The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
What is Suigetsu's title anyway? Demon of the Mist? It's not "official" yet.

Originally posted by Q99
The Second coming of the Demon..

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
~ Was Pein's Shinra Tensei that wiped out Konoha larger than the C0 attack of Deidara? Konoha seems big, but I don't think it has a diameter of 20 km.

Originally posted by Q99
The Second coming of the Demon.

He did get it for butchering a class of *students*.

Oh right. shitsux for Suigetsu though, he's lost his sword, and he's taken captive (not that Samurai could hold him anyway biscuits

Originally posted by Kento
I think they were pretty close in size.

Konoha's big, yes, but 20 km across? Does Kishi give a size in any of the databooks?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Konoha's big, yes, but 20 km across? Does Kishi give a size in any of the databooks?

i like hows kishi throws these twists in thee story it makes things interesting who would have thought that things would turn out like this in part 1

Originally posted by Kento
Not that I know of. Though after going back to look, C0 is probably a bit bigger...

Damn right it is 313. Sucks that it was a suicide blast though, because an attack like that is hax.

~ Anyone wonder if Sasuke's Susano'o will gain the Totsuka sword and the Yata Mirror from Itachi now that he has EMS?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Damn right it is 313. Sucks that it was a suicide blast though, because an attack like that is hax.

~ Anyone wonder if Sasuke's Susano'o will gain the Totsuka sword and the Yata Mirror from Itachi now that he has EMS?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Damn right it is 313. Sucks that it was a suicide blast though, because an attack like that is hax.

~ Anyone wonder if Sasuke's Susano'o will gain the Totsuka sword and the Yata Mirror from Itachi now that he has EMS?

I don't think so. He's got his arrow ones. Besides Sasuke's hax enough without a shield that can deflect any attack...

Originally posted by King Kandy
I'm sure it will, he manifested the complete Susanoo momentarily without EMS, i'm sure he would have gotten both already if he hadn't overused it so much.

Originally posted by Kento
Wonder if he could make a clone, and let it use C0. Like the exploding one that Kakashi had to stop.

I don't think so. He's got his arrow ones. Besides Sasuke's hax enough without a shield that can deflect any attack...

If he makes the clone use C0, he'd have to get out of range as well, which gives the enemy enough time to run away. I suppose that's why such a huge range attack like that is a suicide attack. He could find a way to limit the vertical range of the clone's blast mmm

True. Without the Yata Mirror, it'd at least make sense if Naruto breaks through the defense of Susano'o.
If Itachi couldn't transfer the items through that poke, the eye transfer should have transferred them IMO, assuming the items are tied to Susano'o.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
If he makes the clone use C0, he'd have to get out of range as well, which gives the enemy enough time to run away.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
True. Without the Yata Mirror, it'd at least make sense if Naruto breaks through the defense of Susano'o.
If Itachi couldn't transfer the items through that poke, the eye transfer should have transferred them IMO, assuming the items are tied to Susano'o.

Originally posted by Kento
Eh, after giving Sasuke his own version of Susanoo, it would be dumb to give him Itachi's version suddenly. And I don't really think changing eyes would give him Itachi's MS techniques, least isn't said while MS has been hinted at having different abilities depending on the person.

In the words of the Sasuke haters, Kishi gives Sasuke power-ups left and right vin

Yes, it would be dumb.
Though once again, the items themselves aren't unique to Itachi's Susano'o, as they were acquired by Itachi somewhere down the line; which means that either:
a) they can be transferred, or were already transferred to Sasuke,
or
b) they disappeared when Itachi died.

He already has Itachi's MS techniques. He's displayed Amaterasu, and he must have Tsukiyomi, since one cannot awaken Susano'o without those two.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
In the words of the Sasuke haters, Kishi gives Sasuke power-ups left and right vin

I'm going to keep going on record, I don't think the only reason Sasuke has those abilities is because of Itachi's transfer. Madara sounds like he's familiar with all of the jutsus, and i'd guess other MS users besides Itachi have displayed them. The names keep in theme with Izanagi, which we know existed earlier than Itachi.

Originally posted by Kento
😛 Exactly.

Bah, it's not like Naruto hasn't received power-ups left and right 😛.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I'm going to keep going on record, I don't think the only reason Sasuke has those abilities is because of Itachi's transfer. Madara sounds like he's familiar with all of the jutsus, and i'd guess other MS users besides Itachi have displayed them. The names keep in theme with Izanagi, which we know existed earlier than Itachi.

Definitely. More than 2 users have displayed Susano'o according to Madara's words, which means that more than 2 people have access to Tsukiyomi & Amaterasu.

By extension, I think that most MS have those three, and Kakashi having a different ability is the exception, not the rule.

I still don't believe he has Tsukiyomi.
Amaterasu in one Eye
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v49/c463/8.html
But uses other eye to use Enton.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v50/c464/

One just needs to have both eye techniques to use Susanoo. He doesn't need Tsukiyomi too, and those are two eye techniques.

He's used a genjutsu from his right MS though.

Thought this was rather cool:

http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs25/f/2008/084/b/3/Sasuke_vs_Itachi_by_Kuroi_Tsuki.jpg

Yea, but that doesn't mean it was Tsukiyomi. Madara even calls it a weak genjutsu. As does Danzo.

Haha that is amusing.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He's used a genjutsu from his right MS though.

Thought this was rather cool:

http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs25/f/2008/084/b/3/Sasuke_vs_Itachi_by_Kuroi_Tsuki.jpg

To Kento: It was a weak Tsukiyomi. Just like how when he first used his Susanoo it was weak enough for Raikage to beat up.

That isn't the first time he used a genjutsu from his MS though when fighting Danzo.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
In the words of the Sasuke haters, Kishi gives Sasuke power-ups left and right vin

- he was given countless jutsu throughout the years from the genius ninja itachi

- he was given the curse mark from orochimaru

- he was given the mangekyo sharingan (and all the tie-in powers from it grew just cause he has a gar factor like the hulk for some reason, not through elective training like naruto has to go through for his major power-ups)

- he was given EMS from tobi

i give him full credit for learning chidori and expanding on it, and his speed seems to be from intensive training, but his major abilities were surprise gifts.

if he never met oro...just think about the rest of his fighting career after that.

naruto has training arcs, sasuke.... sasuke just learns new moves like a pokemon