Originally posted by ThunderGodEneruactually if i recal it was just speculation that madara was controlling kyuubi, that he could have controlled him but he said that it was just coincidence that the kyuubi was there, but i might be wrong
Why would you rank Kyuubi above Madara? Considering all of Kyuubi's evil acts were CAUSED by Madara.And placing Itachi on the list at all is stupid...It was always an act.
Originally posted by niduinYondy already confirmed that Madara has been lying about summoning Kyuubi.
actually if i recal it was just speculation that madara was controlling kyuubi, that he could have controlled him but he said that it was just coincidence that the kyuubi was there, but i might be wrong
Hmm I always pictured Nagato's parents being brutally murdered by a ninja like Zabuza or Kisame or something. The ones that like to kill or don't care..Not killed in self-defense over a mistake. I do wonder what Naruto's answer will be though. And if Yahiko's death was the second pain. Kinda funny though with Nagato all saying to Naruto it's okay for you to want revenge your not god.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Though you may be right, I dunno, I just feel that since Jiraiya has had a lot more time with it, he may be better, recall that I said 'should'.
well Jiraiya does know more sage jutsus like; sage shadow, needle hair, and toad flame, i'm sure there's alot more that we just haven't seen him use throughout the series
Naruto only got to learn the basics, and he is better at getting to sage mode because there are no transformations other than his eyes, Jiraiya go t webbed hands and feet if i'm not mistaken
Originally posted by King Kandy
Stronger than Madara i understand since otherwise he wouldn't have needed the Kyuubi, but the Sage could create rock-seals the size of the moon apparently, and Nagato could have restrained 8-tails which is almost the full Kyuubi with a weaker one. As for Shinigami that's just nonsense, it's a God and it sealed Kyuubi in the first place so there's no way to would be weaker.
and i think the kyuubi cud destroy the so called moon. the 8 tails isnt the nine tails, there is an exponential gain of power with each tail. furthermore, you are forgetting one VERY major thing. the kyuubi inside naruto is only the YANG chakra of the kyuubi, NO1 knows what happened to YIN chakra and thats half the power right there. and seeing as each new power level is exponential.....................
i dunno about rikoudu, per se. but i think the summoning of the kyuubi probably had a purpose greater than just the evil of the world giving birth to it. possibly, it was a bid by madara to gain a bijuu that cudnt even be controlled by the first hokage, or maybe it was his bid to surpass rikoudu/nagato/rinnegan in power. i think in all likeness he DID summon it but it turned out that even his sharingan cudn control the kyuubi and it went on a rampage. pehaps the rreason he created akatsuki was to use nagato's statue which wud use the conbined might of EVERY other bijuu on the planet to create a seal that cud permanently control the kyuubi{since event he seal of the death god himself is weakening against it, an UNHEARD of feat, and the statue wud crumble if the kyuubi wasnt inserted last} and nagato thinks he is creating a weapon of mass destruction while actually, madara prophecises that soon, the "machine" wud be ready and he wud gain back HIS power {most likely, the kyuubi with PERFECT control over it, sumthing he was unable to do with just his magekyo and chakra} that he LOST. and sasuke is sumhow the sacrifice/watever with his own magekyo in this scenario. remember, that the PURPOSE of akatsuki is to capture the kyuubi. and that wud also make the shiki fuukin the strongest shown jutsu in the narutoverse , other than MAYBE sum secret one rikoudo might have posessed. interesting also is the name "akatsuki" and its connection to the MOON{built by rikoudo}
AND, im also betting that urochimaru knew most of this or madara's plot, moreso than itachi, and had his own thoughts on perfection and suffering and thats why he wanted the sharingan and not the kyuubi right away, and thats why kabuto still has him inside him, i see him playing a possibly major part in the future and being defeated by madar/kyuubi, or actually using madara as a pawn to gain greater power.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and i think the kyuubi cud destroy the so called moon. the 8 tails isnt the nine tails, there is an exponential gain of power with each tail. furthermore, you are forgetting one VERY major thing. the kyuubi inside naruto is only the YANG chakra of the kyuubi, NO1 knows what happened to YIN chakra and thats half the power right there. and seeing as each new power level is exponential.....................i dunno about rikoudu, per se. but i think the summoning of the kyuubi probably had a purpose greater than just the evil of the world giving birth to it. possibly, it was a bid by madara to gain a bijuu that cudnt even be controlled by the first hokage, or maybe it was his bid to surpass rikoudu/nagato/rinnegan in power. i think in all likeness he DID summon it but it turned out that even his sharingan cudn control the kyuubi and it went on a rampage. pehaps the rreason he created akatsuki was to use nagato's statue which wud use the conbined might of EVERY other bijuu on the planet to create a seal that cud permanently control the kyuubi{since event he seal of the death god himself is weakening against it, an UNHEARD of feat, and the statue wud crumble if the kyuubi wasnt inserted last} and nagato thinks he is creating a weapon of mass destruction while actually, madara prophecises that soon, the "machine" wud be ready and he wud gain back HIS power {most likely, the kyuubi with PERFECT control over it, sumthing he was unable to do with just his magekyo and chakra} that he LOST. and sasuke is sumhow the sacrifice/watever with his own magekyo in this scenario. remember, that the PURPOSE of akatsuki is to capture the kyuubi. and that wud also make the shiki fuukin the strongest shown jutsu in the narutoverse , other than MAYBE sum secret one rikoudo might have posessed. interesting also is the name "akatsuki" and its connection to the MOON{built by rikoudo}
Okay you think Kyuubi can destroy the moon so he's a near planet-buster, i'm not even listening to what you have to say anymore. Raising tsunamis and crushing mountains<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<anything moon destroying level.