Originally posted by JakeTheBank
PIS.Makes as much sense as Wolverine literally tanking Thor's best blows.
Wolverine taking Thor's best blows is par for the course. 😎
Batman knocking out Wonder Woman is fine in sense that it happened in Batman Confidential, a book where Batman's stealth and vanishing ability comes from a magic potion that makes him actually invisible, and he has actual powers derived from worshiping the "Bat totem". It's non canon.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Just wondering, do you agree with srank in that all examples of Wolverine being injured for more than 1 panel by those under cl 20 are PIS?
No, I don't. I take everything Srank says about Logan with a grain (or pillar in some cases) of salt.
Still, I feel that while Wolverine can be injured by Batman, I don't he can be given enough damage to accumulate to the point where he's rendered KO'd or incapacitated for the time needed to score an official KMC style win. I just don't see it, not on average. And you really don't need to go searching for Logan's best non-PIS feats to argue that either.
Gadget spamming is really the only way I feel remotely confident in Batman's chances to win, and even that's suspect given what Logan walks through on the average.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
No, I don't. I take everything Srank says about Logan with a grain (or pillar in some cases) of salt.Still, I feel that while Wolverine can be injured by Batman, I don't he can be given enough damage to accumulate to the point where he's rendered KO'd or incapacitated for the time needed to score an official KMC style win. I just don't see it, not on average. And you really don't need to go searching for Logan's best non-PIS feats to argue that either.
Gadget spamming is really the only way I feel remotely confident in Batman's chances to win, and even that's suspect given what Logan walks through on the average.
Oh, I agree that Wolverine's healing factor is more than enough to keep pace with the damage Batman usually deals.....I just don't agree that tanking cl 100 hits is really his average.
As his fights against cl 100 characters make up only a fraction of his career
Originally posted by Silent Master
Oh, I agree that Wolverine's healing factor is more than enough to keep pace with the damage Batman usually deals.....I just don't agree that tanking cl 100 hits is really his average.As his fights against cl 100 characters make up only a fraction of his career
🙄
Wolverine has fought Hulk alone more than he has fought Punisher, Captain America and Dardevil combined. And Hulk isn't even close to being the only top tier brick Wolverine's thrown down with, not by a long shot.
You're right that his fights with class 100s are only a fraction of his career... but that fraction happens to be 9/10ths.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Srank just told me in PM that showing is invalid, and all of the street levelers combined can unload on Wolverine simultaneously; unless they have a portable supernova to insert inside Wolverine's skull (but not through his eyes, because that can't happen), they'd all collapse and die from exhaustion before Wolverine would get warmed up.I'm sure you've seen, as the comics shown, that Wolverine has absolutely no kind of problem with street levelers, and when he has, it's PIS, because he can't be fighting them and go on to fight Hulk, that's not how comics work. Srank told me that also. He pulled the comic where he gets his throat orgasm from Daredevil's attack, and then the one where he gets his face smashed by Hulk, and said "see, the one with where he fights that street leveler? That's not Wolverine. That's writers hating him. Everytime he has problems against a street leveler, it's all in your mind."
You just have to adapt to how Srank sees the comic medium, as a bunch of characters, and how much kinetic energy they can take, and how fast they can recover from it. Everything else is the medium trying to mislead you from what it truly is - the place where Wolverine is the best at everything every invented, but he only sometimes choses to show you some of them.
😆 Wolverine is now officially Herald Level and his reflexes are on par with CA^^.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
🙄Wolverine has fought Hulk alone more than he has fought Punisher, Captain America and Dardevil combined. And Hulk isn't even close to being the only top tier brick Wolverine's thrown down with, not by a long shot.
You're right that his fights with class 100s are only a fraction of his career... but that fraction happens to be 9/10ths.
If you can prove this claim, I'll ask the mods to delete my account so that I can never post here again.
Originally posted by Silent Master
If you can prove this claim, I'll ask the mods to delete my account so that I can never post here again.
Are you going to be pay me a competitive salary while I spend the next couple of months making an annotated biography of Wolverine recounting all of comics from the last three decades and change?
Jinzin and I already spent a good deal of our time on the Wolverine respect thread so people like you could learn about Wolverine without actually reading his comics... just how much hand holding do you expect here? Go buy some back issues, trades and essentials and start educating yourself. And if you don't want to spent the cash, well you have the internet... just download his comics and read them. I'm always astounded that people would invest time to posting on a comic forum... but not put the time in to read the comics.
Originally posted by Silent Master
If srank is right and Wolverine heals from liquefied organs in less than a second, then all the times his injuries from those below cl 20(which according to srank is the level needed to liquefy organs) last more than a single panel is PIS.Do all the Wolverine fans agree with srank?
When Logan reaquired his HF after the Fatal Relations arc he had a possessed mime slash his body with blades as fast as a man could slash. And his body healed faster than the killer could slash.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
What are Respect threads about, best showings and most impressive feats? Well then yes, CL100 fight should be there. Do the times where he gets hurt by peak humans belong into a respect thread or would one get a warning and flames posting such things. Great logic, as usual ^^.
Have you ever wondered why the same half a dozen examples are used to low ball Wolverine in every thread? Because that's all there is. How many different fights have you seen posted between Wolverine and Hulk/Thing/Namor/Wendigo/ect/ect/ect/ect? The number isn't competitive there is a huge disparity between the the number of occurrences. What do you think? That there are thousands of examples of Wolverine getting rolled by peak humans out in the either just waiting to get scanned? You're wrong.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
What are Respect threads about, best showings and most impressive feats? Well then yes, CL100 fight should be there. Do the times where he gets hurt by peak humans belong into a respect thread or would one get a warning and flames posting such things. Great logic, as usual ^^.
I'm sure that people could probably find at least half a dozens fights just between Wolverine and Hand ninjas, do you really srank could list 54 separate fights between Wolverine and cl 100 characters?
Originally posted by the ninjak
When Logan reaquired his HF after the Fatal Relations arc he had a possessed mime slash his body with blades as fast as a man could slash. And his body healed faster than the killer could slash.
So you agree with srank, that all fights where Wolverine takes longer than a single panel to heal are examples of PIS?
Originally posted by Silent Master
I knew that you were lying, it's what you do.
Pay me a salary for the time I'd be spending to educate you, and I'll do it. I'm not going to waste months of my time reading every issue Wolverine has ever appeared in again to take detailed notes of all his fights, I'm not running a charity tutoring service.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Pay me a salary for the time I'd be spending to educate you, and I'll do it. I'm not going to waste months of my time reading every issue Wolverine has ever appeared in again to take detailed notes of all his fights, I'm not running a charity tutoring service.
You were lying, that's why you're refusing to back up the claim.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm sure that people could probably find at least half a dozens fights just between Wolverine and Hand ninjas, do you really srank could list 54 separate fights between Wolverine and cl 100 characters?
Fodder doesn't count, and there is usually hundreds of them anyway. What's the ninja exchange rate? Does a hundred ninja count as one peak human? 🙄
Originally posted by Silent Master
You were lying, that's why you're refusing to back up the claim.
In order to prove my claim I would need to go through every single Wolverine comic and document all his fights. That would take months and I've already done it once before. How about you prove your claim, by spending all your free time in the next couple of months reading all off Wolverine's appearances and documenting all his fights? That would make us even.