The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by dadudemon1,600 pages

What is that guitar-like weapon Madara/Tobi uses?

Edit - Hey...Madara has been using that "chain" thing for a long time. Tobi used a similar form against Minato. Seems that MAYBE the person that attacked Minato was actually madara?

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/399/10

There's my proof.

Also, Madara seems to use a sickle.

It's a form of fan called a Gunbai. Historically it was used by samurai commanders to signal troops, but both Madara and Tobi seem to use them as war fans.

Originally posted by dadudemon
What is that guitar-like weapon Madara/Tobi uses?

Edit - Hey...Madara has been using that "chain" thing for a long time. Tobi used a similar form against Minato. Seems that MAYBE the person that attacked Minato was actually madara?

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/399/10

There's my proof.

Also, Madara seems to use a sickle.

Double edit - I will also note that Madara seems to be a weapon summoner, like Tenten. Look at that picture: tons of weapons blocked with Hashirama's wood.

Madara's pretty good, but let's face it, he'll never be Tenten.

Originally posted by dadudemon
What is that guitar-like weapon Madara/Tobi uses?

Edit - Hey...Madara has been using that "chain" thing for a long time. Tobi used a similar form against Minato. Seems that MAYBE the person that attacked Minato was actually madara?

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/399/10

There's my proof.

Also, Madara seems to use a sickle.

Oh...nice

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/009/19

There are two Madara's. mmm

Nah but seriously, the one who attacked the village wasn't Madara. He doesn't fight like Madara(or Madara doesn't fight like him, whichever).

Originally posted by Q99
I'd even put only Naruto and Minato at 6, and A at 5.5.

I could see the logic in that.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
There isn't much that points to Madara needing Hashirama's DNA to unlock Rinnegan. In fact, Tobi is living proof that merely having Hashirama's DNA and a Sharingan will not unlock the Rinnegan. Something else needs to be there. Might be that one needs EMS and Hashirama's DNA to unlock the Rinnegan. Who knows.
Madara did unlock Rinnegan after VotE though. This was before Kabuto enhanced him, which is what I thought you were referring to.
By virtue of Madara's words, Tsunade's medical techniques were vastly inferior to that of Hashirama's. Byakugou/handseal-less regeneration was the only thing she could do that was on Hashirama's level when it came to medical techniques.

Thus I could easily argue that Hashirama himself could use chakra enhanced strength ala Tsunade.

It seems to be a pre-requisite, and yeah I was talking about Madara unlocking it after the VoTE fight.

It's funny how Madara says that Tsunade was nowhere near hashirama's level, but I remember Chiyo stating something about her being the best there is. That and Madara's obvious hard-on for Hash make me think his words could have been spite.

Originally posted by socool8520
It seems to be a pre-requisite, and yeah I was talking about Madara unlocking it after the VoTE fight.

It's funny how Madara says that Tsunade was nowhere near hashirama's level, but I remember Chiyo stating something about her being the best there is. That and Madara's obvious hard-on for Hash make me think his words could have been spite.

Well even if his medical jutsu were as strong or stronger, he wouldn't have the medical knowledge of poisons and such that Tsu did.

Originally posted by Q99

source

Two things about that image that bother me:

1. The logo in the middle.

2. Naruto is using Rasengan in his left hand and Sasuke is using Chidori in his right. It's the opposite(usually). :T

Originally posted by socool8520
It seems to be a pre-requisite, and yeah I was talking about Madara unlocking it after the VoTE fight.

It's funny how Madara says that Tsunade was nowhere near hashirama's level, but I remember Chiyo stating something about her being the best there is. That and Madara's obvious hard-on for Hash make me think his words could have been spite.

It probably is.
Then yeah, he loses the Rinnegan. Still as powerful as his current form though, just nowhere near as versatile.

He's specifically talking about her ninjutsu. Tsunade's got more than just medical ninjutsu. She could easily create anti-dotes to Chiyo's best poisons and she created the Medical Laws.
It can't be taken as spite. Not when Tsunade herself admits her inferiority to her grandfather when it comes to medical ninjutsu.

Spoiler:
yaoi chapter, basically

itachi looking at the statue of susano'o was just kishi's way of showing who the real star of the manga is

Spoiler:
The truth of the coup revealed! I wonder who Shisui used that Koto on.

...

Kishi you son of a *****. Don't you ****ing dare do this you bastard. I made up my mind to hate Itachi. Nothing will change that.

"You really are gentle."

....

****ing damn it Kishi. That made me really sad. 🙁

So will the kage help Naruto against the masked man now when Madara is gone?

I guess the Kages can patch themselves up and head out to Naruto. Afterall it isn't like they have anything else better to do.

Even though it was nigh impossible at this point I had hoped that Madara would by some miracle be able to use Rinne Tensei on himself. This is a really anti-climatic end to such an awesome character.

So...was genjutsuing the entire Uchiha clan not an option?

He may.

I mean the Edo Tensei is taking it's sweet time. Madara might be able to do something. Itachi could still use genjutsu so it should be possible for Madara to do something to save himself...

I can only dream I guess. This was a good chapter though.

Yea, I'm not quite going to count Madara out yet.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka

So...was genjutsuing the entire Uchiha clan not an option?

Shisui tried Koto and that failed. I can't even begin to think of what genjutsu would work on a clan full of sharingan users.

So, no, not an option.

If this chapter had been just a bit worse I'd have hated it. As it stands, it makes Itachi look very sympathetic and, bad as I hate to say it, a smart guy. I can ferry all the contempt I have for him to Danzo.

That part at the end is what sold me. Saying Sasuke could have been able to change the minds of the Uchiha really plays on the fact that the revenge seeking monster Sasuke has become is mostly due to the actions of Itachi. The real Sasuke, the one Itachi sees at least, would have found a way to deal with it all the problems without anyone getting hurt. Itachi lays the blame on himself for not giving that option to Sasuke by hiding the truth. It's a subtle appeal to Sasuke and it seems to be having an effect. Now Sasuke knows the truth and is actually being helped, in more ways than he realizes, by Itachi....finally.

I'm rather curious how the encounter between Shisui and Danzo went.

Probably something like...

Shisui: Danzo-sama! I have found a easy, peaceful way of dealing with the Uchih-

Danzo: GTFO with that peaceful shit. We're going to do things my way damn it. Oh and go kidnap Akamaru. I'm in the mood for a snack.