Its all qui-gons fault!!!

probably nothing....presisely my point....

Maybe he would just have caught them on his palm like Vader did in ESB.

no, there were like 20 guys with blasters aimed at him and qui-gon was just like, "no, leave this bitch to us." they could have shot him up. no jedi could deflect that many bolts. quigon and anakin couldnt hold off fire from 4 guns from the destroyers. what makes you think one sith can deflect fire from 20 guns?!

I believe we're back to the whole shock thing.....If they could have corridinated an attack in the few seconds that nobody moved....it might have worked...but I don't think they could b/c they were shocked by the suddeness of Maul's appearance.

not 20, 8

they werent shocked like they were terrified. they just didnt know what to do. qui-gon should have just said blast him, and let that be it

Actually, GL said that the Council and even Yoda make errors in this matter.

Qui-Gon WAS right, but in his own style. Which would have been fine, if he had lived.

As for Maul... oh, COME on! These guys are NEVER surprised! They can sense the near future, remember? If Panaka and co had tried to shoot him, he would have had his blades out in time. Or, for that matter, speeded out the way.

Moral of the story? You need HUGE numbers to kill a Jedi/Sith if you are not a Jedi! Which Panaka and co did not have.

and he has a double lightsabre...

come on! maul sure as hell didnt sense obiwan force reach for his sabre, jump up and cut him in half!!!! he just stood there and took it like a baby.

QGJ and OB1 ran from the two Destroyers. If that were correct Ush, OB1 could have held out against them easily so QGJ could open the door.
I think the reason they didn't open fire was simply because the Jedi said thay'd take care of him. Stopping Maul was not their aim anyway, the viceroy was so they went for that.

sorry, ush, but hes right. i mean, he agrees with me, so how couldnt he be? 🙂

they ran because they couldn't destroy them, because they had shieldgenerators

That's not the point. If Ush is right, OB1 could have held out against them until QGJ managed to open the door. I doubt those destroyers would have continued firing when there was a hole in that door with the danger of hitting the Neimodians.

well, one can shoot at OB1, who can't destroy it, and the other fires at QGJ...

I don;t agree. Obi-Wan is not the blocker than Qui-Gon is- watch Qui-Gon blocking bolts on Obi-Wan's behalf. It is perhaps the one area that Obi-Wan was deficient in in that movie.

Standing against those droidekas was a pointless risk when there was almost certainly more stuff coming. QUi-Gon decided to move.

The issue of whether a fully Jedi can block loads of bolts at once is CLEARLY seen in the film where none of the battle droids come even close to overwhleming Qui-Gon et al. They clearly can. And so could Maul.

In any case, FORGET the specifics of it. GL has introduced a VERRY clear Jedi superiority! Unless you have a full scale army, non-Jedi CANNOT kill Jedi!

don't believe that!

Maul had fear and the droiddekas could eventually winn against the Jedi if they didn't run

Maul had fear??

And there is no evidence that the droidekas would win. As Qui-Gon said, it was a stand-off.

Ush, you are way wrong when you said unless its an army, non-jedi cant kill a jedi. remember this quote from TPM where anakin is questioning qui-gon about his lightsaber? QGJ:"maybe i killed a jedi and took it." AS:"no one can kill a jedi." QGJ:"I wish that were so." Qui-gon is implying that it is POSSIBLE that he could have killed a jedi and took his saber. one person could have killed a jedi and took his saber. while qui-gons statement was broader and more for the purposes of foreshadowing, the fact remains that non-jedi can kill jedi.

and if youve read the scriptment, at one point in AOTC Obiwan battles Jango Fett ONE ON ONE. and at one point, Fett starts firing on Obi-wan with two blasters and its TOO MUCH for obiwan and he has to take cover for a second because there are TOO MANY bolts to deflect. if obiwan did not take cover, jango would kill him.

If qui-gon and obiwan did not run away, the destroyers would have killed them. Maul could NOT deflect that many bolts with just his lightsaber. if you want to get technical about it. lets say you have just six people firing on maul. now say they all fire at exactly the same time. thats six bolts at maul, and he can only deflect two (im being liberal because he has a double-edged saber). Im sorry to burst peoples bubbles, but jedi are NOT THAT powerful. although, as quigon would say, i wish that were so."

Qui-Gon just meant it was not totally impossdibe for Jedi to die. But the fact theyt have acquired an invulnerable reputation suggests something, no?

And Jango Fett is UNIQUE! The best of the best, the elite of the elite. That most amazing thing, a non-jedi who can fight a Jedi. Perhaps the only such person there is.

Qui-Gon said clearly it was a standoff- we have no reason to think anything different. No reason at all to think the droidekas would hasve killed them.

And I repeat- PLENTY of reason to think that Jedi can deflect what appears to be overwhelming laser fire!

And asd for your 'six at once' thing, I keep saying- Jedi can see ther near future! He wouldn't NEED to deflect all six. He would be in a position where most miss and he wouldn't have to deflect that many at all.

Jedi ARE that powerful. GL has made this amazingly clear! Good lord, how much of Qui-Gon fighting did you have to see to see just how amaxzingly powerful they are! But they do have obvious limits- as Qui-Gon said, he couldn't win a war for her...

sorry, I ment Maul had fear with him

stand off my yellow but! He couldn't win, therefor he ran away

Well, that's just you. That's not what we are meant to think. The script says standoff.

Maul had fear with him? Fear makes him strong!

I'm sorry, but unique examples like Jango aside, we have had it made abundantly clear that Jedi are nigh-on invulnerable. Even Boba Fett was easily dealt with by a half-trained Jedi- as wee a small horde of pirates.