The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by King Kandy
No, i've heard your explanation, and I still disagree.

Pein changing sides was pretty bad, but the part that tips the shit scale is how he brought everyone back to life nullifying all impact of the arc.

Cept for the fact that almost all of Konoha was destroyed, still, by Pain.

Madara is more of a gray area, imo. Sure, world domination...bla bla bla. But, he's doing that to stop all wars/violence/crime, and bring peace to the Earth. That's kind of hard to say he's evil...the only evil thing about that is the genjutsu tricking everyone into being good.

Orochimaru isn't evil, simply egoistic.

Originally posted by Astner
Orochimaru isn't evil, simply egoistic.

So, kidnapping thousands of people, turning many into salves, and experimenting on them and killing many of them during experimentation, all for the purpose of gaining all jutsu's in the world to be the most powerful person in the world, is NOT evil. Gotcha.

I'd really like to know your definition of evil...it's gotta be good.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Cept for the fact that almost all of Konoha was destroyed, still, by Pain.

no big d

Well the whole village was levelled so I going to assume it would be harder than that. Pein really could have been the ultimate villian were it not for Naruto. I know Pein reanimates bodies but where the heck did the mass ressurection come from(it was pretty cool though)? Wonder if Orochimaru can esape a permanent sealing and possess someone.

really the only thing im anticipating is the frikin' crown in narutos throat. sure there is the kisame stuff and itachis eyes, but all that stuff is kind of predictable, at least to the extent that you could probably tell what will happen right before it does. but the crow thing...that happened a long time ago, and we still have absolutely no idea what that was, not even the type of gift it would be...though i could guess it has something to do with the sharengan...

It'd be funny if all the crow did is leap out of Naruto's throat at some point and peck at Sasuke's face as a distraction.

Originally posted by Astner
Orochimaru isn't evil, simply egoistic.

😐

He's a sociopathic megalomaniac. Has no qualms about killing anyone he doesn't need. He's far 'worse' than Madara is IMO, though that's probably because Madara hasn't done much except tell us his supposed plan(s).

Originally posted by dadudemon
Cept for the fact that almost all of Konoha was destroyed, still, by Pain.

Originally posted by King Kandy
And we see that having long term results where in the manga?

It already resulting in the chaos over the Kageship, and they're still in the process of rebuilding. So yea, I see it as having long term results.

The Orochimaru attack in part 1 had results, it made them short-handed and busy for awhile, causing Kakashi to not be available for the retrieval arc.

Originally posted by menokokoro
really the only thing im anticipating is the frikin' crown in narutos throat. sure there is the kisame stuff and itachis eyes, but all that stuff is kind of predictable, at least to the extent that you could probably tell what will happen right before it does. but the crow thing...that happened a long time ago, and we still have absolutely no idea what that was, not even the type of gift it would be...though i could guess it has something to do with the sharengan...

i have a feeling the gift is just an image of itachi with a pre recorded message like in star wars.

The Minato inside Naruto isn't much, just a shadow. He'd know *of* the crow incident, but probably doesn't have the capacity to tell what it was, and mostly he'd know fox related stuff.

Originally posted by Q99
The Minato inside Naruto isn't much, just a shadow. He'd know *of* the crow incident, but probably doesn't have the capacity to tell what it was, and mostly he'd know fox related stuff.

He was aware of events happening 'outside' Naruto. It'd be illogical to think that he wasn't aware of what was happening inside Naruto, especially since he must have seen Itachi stuff the bird (no [dirty] pun intended) in Naruto's mouth.

Maybe Minato and Itachi had a small talk while in Naruto's head, and Minato felt no need to talk to Naruto about it.

Originally posted by Kento
Maybe Minato and Itachi had a small talk while in Naruto's head, and Minato felt no need to talk to Naruto about it.

😂 Just imagining two people in Naruto's head conversing with Naruto being unaware makes me laugh for some reason.

~ With all these personalities in Naruto's head, you'd think he'd show signs of mental retardation...

Oh wait...he keeps chasing after Sasuke...😐

lol Up until recently he had what two personalities in his head besides his own, and talked to one of them almost all the time. ...I really miss the Kyuubi/Naruto talks....

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He was aware of events happening 'outside' Naruto. It'd be illogical to think that he wasn't aware of what was happening inside Naruto, especially since he must have seen Itachi stuff the bird (no [dirty] pun intended) in Naruto's mouth.

But he wouldn't have all his knowledge of genjutsu and such, nor his own honed ninja senses, just Naruto's.

Naruto had to tell him how old he was too.

I think the more the Fox came out, the more aware he became.

Originally posted by King Kandy
And we see that having long term results where in the manga?

?

Still being rebuilt, as each chapter comes out, they have no Kage, and they are in grave danger of another village trying to take out Konoha. Just that, Kishi's writing won't allow for that. 😐

But, somehow, this is NOT a long term effect for you? Are you trolling the thread?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
weird thing is that minato was inside naruto the whole time, well at least a part of his

Teehee.

Madara I believe actually admitted to Naruto that he was only doing what he did for powah, not that he cared about the world.