The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by Kento

lol It's always been my classification of Sasuke. I have called him gay but he's not really. Well maybe when it comes to Itachi....

I believe I was the one to use the term first though 😛.
Hard to be gay for your dead brother. MOAR liek necro-lover?

Originally posted by Kento
😛 And then he got pwned by Gaara even after using CS Chidori.

Because Gaara used a transformation, and Sasuke was out of chakra 😛.
CS2 Sasuke would have pwned human-Shukaku form Gaara

Originally posted by Kento
Maybe, but it was never really said. But that's a probably a good reason as to why he chased after it. Though >.> Sasuke's body isn't strong. Just his eyes. 😛

I don't remember if it was stated, but it's the closest explanation I can come up with to be honest.

Hehe, that's why Orochimaru trained him for 2+ years, in order to make his body stronger. Plus, with all that sexual torture Sasuke must have gone through at the hands of Karin and Orochimaru, you can't say that his body isn't strong 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
I think the training would be just to manage the chakra consumption. He didn't need Lee's speed to learn it, he just needed to learn Lee's speed to use it effectively. The training was for the speed, and to control it better. But it's not like he wouldn't have been able to do it right after seeing Kakashi do it. Just probably consumed way more chakra than normal.

Yeah, that makes sense, kind of what I was trying to say 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
All I remember is Kakashi saying he wasn't ever able to mix elemental nature with Rasengan. But I could be wrong.

That too. I believe he couldn't mix his Raiton nature with Rasengan, so instead he came up with Chidori, which he completed with Obito's Sharingan and later upgraded to Raikiri.

Originally posted by Kento
Well Kurenai probably liked her more, but I meant in the Jounin's taking under their wing. Though Asuma is the only one I recall trying to get all of his Genin to train. Even going as far to bribe Chouji.

Yeah, Asuma was cool like that.

Sakura was left out of any specialized training from Kakashi, and it makes sense since she was such a pansy in Part 1. She was a genjutsu type, so I don't know why Tsunade didn't teach her genjutsu as well.

Originally posted by Kento
He was already a hero after beating Gaara. lol He accomplished his goal to get everybody to acknowledge him already, which is the only reason he had to become Hokage to prove himself.

Yes, but he wasn't on his father's level of hero. He reached that level after he saved what was left of Konoha from Pein.

Originally posted by Kento
😛 That's where Itachi-powered Sage Mode comes in.

Which Sasuke will beat thanks to Madara-powered hatred 😛.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I believe I was the one to use the term first though 😛.
Hard to be gay for your dead brother. MOAR liek necro-lover?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Because Gaara used a transformation, and Sasuke was out of chakra 😛.
CS2 Sasuke would have pwned human-Shukaku form Gaara

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Hehe, that's why Orochimaru trained him for 2+ years, in order to make his body stronger. Plus, with all that sexual torture Sasuke must have gone through at the hands of Karin and Orochimaru, you can't say that his body isn't strong 😛.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah, that makes sense, kind of what I was trying to say 😛.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
That too. I believe he couldn't mix his Raiton nature with Rasengan, so instead he came up with Chidori, which he completed with Obito's Sharingan and later upgraded to Raikiri.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah, Asuma was cool like that.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Sakura was left out of any specialized training from Kakashi, and it makes sense since she was such a pansy in Part 1. She was a genjutsu type, so I don't know why Tsunade didn't teach her genjutsu as well.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yes, but he wasn't on his father's level of hero. He reached that level after he saved what was left of Konoha from Pein.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Which Sasuke will beat thanks to Madara-powered hatred 😛.

Anyone watch the filler episodes we're currently in? I like the jinchuriki guy, but i've never seen such lame, generic stock villains in my life.

You obviously haven't played enough Pokemon.

Originally posted by Kento
Never, Sasuke's hate can't defeat Itachi's love.

😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by King Kandy
Anyone watch the filler episodes we're currently in? I like the jinchuriki guy, but i've never seen such lame, generic stock villains in my life.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
they always have fodder villains like that in the fillers: 5 dudes w/ uninteresting motives/abilities/looks who eventually get killed off and forgotten about.

Spoiler:
It's mostly a flashback from when Sarutobi and Danzo were kids, and used to be best friends... pretty interesting. Danzo tries to self-destruct to kill sasuke or something, but it doesn't work (not like Deidara where sasuke escapes, no it just plain doesn't work). Kiba and konoha ninjas locate Sasuke and they're going to go battle him now. Karin seems to be really permanently dead.

Kiba ftw.

...sasuke still has chakra?

this chapter makes me bored of sasuke's whole plot even more.

Yeah. I mean I could tell Sasuke would win... but I at least hoped Danzo would survive the encounter, since he's a 10x more interesting character.

Pft what a weak Hokage. Couldn't take 20 men even with Saru, and an Uchiha by his side...and Danzou but..

But at least we now know how Nidaime died.

I agree, very lame. Also Sarutobi became Hokage so young! Wasn't there someone else to pick? I mean, I know he's Sarutobi but wow...

The twenty men were "elite Kumo bounty hunters"... given how tough all the kumo we've seen so far are (at jugo/suigetsu level at least) it's not that unreasonable to think they could kill Nidaime.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I agree, very lame. Also Sarutobi became Hokage so young! Wasn't there someone else to pick? I mean, I know he's Sarutobi but wow...

The twenty men were "elite Kumo bounty hunters"... given how tough all the kumo we've seen so far are (at jugo/suigetsu level at least) it's not that unreasonable to think they could kill Nidaime.

😬 Juugo and Suigetsu level are weak. Least to a Hokage should be. And the fact Nidaime survived fighting the Uchiha back when they all had MS along side Shodai you wouldn't think he'd be one of the strongest alive at that time.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
this chapter makes me bored of sasuke's whole plot even more.

I agree, why the hell is this dude still fighting?

First he killed Itachi for killing the clan, then he killed Danzo for ordering Itachi to do it, now it seems he's going after Konoha (poor Konoha, can't catch a damn break), then he's going to go after the world for letting Konoha exist, then he's going to attack the galaxy for giving birth to the world, then he's going to pop into reality and kill Kishimoto, then japan, then the world AGAIN, and so and so on and so on.

Originally posted by Kento
lol So. 😛 When Itachi was alive he was gay for him.

True. Kind of like how Naruto is gay for Sasuke?

Originally posted by Kento
Gaara would have owned Sasuke cs2 with transformed. With his awesomeness. 😛

Pah, awesomeness is nothing compared to hax 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
It's not torture if you're willing. And we all know Sasuke will do anything to get stronger. lol

Yeah, I guess you are right, I don't think S&M is torture anyway 😛

Originally posted by Kento
Eh, if Jiraiya could learn rasengan I don't see how Kakashi even at that young of an age couldn't learn it. Faster than Jiraiya at that.

No, I never said he did not learn Rasengan. I said that he couldn't mix his elemental chakra (Lightning) with his Rasengan, so he instead came up with Chidori. Naruto's the first one to mix his elemental-type chakra with the Rasengan.

Also, Jiraiya may not have been able to learn Sage mode properly or as fast as Naruto, but would that apply to all the other jutsu that he had to learn?

Originally posted by Kento
To bad his only real fight was his death. He was my favorite Jounin.

Same here. Gai's hilarious and all, but Asuma's actually cool.

Originally posted by Kento
Tsunade probably can't use genjutsu well. She's a medical ninja so I doubt she really has genjutsu skills.

To be a Medic-ninja, you have to have good chakra control. Those ninjas are well-suited to genjutsu as well iirc. Tsunade and Sakura both have exceptional chakra control, so you'd think they'd use genjutsu. Kakashi also stated that Sakura is a genjutsu type, I think.

Originally posted by Kento
Eh All the Hokages are probably at the same level of hero. Naruto was just able to do it without being one. lol

Pah, Tsunade and Danzou aren't, well, not too sure about Danzou, but Tsunade definitely isn't.

Sarutobi didn't reach Minato's level until he saved Konoha from Pedomaru.

We don't know enough about Nidaime, but we know he was loyal.

Don't know if Shodaime can be called a hero, well, he was a founding father, so I guess he is one. But he screwed the Uchiha, so I say **** no 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
Never, Sasuke's hate can't defeat Itachi's love.

When Itachi's love is polluted by Naruto's emo-ness, hell yes it can 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
Pft what a weak Hokage. Couldn't take 20 men even with Saru, and an Uchiha by his side...and Danzou but..

But at least we now know how Nidaime died.

I don't think he was weak.

For one, he's taking on 20 men all alone, and for another, they all are likely to be highly skilled with Raiton jutsu (among other types). Even if he was said to be the best Water-type shinobi ever, against 20 men that are highly skilled with Raiton jutsu, that is a rather bad situation.

Also, we don't know for certain if that's how he died. He could have escaped for all we know.

Originally posted by Kento
Well Minato was about just as young if not younger when he became Hokage. Besides, Nidai and Shodai were training him to become Hokage to begin with weren't they? Flashbacks during Saru's death seem to show that.

😬 Juugo and Suigetsu level are weak. Least to a Hokage should be. And the fact Nidaime survived fighting the Uchiha back when they all had MS along side Shodai you wouldn't think he'd be one of the strongest alive at that time.

He was probably 22-25 when he became Hokage. Sarutobi looks much younger to be honest. Probably 18-19. Though yeah, he was trained by the First Hokage and his brother.

Looks like even Danzou was emo in the end 😛

Wasn't MS very rare at that time? Only Madara and Izuna Uchiha had the MS at first and it wasn't well understood back then.

~ Suigetsu's extremely durable, and the same somewhat applies to Juugo. Plus they're both pretty fast as well. You only think they are weak as they were overshadowed by the awesomeness that was Sasuke 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
Well Minato was about just as young if not younger when he became Hokage. Besides, Nidai and Shodai were training him to become Hokage to begin with weren't they? Flashbacks during Saru's death seem to show that.

😬 Juugo and Suigetsu level are weak. Least to a Hokage should be. And the fact Nidaime survived fighting the Uchiha back when they all had MS along side Shodai you wouldn't think he'd be one of the strongest alive at that time.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
True. Kind of like how Naruto is gay for Sasuke?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Pah, awesomeness is nothing compared to hax 😛.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah, I guess you are right, I don't think S&M is torture anyway 😛

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
No, I never said he did not learn Rasengan. I said that he couldn't mix his elemental chakra (Lightning) with his Rasengan, so he instead came up with Chidori. Naruto's the first one to mix his elemental-type chakra with the Rasengan.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Also, Jiraiya may not have been able to learn Sage mode properly or as fast as Naruto, but would that apply to all the other jutsu that he had to learn?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
To be a Medic-ninja, you have to have good chakra control. Those ninjas are well-suited to genjutsu as well iirc. Tsunade and Sakura both have exceptional chakra control, so you'd think they'd use genjutsu. Kakashi also stated that Sakura is a genjutsu type, I think.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Pah, Tsunade and Danzou aren't, well, not too sure about Danzou, but Tsunade definitely sn't.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Sarutobi didn't reach Minato's level until he saved Konoha from Pedomaru.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
We don't know enough about Nidaime, but we know he was loyal.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Don't know if Shodaime can be called a hero, well, he was a founding father, so I guess he is one. But he screwed the Uchiha, so I say **** no 😛.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
When Itachi's love is polluted by Naruto's emo-ness, hell yes it can 😛.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I don't think he was weak.

For one, he's taking on 20 men all alone, and for another, they all are likely to be highly skilled with Raiton jutsu (among other types). Even if he was said to be the best Water-type shinobi ever, against 20 men that are highly skilled with Raiton jutsu, that is a rather bad situation.

Also, we don't know for certain if that's how he died. He could have escaped for all we know.

And why go alone? And why does he have two teams with him without the other team leader. Why not set up an ambush without sacrificing a guy. He's got a genius in Saru, who most genius in the Naruto have always been even young. The couldn't come up with a better plan than to kill himself?

Pretty sure it is though. The Databook states after he gave Saru the title of Hokage he went off to die in battle during the first great war.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He was probably 22-25 when he became Hokage. Sarutobi looks much younger to be honest. Probably 18-19. Though yeah, he was trained by the First Hokage and his brother.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Looks like even Danzou was emo in the end 😛

QUOTE=12497347]Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Wasn't MS very rare at that time? Only Madara and Izuna Uchiha had the MS at first and it wasn't well understood back then.

~ Suigetsu's extremely durable, and the same somewhat applies to Juugo. Plus they're both pretty fast as well. You only think they are weak as they were overshadowed by the awesomeness that was Sasuke 😛. [/QUOTE] MS wasn't known until Madara and Izuna, but the battle between Uchiha and Senju 'ended' long after when the creation of Konoha was made. Between that time Itachi said that there was lots, even with EMS. Not just Madara. And no Konoha Uchiha had MS until Itachi. Also Madara has said that Susanoo was rare iirc. So Nidaime had to be fighting them.

Pft if Suigetsu was strong Zabuza's sword would have seen him as a worthy master and not broken. 😛 Besides Juugo was easily owned by Raikage, that's the difference in power between Juugo level and prime Kage level.

true Juugo got knocked around by Raikage like nothing. hopefully Juugo does something to redeem himself.

on another note, I'm happy that Karin is most likely dead. she annoyed the hell out of me. and Sakura actually thought she could put Kiba, Lee, and the Sai clone to sleep that easily. my contempt for her has just doubled at her new level of stupidty.

and now Sasuke and Madara are going to start towards what currently represents Konoha and will probably have to face Kakashi along the way.