The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by NemeBro
Even with her jacket on, she clearly has the largest rack of them all, by far, it is her only claim to fame, and after being beaten by both Neji and Pain, we get a good view of it.

Your confusing us calling her a walking rack with us saying she is a fanservice character.

The biggest rack of the rather unfortunate 6 naruto teens? Wow, now that's big. If she was a walking rack that would be her defining trait, not something that people noticed for two pages. If she really was a walking rack, her rack should be noticeable. It isn't.

She's been emotional support, and considering Kishimoto's attitude towards girls and women, that's big. She's had a more active role than practically any girl in the Naruto series can lay claim to.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
The biggest rack of the rather unfortunate 6 naruto teens? Wow, now that's big. If she was a walking rack that would be her defining trait, not something that people noticed for two pages. If she really was a walking rack, her rack should be noticeable. It isn't.

She's been emotional support, and considering Kishimoto's attitude towards girls and women, that's big. She's had a more active role than practically any girl in the Naruto series can lay claim to.

Emotional support...Yeah, I can give you that, not that that was at all what I was talking about. More active role than any girl in Naruto? Well let us see...Sakura and Chiyo fought and defeated an Akatsuki member, Sakura also was the most active of the Kunoichi during Pain's invasion barring Tsunade (Which does not say much), Sakura also has provided emotional support. Hinata gets a more spotlight than Ino and Tenten I give you. Also, you seem to be misunderstanding me. In terms of her CAPABILITIES AS A KUNOICHI (To dumb it down for you, fighting showings), she is severely lacking, in fights, her only claim to fame is they show her ample chest. If you were paying attention, that was what I was talking about all along.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It is noticeable. 😬 Maybe not in the first part of the series, but it is so blatantly obvious in Shippuden, jacket or no.

Emotional support...Yeah, I can give you that, not that that was at all what I was talking about. More active role than any girl in Naruto? Well let us see...Sakura and Chiyo fought and defeated an Akatsuki member, Sakura also was the most active of the Kunoichi during Pain's invasion barring Tsunade (Which does not say much), Sakura also has provided emotional support. Hinata gets a more spotlight than Ino and Tenten I give you. Also, you seem to be misunderstanding me. In terms of her CAPABILITIES AS A KUNOICHI (To dumb it down for you, fighting showings), she is severely lacking, in fights, her only claim to fame is they show her ample chest. If you were paying attention, that was what I was talking about all along.

I made a distinction between girl and woman, only an idiot would expect Hinata to perform on-line with anybody above her rank. Which means that she is only arguably behind Sakura. The "main" female character of the series. Putting Hinata in front of -many- other girls.

There's a limit to how much you can expect a sidelined character like her to appear and do. She had a huge appearance in the Pein saga, and if she is a "walking rack" then what the hell does that make any character with a C-cup + then?

I'm pretty disappointed how weak all the kunoichi are especially in Shippuden. I mean, I kind of expected the Konoha kunoichi to be weak, but I was still holding out my hopes that Konan would do something. She didn't, at all. It's horrible that Mizukage kicked more ass in like her one issue of fighting than all the other female shinobi combined.

I made a distinction between girl and woman, only an idiot would expect Hinata to perform on-line with anybody above her rank. Which means that she is only arguably behind Sakura. The "main" female character of the series. Putting Hinata in front of -many- other girls.

and even that is wrong considering both tayuya and temari have shown far greater abilities than she has as well and neither of them are main characters and both of them were also genin at the time.

the only females in the show that hinata might be "superior" to... is ten-ten and ino. thats it. congratulations shes won the special Olympics but shes still a retard. =\

so yeah shes a walking pair of breasts her irritating timidness obviously doesnt make her a very good ninja as weve seen and the only time she ever grows a spine is when the main character is almost dead that is horrible. as you said yourself the only reason for her existence is "emotional support" aka "a plot device". and she even fails at that because shes so timid that the majority of the time she cheers for people she whispers it to herself or says it in her mind. =\ can you think of more than one time where someone in the series started fighting harder because they heard her cheering for them?

as i remember it the only times people have fought harder because of her is because they were avenging her getting her ass kicked by someone (neji and pein?) 😬

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
as i remember it the only times people have fought harder because of her is because they were avenging her getting her ass kicked by someone (neji and pein?) 😬

That's pretty big, dontcha think?

I consider those important points in the story. Naruto tends to.....fight harder for females. 😎

Hinata would kick Sakura's ass imo.

i dont think she would. too slow too weak etc. ive never seen her do anything that would leave me to believe that anyway. i dont think theyd ever fight anyway though because i think hinatas probably scared of her. 😐

Nah, Sakurs never actually shown any speed that would make me think shes faster than Hinata, and I doubt Sakura's non-existant martial arts skill would let her hit Hinata even once.

what martial arts skills or speed has hinata shown at all that would make you think that she is on par with what sakura has shown in speed and martial arts skill? 😐 😛

Her fight with Neji showed more skill than anything sakura's done, and she managed to trade blows with Pein before he shinra tensied her. Considering how fast he is, that alone puts her beyond Sakura's zip-all speed showings.

Seriously, I can't remember one ounce of speed from Sakura.

Originally posted by Nephthys
[B]Her fight with Neji showed more skill than anything sakura's done,

how? neji wasnt even taking her seriously and didnt even sweat during that entire fight. in fact he spent the majority of the fight underestimating and wasnt trying to kill her until the very end.

and she managed to trade blows with Pein before he shinra tensied her.

no they didnt. she ran at him and he used it and she was down instantly. they never "traded blows".

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/437/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/437/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/437/13/

😐

she didnt dodge a single one of his techniques and he never came even close to being hit by anything she did. 😬

on another note pein really makes me laugh 😂

Originally posted by Nephthys
she managed to trade blows with Pein

😖hifty:

how? neji wasnt even taking her seriously and didnt even sweat during that entire fight. in fact he spent the majority of the fight underestimating and wasnt trying to kill her until the very end.

Just becuase Neji wasn't going all out doesn't detract from her display of martial arts prowess. And if shes so crap can you post one showing of Sakuras that tops hers?

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no they didnt. she ran at him and he used it and she was down instantly. they never "traded blows".[\quote]

Yeah they did, on page 13 you can clearly see the impact artwork in the first panel from where hes blocked her blows, the kinda funky diamond things. If he was faster than her he would have just beat her down or used one of his rod knives that he can seemingly pull outta his ass.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Well tbh she hasn't really done anything other than being strangled by Kakuzu, just like Hinata hasn't done anything other than get stabbed by pain.

But in terms of POTENTIAL, Ino has the most, by FAR.

She's learning Medical, which is the key to Sakura's super strength, as well as Mind controlling techniques from her father.

Potentially she could be one of the most powerful characters in Naruto. Not that she ever will. But still that's just Potentially speaking.

hinata is a hyuuga, nuff' said, sakura is the second coming of tsunade, she's not even half there yet but you can see where she's going.

ino is in the very bottom of shinobi with names (minus konohamaru's friends), ten ten would stomp her, ino's a support character at best. (kakuzu pretty much proved her incapable of even that lame role)

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I made a distinction between girl and woman, only an idiot would expect Hinata to perform on-line with anybody above her rank. Which means that she is only arguably behind Sakura. The "main" female character of the series. Putting Hinata in front of -many- other girls.

There's a limit to how much you can expect a sidelined character like her to appear and do. She had a huge appearance in the Pein saga, and if she is a "walking rack" then what the hell does that make any character with a C-cup + then?

Really? Nearly all the rest of the Konoha 11 that are sideling characters have superior performances, along with others of her rank. A huge appearance...Of getting the crap kicked out of her. It was some good development, but again, not what I am talking about. Of all the Konoha 11, shit, above even older girls like Temari, she has the largest breasts.

The only female she is certainly superior to is Ino, who is garbage, Tenten is actually arguable. Include males, and you really see how weak she comes off.

'Absolute moron' huh? I love it when you talk dirty to me.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Just becuase Neji wasn't going all out doesn't detract from her display of martial arts prowess.

yes it does because theres no reason to assume that neji was moving at his max speed and using the maximum of his abilities so how is that a good showing on hinatas part? you have no idea how much neji may have been holding back in the majority of that fight. especially considering that when he wanted to end the fight he bypassed her defenses and took her out instantly. what youre saying would be comparable to saying that its a good showing for a toddler to survive a "fight" with his father even though the father was holding back.

And if shes so crap can you post one showing of Sakuras that tops hers?

you mean besides killing a hundred foot centipede with one punch and her showings of agility against sasori's puppets w/o chiyyo's strings? hinata has never shown feats comparable. can you provide actual specific feats from hinata that match that? any specific feats at all?

Yeah they did, on page 13 you can clearly see the impact artwork in the first panel from where hes blocked her blows, the kinda funky diamond things.

he didnt block them look at the dust cloud around peins feet he just jumped out of the way.

If he was faster than her he would have just beat her down or used one of his rod knives that he can seemingly pull outta his ass. [/B]

you cant say what he "would" have done because youre not him 😐 how do you know he didnt not attack her then because he was curious who she was or simply wasnt sure what type of attack it was? besides its easier to dodge something than it is than to block it or counter it that is a prime philosophy in martial arts.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Okay. Why are her performances inferior to Tayuya and Temari when they were Genin, while she was a Chunin? Arguably? Only an absolute moron would think Hinata based on showings would even stand a chance against Sakura. Her only performances are of her getting the shit kicked out of her. Also, why only compare her to the females?

Really? Nearly all the rest of the Konoha 11 that are sideling characters have superior performances, along with others of her rank. A huge appearance...Of getting the crap kicked out of her. It was some good development, but again, not what I am talking about. Of all the Konoha 11, shit, above even older girls like Temari, she has the largest breasts.

The only female she is certainly superior to is Ino, who is garbage, Tenten is actually arguable. Include males, and you really see how weak she comes off.

You don't really pay attention to a lot of things, do you? Temari is the daughter of the Kazekage and did not do anything "better" than Hinata. She fought two opponents she was designed to beat. Temari is a ranged combatant and Hinata is close quarters. Either would destroy eachother in their respective areas. Tayuya was never confirmed to be a genin, and she fought Genma/Raidou along with the other Sound 4. Hardly someone equal to Hinata's rank.

What sidelined characters have such great appearances? And why compare her to the starting 11, that's not a particularly fairl deal or a decent measuring stick for an average chuunin/genin? Naruto and Sasuke are the strongest genin evaaa. Sakura is the Hokage's personal apprentice. Neji is the genius son of the hyuuga and Rock Lee is not even worth bringing up and Shikamaru beat a god damned member of Akatsuki. Which leaves who? Tenten, Kiba, Shino, Ino and Chouji? Hinata being weaker or stronger than any of these is arguable.

Further more, what's wrong with losing? Rock Lee's two major fights have been losses. She faced down Neji, her senior and Pein. You have to look at her performances in these fights, not chalk it up to win/loss ratio facepalm And as a result of BOTH these cases, she provided Naruto with the emotional support he needed to win. This ain't no interpretation, that's just how it is. I claimed that Hinata provided Naruto with important emotional support, and she did.