The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by Kento
😛 Can't beat somebody fairly when they are specifically trying to not kill you just talk you into coming back.

Eh, but he only won because Oro chose to not kill him when he could have. Kinda a plot device.

Raiton being able to null Doton attacks is just weird.....Kakashi being able to stab through Kakuzu just because he used Doton armor is just as bad as Sasuke nulling all of Deidara's attacks. Mainly cause Kakashi should've been able to cut through anyway no matter what jutsu was used, weak against or not.

Naruto wanted to break every bone in Sasuke's body so he did beat Naruto fairly. 😛

Oro could have killed him, but he would not have killed him; that's another thing that Sasuke also exploited. Not a plot device. 😛

Meh, we already knew that Raiton would be strong against Doton, and besides, Deidara did state that that was his weakness.
While the thing did seem like a plot-device, Sasuke having Raiton was established in Part 1, and Raiton being strong against Doton was established some chapters back. At the very least, it was a well-used one, and the weakness was something Sasuke had to figure out. If it failed, he stated he had a back-up; Kirin.

http://manga.bleachexile.com/naruto-chapter-306-page-3.html

I've always been curious as to what Sasuke actually did there....cause I don't believe it was Sai.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
http://manga.bleachexile.com/naruto-chapter-306-page-3.html

I've always been curious as to what Sasuke actually did there....cause I don't believe it was Sai.

Flame jutsu probably.

Originally posted by Q99
Flame jutsu probably.

When was it confirmed that Sasuke was gay?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Naruto wanted to break every bone in Sasuke's body so he did beat Naruto fairly. 😛

Oro could have killed him, but he would not have killed him; that's another thing that Sasuke also exploited. Not a plot device. 😛

Meh, we already knew that Raiton would be strong against Doton, and besides, Deidara did state that that was his weakness.
While the thing did seem like a plot-device, Sasuke having Raiton was established in Part 1, and Raiton being strong against Doton was established some chapters back. At the very least, it was a well-used one, and the weakness was something Sasuke had to figure out. If it failed, he stated he had a back-up; Kirin.

Eh, Sasuke, and everybody claims he won that fight though when he didn't win the fight. He lost the battle, the sharingan just kept Oro from fully taking over his body.

Doesn't make Raiton > Doton any less plot device. And yea it was established when Kakashi stabbed through Kakuzu, but that still doesn't make any sense. No other elements null an element it has an advantage over. Except well Suiton does put out a Katon but....water puts out fire anyway.

I think we hate Sasuke to much to seperate logic from bias as far as feats go. If you hate Sasuke, his feats are pis based. If you like Sasuke, he's a total badass who's earned his vitories albeit.

this is according to whom? mmm sasukes my favorite character! n_n

Well, I for one am not supportive of Sasuke's vitories. But I'm certainly praisin' gawd for vitory. (Paraphrase from The Grapes of Wrath.)

Originally posted by AthenasTrgrFngr
this is according to whom? mmm sasukes my favorite character! n_n

I would call Kishi a bad writer because of this since I feel like he'll keep the cool internet tough guy aspect to sasuke and the goofy ninja to Naruto. Leaving the fans to like whoever they think has the better traits.

Originally posted by killermover
Thus proving my point, you can't like a character and like his progress at the same time.

I can and do like both Sasuke's character and progression. 😐

Originally posted by killermover
I think we hate Sasuke to much to seperate logic from bias as far as feats go. If you hate Sasuke, his feats are pis based. If you like Sasuke, he's a total badass who's earned his vitories albeit.

Originally posted by Kento
😕 I like Naruto (sorta) but that doesn't mean I don't think most of his wins are PIS lately... Hating Sasuke has nothing to do with why I think his wins are PIS....

Informed ability /=/ Actual ability.

Originally posted by Kento
But Sasuke was trying to kill, Naruto had to hold back. 😛 Not to mention Sasuke not being koed and Naruto was by the same attack when Sasuke was the one getting his butt kicked most of the time is just eh.

Eh, Sasuke, and everybody claims he won that fight though when he didn't win the fight. He lost the battle, the sharingan just kept Oro from fully taking over his body.

Doesn't make Raiton > Doton any less plot device. And yea it was established when Kakashi stabbed through Kakuzu, but that still doesn't make any sense. No other elements null an element it has an advantage over. Except well Suiton does put out a Katon but....water puts out fire anyway.

Naruto never held back for most of the fight. Why do you think he went Kyuubi-mode anyway? 😛
Besides, in the end, Sasuke held back and never killed Naruto. 😛

The fight was for Sasuke's body, which Sasuke retained control over, so Sasuke did win the fight. The only reason you may think Sasuke never won was because the fight had special circumstances.
The Sharingan didn't do everything. Kabuto stated that Sasuke's will destroyed Oro's dimension. 😬

It's much less plot-devicey than Kirabi just happening to have a perfect counter to genjutsu. Or Raikage being immune to genjutsu thanks to his Raiton shroud.

We've only seen Raiton-Doton collide anyway. We have yet to see what happens when other elements collide with their superiors.
When Fuuton and Raiton collide, Fuuton will likely null Raiton as well, provided the jutsu are on the same scale.

Originally posted by killermover
Sasuke's wins are just as PIS as Naruto's or anyone elses. You just don't like him thats all. After all, Sasuke is a genius not a underdog. Plus Sasuke's fighting growth is based on how talented he is, which is what everyone who fights him states.

Kirabi's 'win' against Kisame was so full of PIS, that I wanted to cry. 😐 Probably the largest amount of PIS I have ever seen in a Naruto fight, barring Naruto-Pein perhaps.

That said, Sarutobis do not need PIS/HAX to win, unlike the other clans and their members. excellent

Killerbee should have just beat up Kisame... the whole Samehada bit was unneeded (though Bee looks awesome with Samehada).

Spoiler:
Kisame gets blown off, Bee reveals that he is a spy from Akatsuki.
Samehada separates from Kisame and sticks to Bee and tries to merge with him and forge an understanding with him (Samehada just goes "Gigigi.."😉
Kisame is a little shaky after being separated from Samehada. He escapes into the water and grabs Samehada's tail and uses it to suck Bee's chakra.
The rest realise this and try to intervene, but Kisame has already returned to his original form.
The subordinate (TN: Konoha guy?) uses Hijutsu: Ishihari (secret technique: stone needles), throwing a kunai attached by a string of sorts to try and block off the flow of chakra, but instead gets his chakra sapped too.
Guy brings a rain of kicks down on Kisame but Kisame manages to use Suikoudan no Jutsu (water shark bullets) to create an opening for himself to escape.
After being told by Bee's friend that once Kisame leaves the barrier they won't be able to sense him, Guy opens the Keimon (6th gate) of his 8 inner gates. (Spoiler provider says s/he isn't very sure but at this point, all the gorillas in the forest are shocked by it, lol)
Bee transforms his arm into his Hachibi form and throws Guy, who has opened the Keimon, in the direction where Kisame escaped to.
Bee is giddy after having his chakra sapped, and he collapses, but says that he'll be back in a jiffy.
Naruto and Yamato are still in the waterfall. Yamato makes a splint for Naruto who has sprained his ankle.
Guy has been thrown and does a Kuchiyose mid-air and calls forth his turtle, and uses the turtle's back as a stepping stone to leap towards Kisame.
Kisame gives a scroll containing information to a shark he had summoned by Kuchiyose no Jutsu.
In order to let the shark escape, he uses Suiton: Senshokuzame (thousand feeding sharks) to call forth a large number of sharks, and lets the original shark slip into their midst.
Guy says that he can't let it get away, so he uses Asajukaku (morning peacock), a flurry of punches with his fist (a taijutsu wherein the speed with which his fists are moving creates friction with the air and creates sparks so when he hits the air he can send a shock wave of fire towards the enemy), to get rid of the sharks, but there are too many of them left in the water so he decides that he needs to attack on a greater scope and opens the Kyoumon (7th gate).
Seeing this, Kisame says that although this is the 3rd time he's seeing this, it's rare to see a shinobi this strong in taijutsu, and that Guy is truly like a rare animal.
Guy says that the next jutsu will not be able to compare to the previous one, because this one will be a 1-hit-k.o. The blue chakra surrounding him pushes away the water.
The chapter ends with Kisame using Suikoudan no Jutsu and Guy releasing his Hirutora (noon tiger).

Originally posted by killermover
Sasuke's wins are just as PIS as Naruto's or anyone elses. You just don't like him thats all. After all, Sasuke is a genius not a underdog. Plus Sasuke's fighting growth is based on how talented he is, which is what everyone who fights him states.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Naruto never held back for most of the fight. Why do you think he went Kyuubi-mode anyway? 😛
Besides, in the end, Sasuke held back and never killed Naruto. 😛

The fight was for Sasuke's body, which Sasuke retained control over, so Sasuke did win the fight. The only reason you may think Sasuke never won was because the fight had special circumstances.
The Sharingan didn't do everything. Kabuto stated that Sasuke's will destroyed Oro's dimension. 😬

It's much less plot-devicey than Kirabi just happening to have a perfect counter to genjutsu. Or Raikage being immune to genjutsu thanks to his Raiton shroud.

We've only seen Raiton-Doton collide anyway. We have yet to see what happens when other elements collide with their superiors.
When Fuuton and Raiton collide, Fuuton will likely null Raiton as well, provided the jutsu are on the same scale.

Sasuke has no will. He's been manipulated by two different people, so what does Kabuto know. 😆 😛

Eh Killer Bee being actual good at controlling chakra should've been able to get out of genjutsu himself, besides since Gaara arc we knew people could break other people out of genjutsu. And was that stated?

We've seen Doton wall split a Suiton wave to protect a person, and Suiton whirlpool put out a Katon fireball. But those are also kind of...duh..even if the element blocking or what is the superior one. Water puts out fire, and a huge piece of rock is going to divert water. Wind is really the only element never to be used against another element.

This is Sasuke, his attacks can't be nullified.

Originally posted by Kento
He went Kyuubi mode because Sasuke stabbed him in the lung. 😛 Death or Kyuubi.

Originally posted by Kento
Yea I don't like him. I don't like Kakashi but I'm not going around saying his fights are filled with PIS.