Originally posted by dadudemonTrue, but hardly any of that hit close to home with Naruto. Naruto didn't have any close connections with those people Oro hurt.
Are you forgetting about the mutilation and experiments Oro ran for his own benefit?Are you forgetting about the "imprisonment" of many and evil manipulation of the masses for Oro's gain?
Pain did what he did because of the warped idea that he was protecting his people and working towards preventing death and destruction for all.
Originally posted by The Red
True, but hardly any of that hit close to home with Naruto. Naruto didn't have any close connections with those people Oro hurt.
Cept Sasuke, Jariaya, 3rd Hokage, Sakura, and Tsunade. 313
And probably many others that I am forgetting.
But, yes, Oro didn't kill very many people Naruto knew.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Wow.You're dead sexy. naughty
I was agreeing with him until I read your post. What would we do without you?
Don't forget that Naruto mastered Sage mode. He should be stronger, faster, and have more chakra and control over the sage mode chakra(no, not chakra control, per se, but the ability to use sage chakra in sage mode should be much easier for Naruto due to his master Sage Mode*.). It should be no surprise that Naruto made them look easier to deal with.
Think of it this way:
Jiraiya was stuck with two tomoes, and Naruto earned all three.
Does that make more sense if I put it that way?
*For those of you who think that Naruto did not master sage mode because he didn't learn all the sage techniques, it's mere word semantics. Sage mode, or the mode that one fully balances and masters all three chakras and mixes and uses them perfectly is called sage mode. A perfect mixture results in the user exhibiting no alterations to their body, except for the pupils and the coloring around the eyes. For those of you who still say he didn't master sage mode because he didn't learn all the sage mode techniques, you're wrong. Naruto DID master sage mode. He just didn't master all the techniques that can be used once he gets there. HA!
Even so, amen.
When did I say he hasn't mastered it? If he hadn't mastered it, chances are, he'd be a toad right now.
Jiraiya should be more proficient with it though, given that he's had years more to master and hone it.
As far as sadism goes, Orochimaru is more sadistic than Nagato.
When it comes to damage against Konoha/Naruto, Nagato's got the lead.
My two cents on who's more evil 😛 (I think that's what you guys are talking about)
Isn't Nagato more anti-heroic than villainous though >.>?
Originally posted by The RedIf we're talking about who hurt Naruto more sure Nagato is the top but it's not because he's the most evil. That spot belongs to Oro by far. Under Oro I'd say it's somewhere between Sasori, Hidan, Kakuzu, and Gaara before he met Naruto cause Madara's evil is more revenge driven less just pleasure. Nagato's evil is just a warped sense of righteousness. At least from all he's been saying since his fight with Jiraiya.
True, but hardly any of that hit close to home with Naruto. Naruto didn't have any close connections with those people Oro hurt.
http://i39.tinypic.com/29dimma.jpg
Spoiler:
Hell yeah Sage Mode + Kyuubi mix!
Originally posted by stickman618
i don't mean to brag or anything but i did predict that would happen 😎
Compare astrologers that were right in some instance, to astronomers that were wrong in another instance.
Originally posted by Pyron_ExpressWow creepy looking eye.
http://i39.tinypic.com/29dimma.jpgSpoiler:
Hell yeah Sage Mode + Kyuubi mix!
Though if he's kyuubing out..Nagato isn't getting saved me thinks.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
When did I say he hasn't mastered it? If he hadn't mastered it, chances are, he'd be a toad right now.
I never said or implied that you said it. Someone did a while back, in this thread.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Jiraiya should be more proficient with it though, given that he's had years more to master and hone it.
I disagree on a factual level. Naruto took sage chakra collection to a whole new level with his clones, eliminating the toads from having to bond with Naruto. Not to mention Naruto "completed" sage mode, unlike Jiraiya, so Naruto is not only more profficient, he is also better at it than that toads because he though of a new way to collect it, without having to bond to someone.
Originally posted by leonheartmmWhy would you rank Kyuubi above Madara? Considering all of Kyuubi's evil acts were CAUSED by Madara.
kyuubi
itachi - pre reveal of bein controlled/under orders etc
urochimaru
madara
pain
kabuto
gaara- pre goodness
kisame
And placing Itachi on the list at all is stupid...It was always an act.
