The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by Demonic Phoenix1,600 pages
Originally posted by Kento
😛 That's why Konohamaru or Naruto should be Hokage. They could both defeat Saru. Just imagine how much blood Saru would loose if Konohamaru did his sexy jutsu with two girls instead of Sai and Sasuke.

I miss the old geezer. It's a pity Asuma wasn't a perv; was he?
Konohamaru could take on both Jiraiya and Sarutobi, and still win 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
Oro is very manly...when compared to some visual kei artists.....And Haku.

Hinata is more manly than Orochimaru 😛.

Haku should have survived IMO. It'd be interesting to see what kind of Ice-based jutsu he'd have right now.
Though if we were to discuss which enemy should be brought back, I'd say Kimimaro.

Originally posted by Kento
He may have only taught Lee the Lotus but even then he was shown training the others also iirc during flashbacks. Which is a lot more than can be said for Kakashi.

These flashbacks happen in the manga? Anyway, yeah, I was exaggerating, Gai would have trained Tenten, though I don't know if he would have helped her with accuracy.

Well, Kakashi did train Sasuke intensively. Increased the dude's speed and taught him Chidori. Besides, he is about team-work iirc, so he probably trained them to work well with each other, unlike Gai, who was more focused on Lee and on upstaging the cooler Kakashi 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
In part 2. I want part 1 Naruto to come back. He'd be all like dattebayo, lets go, never give up never surrender. He's gone away from his way of the ninja. 😛 And Sasuke is emo, and now stupid.

No shit. He doesn't use dattebayo in part 2?

Originally posted by Kento
There are area effect genjutsu. Besides unless Karin can control her ability I can see Danzo just biting into her. He should be smart enough after see Sasuke do it.

Ones that affect people +10 m away? Not to mention, Karin would have probably pointed it out.

Oh yeah, he could bite into her, though when Sasuke was biting Karin, Danzou was groveling in the dirt and then his wood arm went out of control.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Tried to kill Kirabi as well... or diliver him to death at least.

Originally posted by Kento
He specifically didn't kill all the cursed seal guys, and even told Suigetsu not to. He's only been after to kill Itachi, and Oro. Nobody else until Danzo and the Elders, and then he randomly kills Samurai..which is just weird.

Meh, ever since he found out the truth about Itachi, he's somewhat abandoned that method. He still doesn't go out of his way to kill others, only those that he's after, it's just that he's after more people this time.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
^ Killed that Jay dude.
Who?
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I miss the old geezer. It's a pity Asuma wasn't a perv; was he?
Konohamaru could take on both Jiraiya and Sarutobi, and still win 😛.
No, he got a girl so of course not. Unlike the rest he actually got some. lol Konohamaru could take on anybody and win.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Hinata is more manly than Orochimaru 😛.

Haku should have survived IMO. It'd be interesting to see what kind of Ice-based jutsu he'd have right now.
Though if we were to discuss which enemy should be brought back, I'd say Kimimaro.

😛 Just because Oro likes little boys doesn't make him less manly.

I agree. Haku, and Zabuza get no respect cause they were the first villains it sucks. Haku still the only person I recall that can do one-handed seals.
Eh I'm not sure if I'd want Kimimaro to come back. Didn't really like him, unless it was to kick Sasuke's butt for 'killing' Oro. But if he never got sick, Sasuke would never be who he is, and Oro would be in Kimimaro's body, and not dead.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
These flashbacks happen in the manga? Anyway, yeah, I was exaggerating, Gai would have trained Tenten, though I don't know if he would have helped her with accuracy.
I thought they did...can't remember now for sure.....

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Well, Kakashi did train Sasuke intensively. Increased the dude's speed and taught him Chidori. Besides, he is about team-work iirc, so he probably trained them to work well with each other, unlike Gai, who was more focused on Lee and on upstaging the cooler Kakashi 😛.
Eh I don't really think Kakashi taught Sasuke much of anything. Sasuke has a copy eye. Show him once, and he's learned it. Also Kakashi never really taught them at all after the Land of the Waves arc. Just Sasuke, though I think Kurenai was the only one who never picked a favorite and taught specifically. Asuma had Shikamaru, Lee with Gai, and Sasuke for Kakashi.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
No shit. He doesn't use dattebayo in part 2?
Don't watch the anime. lol So no clue. I doubt that he stopped saying it I just mean he doesn't have that same attitude anymore.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Ones that affect people +10 m away? Not to mention, Karin would have probably pointed it out.
Not at the end of the chapter she wouldn't have.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Oh yeah, he could bite into her, though when Sasuke was biting Karin, Danzou was groveling in the dirt and then his wood arm went out of control.
Good point. *shrugs* Guess we will just have to wait and see. Hopefully it's just over and no genjutsu happens.

Naruto still says "dattebayo."

It's stupid.

And, I hate how they have the same female voice for a 16-year-old Naruto. You'd think his nuts would have dropped by now. 😐

Gokou was like..60? and had the same voice since he was 12.

Originally posted by Kento
Gokou was like..60? and had the same voice since he was 12.

Giving an example of another stupid voice-acting assignment is not helping. 😐

Originally posted by dadudemon
Giving an example of another stupid voice-acting assignment is not helping. 😐
😆 It's more of a...it doesn't matter to me. A lot of guys are played by girls in Japan. I actually like Gokou/Goten/Gohan/Bardock's voice actor in Japanese.

Originally posted by Kento
😆 It's more of a...it doesn't matter to me. A lot of guys are played by girls in Japan. I actually like Gokou/Goten/Gohan/Bardock's voice actor in Japanese.

I couldn't stand to watch subs because his voice was so horrible. Vegeta had a great voice though imo.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I couldn't stand to watch subs because his voice was so horrible. Vegeta had a great voice though imo.
*shrug* Eh, to each their own.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Naruto still says "dattebayo."

It's stupid.

And, I hate how they have the same female voice for a 16-year-old Naruto. You'd think his nuts would have dropped by now. 😐

As opposed to Shino having a deep voice at 12, when his nuts hadn't even dropped.

V.acting can be humorous.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
As opposed to Shino having a deep voice at 12, when his nuts hadn't even dropped.

V.acting can be humorous.

I don't know about you but my voice started changing at late 11, early 12. Didn't get much deeper after 12.

And, like Kento implied...it's some sort of tradition or something to cast females for male characters.

they use females to do young boy's voices so the producers can work longer hours without having to work around a real child's allowable work hours. kids can only work for several hours per day and voice acting lines take a while to get right, and of coarse children's voices change and it's gone for good.

kids also suck at getting the emotions just right since they haven't really lived through shit, an adult at least has experience.

I understand that, but what bugs me is when they have girls do teen/adult male voices.

Originally posted by Kento
Who?

The dude that followed Taka just after they "caught Kirabi."

Well, we don't know whether he actually killed him or mentally tortured him with Tsukiyomi, but Juugo doesn't seem the type to kill someone, not unless he's in killer-mode. I don't think Juugo would have entered that state against such a lowly ninja.

Originally posted by Kento
No, he got a girl so of course not. Unlike the rest he actually got some. lol Konohamaru could take on anybody and win.

Sarutobi also got some as well, Asuma was born wasn't he 😛? Besides, he was the freaking Kage, he could get some whenever he wanted.

Not Sasuke and perhaps not Neji (unless Konohamaru can turn into Hinata 😛)

Originally posted by Kento
😛 Just because Oro likes little boys doesn't make him less manly.

Yes it does 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
I agree. Haku, and Zabuza get no respect cause they were the first villains it sucks. Haku still the only person I recall that can do one-handed seals.
Eh I'm not sure if I'd want Kimimaro to come back. Didn't really like him, unless it was to kick Sasuke's butt for 'killing' Oro. But if he never got sick, Sasuke would never be who he is, and Oro would be in Kimimaro's body, and not dead.

That one handed seal thing is IMO still the coolest thing in part 1, well, maybe slightly less cooler than CS2 and Raikiri/Chidori 😛.

That's true.
Oro in Kimimaro's body would be quite something.

Originally posted by Kento
Eh I don't really think Kakashi taught Sasuke much of anything. Sasuke has a copy eye. Show him once, and he's learned it. Also Kakashi never really taught them at all after the Land of the Waves arc. Just Sasuke, though I think Kurenai was the only one who never picked a favorite and taught specifically. Asuma had Shikamaru, Lee with Gai, and Sasuke for Kakashi.

I don't know if Sasuke could copy Chidori with the Sharingan though. Even if he is also a Raiton-type, he'd have to learn how to form the chakra into his hand first right? Chidori is somewhat like Rasengan; I believe I read somewhere that Kakashi ended up with Chidori after trying and failing to mix his elemental chakra with Rasengan.

Well, Kurenai did take an interest in teaching Hinata remember? I think she was like a mother/big sister figure to Hinata.

Originally posted by Kento
Don't watch the anime. lol So no clue. I doubt that he stopped saying it I just mean he doesn't have that same attitude anymore.

Ahh, that's true.
BUT, he ain't a kid anymore. He even stopped chasing Sakura, he realizes he is no match for Sasuke 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
Not at the end of the chapter she wouldn't have.

True, but Madara is quite a distance away though.

Originally posted by Kento
Good point. *shrugs* Guess we will just have to wait and see. Hopefully it's just over and no genjutsu happens.

Same here.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
The dude that followed Taka just after they "caught Kirabi."

Well, we don't know whether he actually killed him or mentally tortured him with Tsukiyomi, but Juugo doesn't seem the type to kill someone, not unless he's in killer-mode. I don't think Juugo would have entered that state against such a lowly ninja.

Oh, him. Never thought of Sasuke killing him though. Hmm

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Sarutobi also got some as well, Asuma was born wasn't he 😛? Besides, he was the freaking Kage, he could get some whenever he wanted.
lol He got some back in the day, doesn't mean the old man was getting any at his old age.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Not Sasuke and perhaps not Neji (unless Konohamaru can turn into Hinata 😛)
Sasuke could get anybody if he wasn't so...Asexual. >.> Neji probably gets TenTen..they 'train' an awful lot together.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yes it does 😛.
Nu-uh just makes him creepy. lol

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
That one handed seal thing is IMO still the coolest thing in part 1, well, maybe slightly less cooler than CS2 and Raikiri/Chidori 😛.
Much cooler than Chidori or CS2 😛

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
That's true.
Oro in Kimimaro's body would be quite something.
True, all those jutsu and skills in a nearly indestructible body. But whats the point of wanting Sasuke or Kimimaro's body if he can only have it for 3 years? Seems kind of a waste of power at his command.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix [/i
I don't know if Sasuke could copy Chidori with the Sharingan though. Even if he is also a Raiton-type, he'd have to learn how to form the chakra into his hand first right? Chidori is somewhat like Rasengan; I believe I read somewhere that Kakashi ended up with Chidori after trying and failing to mix his elemental chakra with Rasengan.
It's hand seals. The sharingan you don't need to know anything, it's just an automatic copy. He probably had to train with it to get use to the power, and all that. But to learn it all he needed was sharingan. And Kakashi learned/made Chidori before he had sharingan so really not the same....though not really sure where you heard that at. People also say sharingan can't learn Rasengan, but there really is no proof, just cause it has no hand seals doesn't mean it won't copy it.

[i]Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Well, Kurenai did take an interest in teaching Hinata remember? I think she was like a mother/big sister figure to Hinata.
She took an interest in her because her father was all, I don't care about her do whatever. It never actually shows Kurenai training her, the flashbacks showed Kurenai watching from behind something if I recall as Hinata trained. She knew Hinata was strong but scared but never see her actually trying to help her.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Ahh, that's true.
BUT, he ain't a kid anymore. He even stopped chasing Sakura, he realizes he is no match for Sasuke 😛.
Being a kid anymore doesn't mean he has to loose faith in himself suddenly. Which is basically all it was. Belief that he could change fate, and everything. lol Nah he realizes he's going to have to take the friend gloves off, and kill Sasuke, who is no match for his Sage Power.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
True, but Madara is quite a distance away though.
There are illusions that chance what is seen, not just for one person but what anybody looking at the place. Not that I think sharingan has that capability. But can't have a cliff-hanger at the end of the chapter if Madara is just like, why is Sasuke standing there. lol I doubt it's a genjutsu I'm just going to laugh if it is.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
they use females to do young boy's voices so the producers can work longer hours without having to work around a real child's allowable work hours. kids can only work for several hours per day and voice acting lines take a while to get right, and of coarse children's voices change and it's gone for good.

That's not a good enough excuse for me (because I'm a spoiled American b*tch...lulz). Example: Sasuke's voice in both English and Japanese.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
kids also suck at getting the emotions just right since they haven't really lived through shit, an adult at least has experience.

That's true. But there's way too many techniques and voice talent out there to let it slide. I was fine with 12 cause I know some dudes that didn't sound like men until they were 14 (I know 2...and that's it). But 15-16? They should try a tad harder.

Here's another reason why they don't change out voice actors as their anime male characters grow up: Japan has this cultural thing about NOT firing/laying off people. It's part of the problem experienced due to that massive economic recession in the early 90s; bosses refused to lay-off because it wasn't culturally acceptable or honorable.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That's not a good enough excuse for me (because I'm a spoiled American b*tch...lulz).
Darn Americans. 😛

Originally posted by Kento
Darn Americans. 😛

Well....Japan has half the people we do...so the should be able to locate the "child talent" just as well as the 100 billion kids cartoons that we have.

Originally posted by Kento
lol He got some back in the day, doesn't mean the old man was getting any at his old age.

How would you know? He was very fit for his age, and he was a Kage 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
Sasuke could get anybody if he wasn't so...Asexual. >.> Neji probably gets TenTen..they 'train' an awful lot together.

Asexual >__>. That was my classification of Sasuke's sexuality 😛.
That's true, Konohamaru could beat him by doing a girl-on-girl jutsu using Tenten and Hinata.

Originally posted by Kento
Nu-uh just makes him creepy. lol

Which also makes him less manly 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
Much cooler than Chidori or CS2 😛

Nahh. He pwned Gaara with the former and nearly pwned Naruto with the latter 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
True, all those jutsu and skills in a nearly indestructible body. But whats the point of wanting Sasuke or Kimimaro's body if he can only have it for 3 years? Seems kind of a waste of power at his command.

He wanted an Uchiha because of their Sharingan and its ability. He tried to go after Itachi but got pwned, then went after Sasuke and got pwned again. Obviously the Sharingan would have helped him tremendously. Orochimaru + Sharingan would probably be Pein level.

As for Kimimaro, I guess he wanted his Kekkei Genkai. Not to mention, Kimimaro must have been stupidly powerful while at his prime.

Also, it's possible he could stay in Sasuke's body for longer than 3 years. I guess the body starts rejecting him BECAUSE he is that powerful. If he were to get a powerful enough host body, it wouldn't reject him, not for a long time.

Originally posted by Kento
It's hand seals. The sharingan you don't need to know anything, it's just an automatic copy. He probably had to train with it to get use to the power, and all that. But to learn it all he needed was sharingan. And Kakashi learned/made Chidori before he had sharingan so really not the same....though not really sure where you heard that at. People also say sharingan can't learn Rasengan, but there really is no proof, just cause it has no hand seals doesn't mean it won't copy it.

That's what I meant. He can copy the technique yeah, but he still has to train himself to use it effectively, provided he isn't already capable. I doubt Sasuke was capable of using Chidori from the start, first he had to adjust to Lee's level of speed, and then he'd have to be able to sustain the chakra in his hands.

I think Kakashi said it some time during the chapters where he was training Naruto so that he could learn Fuuton: Rasengan.
I'll check if he does state such a thing. If he did, it makes sense, since he was the Yondaime's star pupil and all.

Originally posted by Kento
She took an interest in her because her father was all, I don't care about her do whatever. It never actually shows Kurenai training her, the flashbacks showed Kurenai watching from behind something if I recall as Hinata trained. She knew Hinata was strong but scared but never see her actually trying to help her.

Training or otherwise, Hinata could be seen as her 'favourite pupil'.
Though yeah, I don't think Kurenai could have trained Hinata anyway, not unless it had to do with teamwork.

Originally posted by Kento
Being a kid anymore doesn't mean he has to loose faith in himself suddenly. Which is basically all it was. Belief that he could change fate, and everything. lol Nah he realizes he's going to have to take the friend gloves off, and kill Sasuke, who is no match for his Sage Power.

It's true he's lost sight of his original goal (become Hokage), but meh, he's become a hero just like his father. He's probably surpassed Minato in that regard if you ask me.

Pahh, one genjutsu from Sasuke will make Naruto his sage-powered dog 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
There are illusions that chance what is seen, not just for one person but what anybody looking at the place. Not that I think sharingan has that capability. But can't have a cliff-hanger at the end of the chapter if Madara is just like, why is Sasuke standing there. lol I doubt it's a genjutsu I'm just going to laugh if it is.

Hehe, I guess we'll find out next chapter. I hope the fight is over though >__>.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
How would you know? He was very fit for his age, and he was a Kage 😛.
>.> Got me there. lol

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Asexual >__>. That was my classification of Sasuke's sexuality 😛.
That's true, Konohamaru could beat him by doing a girl-on-girl jutsu using Tenten and Hinata.
lol It's always been my classification of Sasuke. I have called him gay but he's not really. Well maybe when it comes to Itachi....

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Which also makes him less manly 😛.
lol

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Nahh. He pwned Gaara with the former and nearly pwned Naruto with the latter 😛.
😛 And then he got pwned by Gaara even after using CS Chidori.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
[BAlso, it's possible he could stay in Sasuke's body for longer than 3 years. I guess the body starts rejecting him BECAUSE he is that powerful. If he were to get a powerful enough host body, it wouldn't reject him, not for a long time. [/B]
Maybe, but it was never really said. But that's a probably a good reason as to why he chased after it. Though >.> Sasuke's body isn't strong. Just his eyes. 😛

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
That's what I meant. He can copy the technique yeah, but he still has to train himself to use it effectively, provided he isn't already capable. I doubt Sasuke was capable of using Chidori from the start, first he had to adjust to Lee's level of speed, and then he'd have to be able to sustain the chakra in his hands.
I think the training would be just to manage the chakra consumption. He didn't need Lee's speed to learn it, he just needed to learn Lee's speed to use it effectively. The training was for the speed, and to control it better. But it's not like he wouldn't have been able to do it right after seeing Kakashi do it. Just probably consumed way more chakra than normal.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I think Kakashi said it some time during the chapters where he was training Naruto so that he could learn Fuuton: Rasengan.
I'll check if he does state such a thing. If he did, it makes sense, since he was the Yondaime's star pupil and all.
All I remember is Kakashi saying he wasn't ever able to mix elemental nature with Rasengan. But I could be wrong.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Training or otherwise, Hinata could be seen as her 'favourite pupil'.
Though yeah, I don't think Kurenai could have trained Hinata anyway, not unless it had to do with teamwork.
Well Kurenai probably liked her more, but I meant in the Jounin's taking under their wing. Though Asuma is the only one I recall trying to get all of his Genin to train. Even going as far to bribe Chouji.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
It's true he's lost sight of his original goal (become Hokage), but meh, he's become a hero just like his father. He's probably surpassed Minato in that regard if you ask me.
He was already a hero after beating Gaara. lol He accomplished his goal to get everybody to acknowledge him already, which is the only reason he had to become Hokage to prove himself.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Pahh, one genjutsu from Sasuke will make Naruto his sage-powered dog 😛.
😛 That's where Itachi-powered Sage Mode comes in.