The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by King Kandy
I never quite bought that Madara was completely in control, him and Pein seemed to have conflicting interests. Now it seems Pein actually is the true leader and Madara is more an associate.

Meanwhile, I think having Nagato be this separate puppet master guy is lame. I mean, why not just let him be Pein? The six bodies was interesting enough, he could have just been the six bodies. And on top of that, Kishi made Nagato so stupid. No. The ninja messiah should not be a sick guy in an exo-suit.

looks like madara did the same thing to nagato as he's doing right now to sasuke, convincing them they have to take revenge on their mutual enemy after they lose almost all their loved ones.

Also how many times is Kishi going to use this "villains loses due to sickness" thing? Happened with Itachi, Orochimaru, Kimimaro, now it seems it will happen to Nagato.

Well there will be some difference. Oro was betrayed, Itachi let himself die, and if Nagato is found and beaten it's because he just went into the villain monologue.

unless there's some ultra conspiracy going on and the sickness has something to do with... something

except Oro, his body was wearing out

Originally posted by Kento
Well there will be some difference. Oro was betrayed, Itachi let himself die, and if Nagato is found and beaten it's because he just went into the villain monologue.

I doubt Nagato's condition really has much to do with Pein's strength though. He's probably used one to many moves that shorten his life.. Sure Nagato being weak is a glaring weakness but he's just a puppet master for the most part except never on the battlefield, and there isn't anything to prove that Pein is weaker than he could be.... yet. Well besides him using up a lot of chakra to destroy Konoha but everybody gets weaker when they use up all their chakra. Kakashi probably could've survived a bit more if that lightning clone didn't take up half his chakra.

we still don't know if Kakashi is even dead or not

we know he's on the brink of death and is able to converse with dead people, maybe his dad will tell him to go back and live and protect his new friends... or he really will just be killed off

He still didn't survive to well against Pein if he's alive or not. And most of his problems came after he used up half his chakra in one move. The suck thing about not being Naruto in the Narutoverse is..you actually have to conserve your chakra.

Originally posted by Kento
Everybody has a better reason to be emo than Sasuke.

But yea its kinda easy to understand Peins motives. A warped sense of what he thinks is right. Unlike the other villains. Really why are Madara and Oro evil? Do they even have any kind of reason or is it just what they are?

Orochimaru's parents died and now he wants to be an immortal God or something stupid like that.

But yeah Pain has understandable motives at least.

And why are people assuming Pain is telling the truth about forming Akatsuki?

Originally posted by Kento
He still didn't survive to well against Pein if he's alive or not. And most of his problems came after he used up half his chakra in one move. The suck thing about not being Naruto in the Narutoverse is..you actually have to conserve your chakra.

I know why the hell doe he even have a technique like that all it is is a lightning clone if it takes that much chakra why use it. He was better off using the raikiri or mangekyou

Originally posted by yungz22
I know why the hell doe he even have a technique like that all it is is a lightning clone if it takes that much chakra why use it. He was better off using the raikiri or mangekyou

Though yea not really sure why he used such a chakra consuming technique when they have normal replacement jutsu.

the lightning clone, when hit, dissipates and turns into lightning, this should stun the opponent

Originally posted by stickman618
the lightning clone, when hit, dissipates and turns into lightning, this should stun the opponent

Originally posted by The Red
Yeah, the only problem with that though was there was more than 'one' opponent he was facing. Using that technique was completely hopeless. It was nothing, but a chakra waste. He should have just fought him normally and conserved chakra until help arrived.

No help at the time. They were occupied with shizer, too.

He used the lightening clone because he is an excellent tactician...of the genius kind. He knew that Jiraiya, one of the legendary Sanin and one of the strongest Characters in all of Naruto (top 3 or 4), lost to Pain. He made the best aboslute decision possible with what little information he had. Using the lightening clone was the perfect way to gage the enemy while avoiding death. I really can't think of a better way for Kakashi to have executed his adventure with Pain. What he did was the best course of action.

Now, had he had more chakra to spare, things may have gone a tad better for him.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No help at the time. They were occupied with shizer, too.

He used the lightening clone because he is an excellent tactician...of the genius kind. He knew that Jiraiya, one of the legendary Sanin and one of the strongest Characters in all of Naruto (top 3 or 4), lost to Pain. He made the best aboslute decision possible with what little information he had. Using the lightening clone was the perfect way to gage the enemy while avoiding death. I really can't think of a better way for Kakashi to have executed his adventure with Pain. What he did was the best course of action.

Now, had he had more chakra to spare, things may have gone a tad better for him.

Originally posted by The Red
Why not use the sharingun gengutsu on him?

Can he even do that? Has he ever done that?

He's hypnotized Zabuza. And the fact the Sharingan is primarily a genjutsu thing. I think he could it's just not his style.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Can he even do that? Has he ever done that?

Originally posted by Kento
He's hypnotized Zabuza. And the fact the Sharingan is primarily a genjutsu thing. I think he could it's just not his style.

That's right. It's been years. I mean...YEEEEAAARS! lol

Originally posted by The Red
Yeah. As said before, he used it on Zabuza to make it appear that he was mocking every hand jutsu formation. He can also make entire body or parts of bodies disappear into a different dimension.

Yeah, those formidable techniques. However, would you feel out the environment first, or would you go straight in with you eye thing without knowing the enemy's abilities? How would a ninja do it? (rhetorical)

This is why he sent the clone in, first.