The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by Q991,600 pages
Originally posted by dadudemon
But wasn't he technically in poor shape, already?

When he fought Naruto? He seemed fine.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Cause Sasuke is a wimp.

The scroll belongs to said Surrogate Father. That bumps it up to>Shitty Brother.

What they read in the history books. 😛

Lies.

Nope. Shitty brother is > Surrogate Father + Scroll. 131

History books get updated all the time. 😛

Originally posted by Q99
Wouldn't she, y'know, burst out?

And that was just one hit he took, not necessarily one of her biggest either.

Not when he'd swallow her and send her to his dimension.

She aimed to finish it. I'd say it was the biggest she could manage at the time.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

Not when he'd swallow her and send her to his dimension.

Oh, the body transfer jutsu, you mean? Strikes me as risky, he needs to be in his white-snake form to do it.

She aimed to finish it. I'd say it was the biggest she could manage at the time.

Yea, but she was out of practice then. She isn't now.

Originally posted by Q99
Oh, the body transfer jutsu, you mean? Strikes me as risky, he needs to be in his white-snake form to do it.

Yea, but she was out of practice then. She isn't now.

If she's paralyzed, not so risky. And his White Snake form is a tad hard to harm.

She was still more than strong enough to crack the ground with a finger, and lift giant swords. Being out of practice wouldn't be a noticeable handicap, not if her striking power is second nature to her like it is to Sakura.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
If she's paralyzed, not so risky. And his White Snake form is a tad hard to harm.

Paralyzing her is something of a tricky proposition though. Med nin, poison not too great.

When the target isn't paralyzed, it's not that hard to counter. Kabuto tried it multiple times after all.


She was still more than strong enough to crack the ground with a finger, and lift giant swords. Being out of practice wouldn't be a noticeable handicap, not if her striking power is second nature to her like it is to Sakura.

Still, right now she's crunching Susano'os and blowing holes in torsos.

So....are we arguing if Orochimaru=Tsunade now?

Well Tsunade did tank the equivalent of a nuke prior to this war....still don't like her and this chapter still doesn't make up for the 400+ chapters of dissapointment; it's a start at least.

Originally posted by Q99
Paralyzing her is something of a tricky proposition though. Med nin, poison not too great.

When the target isn't paralyzed, it's not that hard to counter. Kabuto tried it multiple times after all.

He paralyzed Sasuke, who was believed to have an immunity to most poisons.
And besides, unless Tsunade has prepared the antidote beforehand, she'll end up getting paralyzed.

Originally posted by Q99
Still, right now she's crunching Susano'os and blowing holes in torsos.

It's always possible Oro is more durable than a Wood clone of Edo Madara.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He paralyzed Sasuke, who was believed to have an immunity to most poisons.
And besides, unless Tsunade has prepared the antidote beforehand, she'll end up getting paralyzed.

Tsu's going to be much better at detecting and avoiding poisons too, though. Tsunade handled Hanzo's poisons, Chiyo's poisons... the big names in poison use.


It's always possible Oro is more durable than a Wood clone of Edo Madara.

Still, giant hole.

Oro'll have to go regen on that one.

Originally posted by Q99
Tsu's going to be much better at detecting and avoiding poisons too, though. Tsunade handled Hanzo's poisons, Chiyo's poisons... the big names in poison use.

And we don't know how she handled that, but from what we've seen from Sakura, she needs prior experience with the poison in order to counteract it.

Originally posted by Q99
Still, giant hole.

Oro'll have to go regen on that one.

Depending on the damage, he could just do what he did when 4 Tailed Naruto cut him in half.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
And we don't know how she handled that, but from what we've seen from Sakura, she needs prior experience with the poison in order to counteract it.

There is the poison-removal jutsu, aside from antidotes.

Also, remember the problem Sasuke had was he didn't notice it. Remember when, say, Sakura was hit by Sasori's gas cloud, so held her breath until she used a tag to blast free.

Tsunade wouldn't miss it like he did.


Depending on the damage, he could just do what he did when 4 Tailed Naruto cut him in half.

Yea, but that takes a lot of chakra. Force him to do that a few times and he's in big trouble.

Originally posted by Q99
There is the poison-removal jutsu, aside from antidotes.

Also, remember the problem Sasuke had was he didn't notice it. Remember when, say, Sakura was hit by Sasori's gas cloud, so held her breath until she used a tag to blast free.

Tsunade wouldn't miss it like he did.

Do you mean this: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Delicate_Illness_Extraction_Technique
That's what is required for the antidote. Prior experience.

The gas cloud was noticeable iirc. Orochimaru's wasn't. Sasuke couldn't even see anything with his Sharingan.

Originally posted by Q99
Yea, but that takes a lot of chakra. Force him to do that a few times and he's in big trouble.

Body shedding takes a lot of chakra. This isn't Body Shedding though.
Tsunade's reservoir of chakra is not unlimited either.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
[B]Do you mean this: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Delicate_Illness_Extraction_Technique
That's what is required for the antidote. Prior experience.

That was done in addition to the antidote, though. The antidote neutralized the remaining poison in Kankuro's body, while Sakura just flat-out removed most of it.

The gas cloud was noticeable iirc. Orochimaru's wasn't. Sasuke couldn't even see anything with his Sharingan.

Tsunade's a medic nin who's worked with every poison under the sun and Orochimaru, though. The idea of blood-turning-into-gas-poison probably isn't new to her, and she'll likely notice it from the air, her higher awareness of symptoms as they start, etc.. Sasuke was standing in it for awhile before he was paralyzed.

I also wonder if the constant-regen jutsu could have a counter effect.


Body shedding takes a lot of chakra. This isn't Body Shedding though.

No, but it's related and still likely isn't cheap.

Tsunade's reservoir of chakra is not unlimited either.

Not unlimited, but with the forehead store, pretty huge.

Also crushing isn't all she's got. Tsunade's got the 'rearranged your body's signals' jutsu, and Katsuyu/her acid.

I don't have time tot read your arguments. But I will anyway.

Originally posted by Q99
That was done in addition to the antidote, though. The antidote neutralized the remaining poison in Kankuro's body, while Sakura just flat-out removed most of it.

She removed it, and then created the antidote after analyzing the removed poison, which is how Tsunade would also do it; if one is paralyzed, how would one remove said poison? Not to mention, attempting to remove a poison in that way presents a huge opening to the opponent. Sakura never attempted to use that method in battle.

Originally posted by Q99
Tsunade's a medic nin who's worked with every poison under the sun and Orochimaru, though. The idea of blood-turning-into-gas-poison probably isn't new to her, and she'll likely notice it from the air, her higher awareness of symptoms as they start, etc.. Sasuke was standing in it for awhile before he was paralyzed.

I also wonder if the constant-regen jutsu could have a counter effect.

She may have worked with Orochimaru, but she would not know about his White Snake form. I don't know if the method would be new to her. I doubt she'd notice it in the air. Noticing the symptoms is her best bet, but the paralysis came suddenly to Sasuke.

Originally posted by Q99
No, but it's related and still likely isn't cheap.

Doesn't seem to be related to body shedding other than it being a snake-related tech.

Originally posted by Q99
Also crushing isn't all she's got. Tsunade's got the 'rearranged your body's signals' jutsu, and Katsuyu/her acid.

Orochimaru has his extending Sword of Kusanagi and Manda. 131

Personally I think of "whoever wins it'll be epic at first, but take forever since they're both so nigh-unkillable. Heck, probably whoever's losing will just be able to retreat."

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Body shedding takes a lot of chakra. This isn't Body Shedding though.
Tsunade's reservoir of chakra is not unlimited either.

Tsunade healed almost an entire village. That takes some crazy chakra. Not to mention she is fighting with blades coming out of her body. She also survived the teleportation tech with her regen. what has Orochimaru shown that compares with her chakra reserves?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
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Orochimaru has his extending Sword of Kusanagi and Manda. 131

He stabbed her in the chest with it already and she still kept fighting. I don't think the sword is gonna do much. Again, she is fighting with blades in her damn abdomen at a high level.

I mean, if you think about it, the difference is- It's that damn forehead seal providing all regen chakra. Tsunade's chakra reserves aren't even really involved, not unless it runs out.

Originally posted by Q99
I mean, if you think about it, the difference is- It's that damn forehead seal providing all regen chakra. Tsunade's chakra reserves aren't even really involved, not unless it runs out.

I thought that was part of her reserves. She just stores it all at that point. Regardless, she has shown to have high chakra reserves where Oro hasn't. That manipulation jutsu with the nervous system would be useful as well. Not something Oro could overcome, but it would still be an advantage Tsunade could capitalize on.

Also, depending on location, how effective is that gas going to be? They were in an enclosed area when he used that on Sasuke weren't they? That stuff should dissipate pretty quick in a wide open area. Plus, she should be on the lookout for that since she should know how he operates.