Originally posted by BloodRain
The greatest threat is down and Naruto's going off the fight a guy weaker than himself?
Madara's not weaker than Naruto... He has Rinnegan and high-end genjutsu to fck Naruto over. I don't think Naruto can even scratch Perfect Susano'o with a single ability.
Plus, Madara still has his trump card, whatever that is.
Madara's genjutsu showings are really underwhelming lol.
Is he stronger than Naruto? Probably. But it is because of Final Susano'o and his Mokuton techniques.
That said Obito is down which sucks cause I liked the design of his Bijuu mode had going on. And I'm not sure what Madara could pull out of his ass to stop everyone coming after him.
Originally posted by AuraAngelMaybe Kishimoto wrote himself into a corner and needs the month and a half break to think up of something that isn't completely ridiculous? lol
Madara's genjutsu showings are really underwhelming lol.Is he stronger than Naruto? Probably. But it is because of Final Susano'o and his Mokuton techniques.
That said Obito is down which sucks cause I liked the design of his Bijuu mode had going on. And I'm not sure what Madara could pull out of his ass to stop everyone coming after him.
Originally posted by danteiscool
hmm, still it's a bit longer than some of the breaks I recall Kishi taking. at any rate though, he left us with a decent chapter. it was about time Minato and Kakashi had a good talking to with Obito while everyone else tried to take down Madara.
Prior to this one, the longest break I recall him taking was 2-3 weeks I think. This is double that.
Originally posted by BloodRain
With Kurama's help genjutsu loses its hype.Rinnegan is nothing new to Naruto, having great experience against it in three battles.
Eh, guess its Susano'o and the crazy trees, but only with a combination of the two. One or the other and Naruto would walk through him.. imo.
Great experience in 3 battles? More like 2.
Either way, Madara has only shown the Preta Path & Outer Path abilities, so it's not like he makes much use of the Rinnegan's versatility. Given his other abilities and Edo Tensei body, he doesn't really need to.
That said, Preta Path means Naruto's Bijuu Bombs are useless.
Don't forget Meteorites.
Originally posted by AuraAngelThat said Obito is down which sucks cause I liked the design of his Bijuu mode had going on. And I'm not sure what Madara could pull out of his ass to stop everyone coming after him.
You liked the design of the Shinju, a gigantic phallus? 313
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix2.5. Pain's taught him nearly everything needed. Nagato demonstrated a prime individual with all 6 paths. The Obito/Jinchuuriki part is a good lil refresher, should still count.
Great experience in 3 battles? More like 2.Either way, Madara has only shown the Preta Path & Outer Path abilities, so it's not like he makes much use of the Rinnegan's versatility. Given his other abilities and Edo Tensei body, he doesn't really need to.
That said, Preta Path means Naruto's Bijuu Bombs are useless.Don't forget Meteorites.
Could Preta defend from a Bijuu-Sage attack? Doubt he'd throw another meteor if he knows Naruto could blow it up.
I don't think he's worried about planning, everything's got to be set in stone by now, but probably needs a rest/recharge after all that battle before the next stuff.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Madara's not weaker than Naruto... He has Rinnegan and high-end genjutsu to fck Naruto over. I don't think Naruto can even scratch Perfect Susano'o with a single ability.Plus, Madara still has his trump card, whatever that is.
Naruto's biju ball has shown more destructive power than Perfect Susanoo.
Originally posted by BloodRain
2.5. Pain's taught him nearly everything needed. Nagato demonstrated a prime individual with all 6 paths. The Obito/Jinchuuriki part is a good lil refresher, should still count.Could Preta defend from a Bijuu-Sage attack? Doubt he'd throw another meteor if he knows Naruto could blow it up.
Yep, Nagato demonstrated an immobile version that would have beaten Naruto. 313
The Obito/Jinchuurikii fight doesn't really count. None of them used Path abilities, with the exception of shared vision, something Madara doesn't use. uhuh
Good thing he can throw at least 2 then. 131
Originally posted by Q99
Naruto's biju ball has shown more destructive power than Perfect Susanoo.
Yeah, but Kurama's Bijuu-damas didn't really do anything to Madara's Perfect Susano'o. Conversely, Perfect Susano'o's damage output is below what Kurama tanked.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
The main reason I say Naruto is still weaker than Madara is because they've already had a few small exchanges. Neither had a real edge but Naruto also had backup while Madara was basically fighting alone(he and Obito weren't working in tandem).
And Madara has Hashirama's Mokuton hax which can stop Naruto's Bijuu Mode.