The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by NemeBro1,600 pages

Originally posted by dadudemon
It also gives one eternal life. 😐

Did you know that? Or have you thought that Madara's chakra levels kept him alive for this long?

Because you have definately proved that.

Considering that is what Madara said, I am inclined to believe so. 🙂

I am not saying you are wrong, but to my recollection, Madara has NEVER stated his EMS is what granted him eternal life.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v43/c398/18.html

"I was born with the greatest, strongest chakra they have ever seen. My stubborn refusal to die could be considered proof of that."

That is the only quote from him where he gives any sort of explanation for his apparent immortality, I have yet to see a quote stating it was due to the EMS.

I don't know if his immortality is EMS, but I think that chakra comment may actually be referring to his survival in the ninja wars during numerous battles, and not his actual immortality power.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v42/c386/11.html

This could be taken to mean EMS = Immortality. It doesn't specifically say it but Itachi does talk about him being the only one able to achieve true immortality, and he's in the middle of talking about taking Sasuke's eyes, and about the final secret of the sharingan.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Because you have definately proved that.

Considering that is what Madara said, I am inclined to believe so. 🙂

I am not saying you are wrong, but to my recollection, Madara has NEVER stated his EMS is what granted him eternal life.

F*ck that. I am not going to look that up for you. That's so fundemental to Naruto, I'm shocked you didn't know about it.

Madara has immortality because he traded MS with his younger brother. His MS is also EMS, because of the same. That's a rather basic Naruto concept. 😐

Originally posted by dadudemon
F*ck that. I am not going to look that up for you. That's so fundemental to Naruto, I'm shocked you didn't know about it.

Madara has immortality because he traded MS with his younger brother. His MS is also EMS, because of the same. That's a rather basic Naruto concept. 😐

This is never outright said....It's just one of those assumed things for the most part. Like Madara's whole teleporting thing being MS technique.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v42/c386/13.html

that pretty much debunks the eye leading to immortality.

hes specifically referring to using the eye to make his powers immortal there... meaning he can use the powers all day all night without the side effects...

Originally posted by dadudemon
F*ck that. I am not going to look that up for you. That's so fundemental to Naruto, I'm shocked you didn't know about it.

Madara has immortality because he traded MS with his younger brother. His MS is also EMS, because of the same. That's a rather basic Naruto concept. 😐

I knew that was the common ASSUMPTION.

But based on EVIDENCE, it has never been stated that the EMS granted Madara immortality, only that the MS would not drain his life.

Could the EMS be what granted him immortality? Sure.

Based on evidence, should we assume it was what did so? No way.

The most concrete evidence we have is Madara referencing his chakra, no the EMS.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v42/c386/13.html

that pretty much debunks the eye leading to immortality.

hes specifically referring to using the eye to make his powers immortal there... meaning he can use the powers all day all night without the side effects...

That doesn't do that at all. It doesn't even come close. Rather, what it does is establish Itachi telling his brother that the Uchiha brothers come after each other for the eyes, yet, we don't read of brothers coming after each other other than Madara after his younger brother. At that, Madara says his brother gave them to him, willingly.

What you have there could be simply manipulation from Itachi to Sasuke. Does anyone else in the whole series mention that? No. Could it have been a lie from Itachi to get Sasuke to prove he is ready to take over for Itachi? Sure. In fact, that seems much more plausible than saying brothers in the Uchiha clan come after each other for each other's eyes. That is rather unlikely as we only have 1 example of that: Madara.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I knew that was the common ASSUMPTION.

But based on EVIDENCE, it has never been stated that the EMS granted Madara immortality, only that the MS would not drain his life.

Could the EMS be what granted him immortality? Sure.

Based on evidence, should we assume it was what did so? No way.

The most concrete evidence we have is Madara referencing his chakra, no the EMS.

Then I guess I got that from the anime. 😐

There's no way I'm going to read all of Naruto to try and figure out where I got that idea from. I "knew" about it well before Itachi said he was going to take Sasuke's eyes to become immortal.

Originally posted by dadudemon
There's no way I'm going to read all of Naruto to try and figure out where I got that idea from. I "knew" about it well before Itachi said he was going to take Sasuke's eyes to become immortal.

There's no way you could have known because EMS hadn't been revealed yet.

Originally posted by King Kandy
There's no way you could have known because EMS hadn't been revealed yet.

However, Madara still being around (and having to be rediculously old) WAS known. ✅

Originally posted by dadudemon
However, Madara still being around (and having to be rediculously old) WAS known. ✅
90 isn't ridiculously old. And Tobi being Madara being known before EMS means..you couldn't know if EMS was the reason for looking young or why he still looks young.

You know, something just occured to me? Why was Orochimaru so obsessed with Itachi and his sharingan when they met in Akatsuki, even though he had met Pain earlier and seemed to show absolutely no interest in his own, far superior eyes?

Itachi was like 13...why else?

Course could also be he had never truly seen Pein up close while in Akatsuki. It's not like they have a big get together. They communicate with each other as shadows.

Originally posted by King Kandy
You know, something just occured to me? Why was Orochimaru so obsessed with Itachi and his sharingan when they met in Akatsuki, even though he had met Pain earlier and seemed to show absolutely no interest in his own, far superior eyes?
Maybe he knew about Madara, and as such knew about the power the EMS can bring?

Maybe he was not stupid enough to fight Pain?

Originally posted by Kento
Itachi was like 13...why else?

😆 😆 😆

OMFG!

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I didn't see that one coming.

Originally posted by dadudemon
😆 😆 😆

OMFG!

😆

I didn't see that one coming.

😛

Originally posted by King Kandy
You know, something just occured to me? Why was Orochimaru so obsessed with Itachi and his sharingan when they met in Akatsuki, even though he had met Pain earlier and seemed to show absolutely no interest in his own, far superior eyes?
he'd go after the rinnigan after he gained the sharingan, he's all about possessing all the best justus so he would have to.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he'd go after the rinnigan after he gained the sharingan, he's all about possessing all the best justus so he would have to.
He'd have to actual knows it exist first. That and I don't see Oro as suicidal. I doubt he'd go after somebody who is so much more powerful than him. Which is why he tried once to go after Itachi.

Why do you guys care so much to actually argue about it?