The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Meteor=Rinnegan technique preformed before.

Wood Clones=Existed and the minute Madara was revealed to have Senju Cells(plot point more than ass pull), then there really wasn't any problem with it.

Plant jutsu=Is a jutsu of Hashirama's more than Madara's and it's not in the realm of impossibility.

Susano'o=Ridiculous incarnate. Fitting, but silly. Then again, the same can be said for the reveal of Itachi's Susano'o(which really was the reveal that propelled the Sharingan into ridiculous levels). Tend to let the trump card slip, but draw the line at more than one.

You can spin it any way you want, he pulled some of that out of his ass. Especially the way you explained plant jutsu. Realm of possibility? Sure, i'll buy that, but since we had never seen it before until Madara, it was pulled from his rear.

Nah, not really.

Originally posted by socool8520
You can spin it any way you want, he pulled some of that out of his ass. Especially the way you explained plant jutsu. Realm of possibility? Sure, i'll buy that, but since we had never seen it before until Madara, it was pulled from his rear.

Yeah, really.

Him having plant techs is a plot point and he is shown to be a far superior ninja to Yamato. You can say Onoki pulled Dust techs out of his rear in this fight for example.

No, because Sakura is indeed a much better character than you give her credit for. Her hesitation to get over her feelings for Sasuke and do what, to everyone else, should be done is no different whatsoever than Naruto not doing the same.

And to dig up a classic argument, she is indeed>Hinata.

Least favorite goes to Tsunade for me. I'm expected to believe that she was on par with Jiraiya and Orochimaru for 400+ chapters for her to be an unimpressive and hypocritical tsundere that sucks up to Naruto whenever he feel's sad.

I'm not suprised people don't like Madara but you can't deny his man-crush makes for some good joke...or is just really creepy. Also his "magic bag of powers" is also funny to watch.

Though his existence is a slap to the face to Part 1's powerlevels.

Originally posted by AuraAngel

Dude, he's the one Naruto character I constantly ***** about.

Uh...A?

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Him having plant techs is a plot point and he is shown to be a far superior ninja to Yamato. You can say Onoki pulled Dust techs out of his rear in this fight for example.

No, because Sakura is indeed a much better character than you give her credit for. Her hesitation to get over her feelings for Sasuke and do what, to everyone else, should be done is no different whatsoever than Naruto not doing the same.

And to dig up a classic argument, she is indeed>Hinata.

It's stupid when Naruto does it as well though. :I

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Least favorite goes to Tsunade for me. I'm expected to believe that she was on par with Jiraiya and Orochimaru for 400+ chapters for her to be an unimpressive and hypocritical tsundere that sucks up to Naruto whenever he feel's sad.

I read that last line in an entirely inappropriate way. :I

Originally posted by Nephthys
It's stupid when Naruto does it as well though. :I

Naruto is one of his favorite characters. Not really directed at you. 😛

And it's Danzo people. God, I thought you guys knew me better. :'(

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Existed and the minute Madara was revealed to have Senju Cells (plot point more than ass pull),

Besides for an ability to be an ass-pull we must have followed the growth of that character for some time and established an understanding for his capabilities.

If an unnamed ninja we've never seen before starts juggle kunai then that's not an ass-pull.

Though I'll agree on that Madara is overpowered and uninteresting.

You don't constantly ***** about Danzo.

You must be confused. Danzō was the best villain in the series.

I was talking to Aura. You ninja'd me, appropriately enough. 🥷

I do too. Mostly cause people liking him irritates me.

Looking through this thread, when it got to the Danzo vs Sasuke fight, people were being really mean to Tobi for whatever reason. It feels like a slap in the face to me. 😛

Originally posted by Astner
You must be confused. Danzō was the best villain in the series.

Clearly not. For all of his plans, he has so few victories of any kind. Compared to others.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Least favorite goes to Tsunade for me. I'm expected to believe that she was on par with Jiraiya and Orochimaru for 400+ chapters for her to be an unimpressive and hypocritical tsundere that sucks up to Naruto whenever he feel's sad.

I think you're overlooking the parts where she medic-fu'd an entire village, and layed the smack down on Madara for a bit, showing herself to be pretty unstoppable in her strength-of-a-hundred mode.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Him having plant techs is a plot point and he is shown to be a far superior ninja to Yamato. You can say Onoki pulled Dust techs out of his rear in this fight for example.

Although Onoki did pull some moves from his ass, we knew from the moment he began to fight on panel that he had dust release. he was going to kill Sasuke with it. Not the same for Madara. I have no illusions that Madara>yamato, however, neither Yamato or Hash have ever used this tech iirc, so Madara indeed pulled it out of his ass.

No, because Sakura is indeed a much better character than you give her credit for. Her hesitation to get over her feelings for Sasuke and do what, to everyone else, should be done is no different whatsoever than Naruto not doing the same.

And to dig up a classic argument, she is indeed>Hinata.

You're right, I won't give her credit for being mental. And there is a difference betwwen the Naruto/Sasuke relationship as opposed to the Sakura/Sasuke relationship. Sasuke actually liked naruto and considered him a friend. He never reflected any of the same feelings Saskura felt. Her feelings are completely one sided. On top of that main character flaw, she also used Naruto several times to get back the person who doesn't lover her, and at the same time hurt Naruto who does care for her.

I also disagree that Sakura>Hinata. Hinata doesn't use her friend to get back a loved one. She cares for other people over her own self, and is always willing to aid any team she works with.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Naruto is one of his favorite characters. Not really directed at you. 😛

He sure is.

Originally posted by AuraAngel

And it's Danzo people. God, I thought you guys knew me better. :'(

Danzo really? I would have guessed Minato or Itachi. I could have sworn I've seen you post so much more about how hax those two are.

Originally posted by Q99
I think you're overlooking the parts where she medic-fu'd an entire village, and layed the smack down on Madara for a bit, showing herself to be pretty unstoppable in her strength-of-a-hundred mode.

Not overlooking..I'm ignoring in light of my rant 🙂. Besides prior to the Madara fight, that was the most impressive thing she's ever done. As impressive as it is, it was still pretty sad.

I'd hate Kurenai for similar reasons compared to the rest of the jonin but since Kishi already hates her, I can't bear myself to do it.

Originally posted by socool8520
Although Onoki did pull some moves from his ass, we knew from the moment he began to fight on panel that he had dust release. he was going to kill Sasuke with it. Not the same for Madara. I have no illusions that Madara>yamato, however, neither Yamato or Hash have ever used this tech iirc, so Madara indeed pulled it out of his ass.

You seem to be confusing a reveal with an asspull. This is Madara's first fight. It's...kinda hard to make the argument that he has any asspulls.

Originally posted by socool8520
You're right, I won't give her credit for being mental. And there is a difference betwwen the Naruto/Sasuke relationship as opposed to the Sakura/Sasuke relationship. Sasuke actually liked naruto and considered him a friend. He never reflected any of the same feelings Saskura felt. Her feelings are completely one sided. On top of that main character flaw, she also used Naruto several times to get back the person who doesn't lover her, and at the same time hurt Naruto who does care for her.

Ah, here's the problem. Quite simply, you're wrong. I can show you scenes of Sasuke treating Sakura nicely and considering her as important to him as Naruto if I must. And you're holding a character flaw(an intentional one that Sakura recognizes and tries to deal with, in a good way and later a bad one).

Originally posted by socool8520
I also disagree that Sakura>Hinata. Hinata doesn't use her friend to get back a loved one. She cares for other people over her own self, and is always willing to aid any team she works with.

Ahahahahahahaha

See Chiyo fight where Sakura sacrifices herself for a stranger.

Sakura is a better character by virtue of having a character that isn't completely tied to her love interest/emo past.

WTF people!? Minato is one of my favorite characters! Why do you keep guessing him!? D:

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Clearly not. For all of his plans, he has so few victories of any kind. Compared to others.

Originally posted by Astner
It's character that makes a good villain, not how powerful they are.

Yep. Case in point: Zabuza. Loses everything but people still like him.

Difference between him and Danzo is simple. One has water and a sword, the other can control minds.

Danzo had no excuse for his pitiful track record because he literally had access to the strongest genjutsu in the show. Several Konoha destroying super ninja were created because of Danzo's stupidity.

Yes, Danzo is one of the worst ninja in Naruto despite being the one guy who most tries to act like a ninja.

Danzō was a grizzly veteran who operated primarily undercover, and whom controlled the entire stealth force of Konoha.

Zabuza was a bounty hunter with a bit of a reputation, and that's pretty much it.