The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by Astner
So the war was kind of useless, all the needed was Kinkaku and Ginkaku and he would've had enough power activate the vessel, absorb it, and activate Mugen Tsukuyomi?

Well 99% of it would be. If Kabuto didn't side with Tobi during the early stages, he'd have no reason to summon them. But if Tobi was just interested in summoning the Juubi asap, without caring whether it was perfect or not, then yeah, the minute he saw them the minute the war would end.

Kinda makes me wonder why Kabuto summoned them at all. They didn't seem strong or intelligent. They just had stupid weapons. And if Tobi just up and takes them, Kabuto would be trapped in the genjutsu too. So yeah, dumb all around.

Unless of course he knew something we don't. Kabuto seemed rather unconcerned with Tobi acquiring them and he knew about Gyuuki's tentacle. Weird.

he would just close his eyes and ignore the tsukiyomi lol

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If he can do that then Tobi is a ****ing terrible villain. haermm

no, he IS a bad villain, as the secret of his identity seems to be 80+% of what makes him interesting. even his final goal is lackluster

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That doesn't ignore the fact that his secret identity makes him interesting. A lot of villains want to Rule ze World in some shape or form. Execution is the key thing. And I think Tobi is a pretty darn well executed villain. O:

Yeah, Tobi is a pretty goddamn awesome villain imo.

Plus he's funny as **** if you go back and read those chapters where he's goofing off.

It has to be someone we know of though, or else the mask would be useless. I'd go so far as to say that it has to be someone Naruto would recognize.

And judging by Sasuke's current approach I wouldn't be surprised if it really turned out to be him.

Who, Sasuke? **** no, that would be stupid and wouldn't make any sense.

Its gotta be Obito.

Naruto cracks open the mask and the face of the villain is revealed to be Obito.

Naruto: "Wait, who are you?"

It has to be someone we know of though, or else the mask would be useless.

YouTube video

^ I lol'd. Though primarily because that episode was so damn awesome.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
no, he IS a bad villain, as the secret of his identity seems to be 80+% of what makes him interesting. even his final goal is lackluster

He's the best villain Naruto has had. Though his end-game has been fairly disappointing due to Naruto's interference and his true goal is low-key, it does not make him any less interesting. And he likes trolling both the audience and the shinobi.

Also, he has a badass mask & fan.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v57/c537/14.html

Take that statement to be kind of a deadline Tobi is setting for himself. He is going to try for one day to capture Naruto and Bee and if it doesn't work then **** it. The Juubi is coming back within 24 hours, preferably complete but if not then oh well.

This actually suits his character in my honest opinion. At that point he'd not used the Zetsu startegy. That's a lot of wasted time and effort for a villain if it amounts to nothing. He knows the plan will bring Naruto out because the SA will have no alternative. He also knows it's possible that the SA, at the time, might kill Naruto just to stop Tobi. If they did, this would just cause Tobi to get mad and summon the Juubi imperfectly since he isn't going to wait anymore.

But what he wants is for things to go smoothly. Example: He was mad when Nagato betrayed him, even though he says Sasuke is effectively his backup. But instead of being smug like "Haha Naruto, your boyfriend's my backup" he's legit angry about it. That might be the first time he'd been angry on screen.

Now this is just my own interpretation and you can take it or leave it. But Tobi doesn't get smug about back up plans because that means his original plan ultimately failed. Which is why he wants to revive the Juubi in full. The minute Kabuto revived the Kaku brothers, he effectively had his backup. So he's going to wait one more day and see if he can still get the first plan to work. This retroactively makes a lot of Tobi's actions make more sense to me: Why is he running when he finds Naruto? Why does Tobi run when he can just port? It wastes times. Why does Tobi wait until his Zetsu's are finally stopped before stepping into the battlefield to fight Naruto head on? It wastes time and Naruto's chakra. The moon is getting ever closer and Tobi would rather have them captured at nightfall so he won't have to wait any longer. When he makes the declaration that the Juubi will be revived, he has hardly any disadvantages. Kabuto still has quite a few Edo Tensei guys(Itachi still being under his control), Sasuke is where he needs to be, the Zetsu are about to demolish the SA's forces, and Naruto and Bee are currently headed towards a LONG day of fighting. Is it better to just revive the incomplete Juubi now instead of taking the risk? From a strictly logical perspective, of course. But from Tobi's point of view, I don't think he'd want to. I mean now he has lost Kabuto, the Zetsu are gone, and Madara is more than likely still around. Now he has no choice in the matter really.

But hey, that's just my two cents. Alternative theories include "Wanting the full Juubi in case he'd have to fight Madara" or "He's considered the possibility of what would happen if a revived Juubi is incomplete and he's just come to the conclusion that this will probably work." Or it could be a plot hole. Those do happen.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v48/c453/17.html

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Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v48/c453/17.html

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See? He gets mad when his initial plans are screwed with. O:

Still wondering what he plans to do with Sasuke.

Edit: Son of a *****. Kishi has basically ensured I'll be fapping to Hinata later. *******.

To sync him with the statue and use rinne tensei?

Originally posted by BloodRain
To sync him with the statue and use rinne tensei?

What does the first part even mean is what I'm asking.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
See? He gets mad when his initial plans are screwed with. O:

Still wondering what he plans to do with Sasuke.

Edit: Son of a *****. Kishi has basically ensured I'll be fapping to Hinata later. *******.

Don't know if he even plans to use him anymore. Would probably ensure that Sasuke could fight Naruto on an even footing though, as opposed to getting stomped in the first second.

I thought you hated her design?

So how powerful was the Jūbi? Because swallowing oceans doesn't sound right.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Don't know if he even plans to use him anymore. Would probably ensure that Sasuke could fight Naruto on an even footing though, as opposed to getting stomped in the first second.

I thought you hated her design?

Who knows.

I do hate her new design, because it's so...bleh. That and she flipped me off. Her normal design is fine, if a bit weird because of how Hinata dresses.

Her breasts are still good either way is the main reason really. :T

Originally posted by Astner
So how powerful was the Jūbi? Because swallowing oceans doesn't sound right.

He's a big boy and needs to stay hydrated.

Originally posted by Astner
So how powerful was the Jūbi? Because swallowing oceans doesn't sound right.

Powerful enough that Kurama feels like he'd get humiliated in a battle with it.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Who knows.

I do hate her new design, because it's so...bleh. That and she flipped me off. Her normal design is fine, if a bit weird because of how Hinata dresses.

Her breasts are still good either way is the main reason really. :T

He's a big boy and needs to stay hydrated.

I can see it now. Sasuke using the Jūbi's Doujutu, Madara's Susano'o, & Lightning Release Armor. awesome

She flipped us all off.

Yeah. Her new design does show off a lot more skin. Still looks like a prostitute though.

Juubi will probably casually firing off those country level blasts. Which Naruto after absorbing the other beats and taking Sasuke's eyes will counter.. and destroy the moon.

Hinata is hot. That is all.