The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by WO Polaski1,600 pages

we're talking about in the show not in a vs. scenario.

His point is that in a fair fight with no plot restraints or devices is that Pain would defeat Naruto.

That is a vs. scenario.

and that point doesnt matter because whats happening in the manga isnt like that. king kandy is saying that pein could still defeat naruto even after his bodies were destroyed and even fi naruto is 8 tails. thats not true. theres no evidence pointing to that fact. by the time naruto showed up at the paper tower pein was out of abilities that could stop him.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
and that point doesnt matter because whats happening in the manga isnt like that. king kandy is saying that pein could still defeat naruto even after his bodies were destroyed and even fi naruto is 8 tails. thats not true. theres no evidence pointing to that fact. by the time naruto showed up at the paper tower pein was out of abilities that could stop him.
Oh. Well King Kandy is full of shit then.

Also, are people really satisfied with how the manga has been the past two chapters? 😬

Just flashback chapters. Nothing too special. Next few chapters should be good, if they start to focus more on already developed characters.

I want to see some more of the other students.

No I'm talking about the Nagato shit that just happened.

its stupid but you cant expect much from kishimoto. naruto was built on stupid writing.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
its stupid but you cant expect much from kishimoto. naruto was built on stupid writing.
True dat

The reviving thing is about the only real problem. But even then did anybody really expect Kakashi to be or stay dead after Chiyo proved somebody can bring a person back? The rest were just fodder characters anyway even if they were revived.

Sasuke's still gonna find a huge crater

but at least there are people left to kill

Maybe we will get another fight where Sasuke gets beaten within an inch of his life. And maybe Team Hawk will get their own fights against Team 8...Or I can at least hope for Shino to get his own battle for once.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
and that point doesnt matter because whats happening in the manga isnt like that. king kandy is saying that pein could still defeat naruto even after his bodies were destroyed and even fi naruto is 8 tails. thats not true. theres no evidence pointing to that fact. by the time naruto showed up at the paper tower pein was out of abilities that could stop him.

Did I say a thing about him stopping eight-tails? No, that was a different discussion. It was shown numerous times that Naruto can't beat all six paths without a plot device. So Nagato could just revive them and Naruto would lose again, if the plot wasn't aiding him.

Also on the chibaku issue, you're drawing a bad comparison by saying Pein thinking it would hold Naruto shows he isn't credible. He used Chibaku to contain six tails, and it did that completely. Six tails couldn't escape. However, that size of Chibaku wasn't designed to hold EIGHT-tails, so it escaped. Pein never said his chibaku could hold eight tails, only that it would stop Naruto (who was in six tails). So he was right about that, and was right when he claimed a bigger one could stop eight-tails. After all, he said the size he used on six was NOTHING compared to the true potential of the technique. If it could create the moon how exactly could it fail to stop eight-tails?

Nagato can't revive his bodies, as he needs them dead to comfortably control them. Plus didn't Naruto destroy the rods which Nagato needs, I thought that was how he was able to 'kill' them. Plus it would take them too long to get to him and Naruto would already be pounding on Nagato when they did.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Nagato can't revive his bodies, as he needs them dead to comfortably control them. Plus didn't Naruto destroy the rods which Nagato needs, I thought that was how he was able to 'kill' them. Plus it would take them too long to get to him and Naruto would already be pounding on Nagato when they did.

He can't revive his bodies? WTF? The reviving Pein did, and Nagato can use his powers. So yeah they can be revived. While the Peins came over Konan could have protected Nagato.

He needs the black rods to control them. Which the strongest body doesn't have them in. Also..Konan protect anybody? She's a girl in Kishimoto's manga. What would she do?

Well she's an S-rank so she should have some degree of power. Really the smartest thing for Nagato to do would to have launched revival technique the instant deva pein fell to bring him back before Naruto could do anything... well he didn't for plot reasons of course but in a unbiased fight that would be the best tactic.

So was all the rest of the Akatsuki. Shikamaru beat one, Sasuke beat one, Gaara almost beat one had he not been tricked, Sakura did good against one, Kakashi was able to hold his own against one even when he was loosing, Asuma would've beaten one had he not been immortal.

His jutsu is reviving, Yahiko's body is dead. Who is to say it would work? Not to mention he had to be close to use that one bodies ability to bring bodies back.

Originally posted by Kento
So was all the rest of the Akatsuki. Shikamaru beat one, Sasuke beat one, Gaara almost beat one had he not been tricked, Sakura did good against one, Kakashi was able to hold his own against one even when he was loosing, Asuma would've beaten one had he not been immortal.

His jutsu is reviving, Yahiko's body is dead. Who is to say it would work? Not to mention he had to be close to use that one bodies ability to bring bodies back.

Shikamaru is the greatest tactical genius in the show and had prep and full knowledge on Hidan's abilities, Sasuke is easily S class at that point, Gaara also is S Rank(Hell he was Jonin rank as a Genin), Sakura had help from an S Rank ninja and Sasori only lost so he could be hugged by his puppet parents(lol ghey), Kakashi was near S rank pre-Timeskip and is an obvious candidate for Hokage according to Tsunade and Jiraiya and as you said was still losing, and Asuma is among the strongest of Konoha's Jonin, and that is debateable, he had great difficulty avoiding Hidan's attacks, besides, ever consider his immortality is the reason he is S rank?

Yeah not to mention Nagato was piss-low on chakra and stuffz.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Shikamaru is the greatest tactical genius in the show and had prep and full knowledge on Hidan's abilities, Sasuke is easily S class at that point, Gaara also is S Rank(Hell he was Jonin rank as a Genin), Sakura had help from an S Rank ninja and Sasori only lost so he could be hugged by his puppet parents(lol ghey), Kakashi was near S rank pre-Timeskip and is an obvious candidate for Hokage according to Tsunade and Jiraiya and as you said was still losing, and Asuma is among the strongest of Konoha's Jonin, and that is debateable, he had great difficulty avoiding Hidan's attacks, besides, ever consider his immortality is the reason he is S rank?

Yeah not to mention Nagato was piss-low on chakra and stuffz.

Yea, and all of them are still weaker than current Naruto. Konan being S-class doesn't mean she can do anything though I guess on the other hand it doesn't mean she can't do anything. She doesn't have any feats except suffocating some cannon-fodder and running from the Aburame Clan. Though it's Naruto's manga which helps him out a bit.

Help these out a bit!

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