Originally posted by NemeBro
Kabuto didn't bring back Hidan. Since Hidan is, you know, still alive. 😐
I think he was in one of the coffins when Kabuto first showed Madara the Edo Tensei bodies.(I'll find scans of this)
And as for the Haku thing, why the hell is he back but not Kisame: Kabuto has to know he's dead by now right?
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I think he was in one of the coffins when Kabuto first showed Madara the Edo Tensei bodies.(I'll find scans of this)
No, he wasn't.
And as for the Haku thing, why the hell is he back but not Kisame: Kabuto has to know he's dead by now right?
I'm guessing he prepared all of these first and hasn't yet had a chance to prepare one for Kisame.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelWell the other hosts can be explained by Madara not having those Biju. I assume he is actually going to put the Biju's powah into the hosts so they will have their former power. Or maybe he won't? 😐
Kisame
Jiraiya
Konan
Yahiko
Kushina(and probably a dozen other former hosts)
And probably a dozen other Kage(minus Konoha)Just a few that should be there but aren't. >_>
Gaara did seem to retain his full powers after the Shukaku was extracted.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I think he was in one of the coffins when Kabuto first showed Madara the Edo Tensei bodies.(I'll find scans of this)And as for the Haku thing, why the hell is he back but not Kisame: Kabuto has to know he's dead by now right?
Nope. He isn't in the 6th coffin either, because I doubt Madara would crap his pants at seeing Hidan's somehow resurrected body. Plus, you know, Hidan is still alive. How the hell do you resurrect a person who is currently alive?
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Kisame
Jiraiya
Konan
Yahiko
Kushina(and probably a dozen other former hosts)
And probably a dozen other Kage(minus Konoha)Just a few that should be there but aren't. >_>
That said, if Kisame were resurrected so soon after his death, it would kinda dilute the impact of his actual death.
Though another Gai vs. Kisame fight might be epic.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Well the other hosts can be explained by Madara not having those Biju. I assume he is actually going to put the Biju's powah into the hosts so they will have their former power. Or maybe he won't? 😐Gaara did seem to retain his full powers after the Shukaku was extracted.
I thought it would be possible, but I doubt Madara would remove the Beasts from Gedo Mazo after going through so much trouble to put them in there in the first place.
Originally posted by King KandyLike what, Sasuke hiding behind Susanoo all the damn time or Naruto blasting the crap out of his shield with his Meancing Ball? I think is obvious, Naruto has the better jutsu and techniques. All Sasuke has a MS, B rank raiton and a Hawk Summon. Unless EMS gives Saske roid rage or some god modded creature than eats Bijuus for breakfast, i don't see much potential in this fight.
Somehow I seriously doubt one of the final and most important fights will be one sided and lacking in strategy. Likely it will be 30 chapters and more convoluted than you can believe.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Personally I would say current Madara is probably the only character currently stronger than Pain was....... Him and the Tsuchikage. 😐 Like wtf?Yeah, technically Hinata has not had anything to show she is "weak," and that is because she has for all intents and purposes had absolutely nothing to really show her abilities. 😐 She has only fought Neji and Pain. Neji being one of the strongest Genin at the time, only Gaara was definately stronger, and Pain is one of the strongest ninja EVAR! So yeah, Hinata is pretty much an unknown. 😐
Tsuchikage could take out all the other Villages if he planned his attack well enough. He could drop the Island Turtle on Villages if he wanted. awesome
An unknown that is shown to be 'weak' is still weak until proven otherwise. Even though her 2 opponents were so ridiculously strong that she could not do anything against them, it still speaks volumes about her level.
Even with some Hyuuga techs and the Byakugan, I doubt she'd be above the likes of Sakura in combat.
Originally posted by killermover
Like what, Sasuke hiding behind Susanoo all the damn time or Naruto blasting the crap out of his shield with his Meancing Ball? I think is obvious, Naruto has the better jutsu and techniques. All Sasuke has a MS, B rank raiton and a Hawk Summon. Unless EMS gives Saske roid rage or some god modded creature than eats Bijuus for breakfast, i don't see much potential in this fight.
Actually I think you might be right there. Unless Sharingan had some way of controlling Bijuu of course. Like if Sasuke had already pwned the Kyuubi before or something.....
Originally posted by killermover
Like what, Sasuke hiding behind Susanoo all the damn time or Naruto blasting the crap out of his shield with his Meancing Ball? I think is obvious, Naruto has the better jutsu and techniques. All Sasuke has a MS, B rank raiton and a Hawk Summon. Unless EMS gives Saske roid rage or some god modded creature than eats Bijuus for breakfast, i don't see much potential in this fight.
Or Sasuke could win like last time and prove you wrong. AKA the outcome I'd love.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixTsuchikage does seem to be really friggin strong. 😐 I love how whenever Blax doubts a character, they turn out uberhax. First Madara, now Tsuchikage... Next, Hinata? 131
Tsuchikage could take out all the other Villages if he planned his attack well enough. He could drop the Island Turtle on Villages if he wanted. awesomeAn unknown that is shown to be 'weak' is still weak until proven otherwise. Even though her 2 opponents were so ridiculously strong that she could not do anything against them, it still speaks volumes about her level.
Even with some Hyuuga techs and the Byakugan, I doubt she'd be above the likes of Sakura in combat.
Don't assume I am taking killermover's side you insolent pile of filth. estahuh
😛
Am just saying, she is shown to be below two ridiculously strong opponents by a considerable margin. Does not make her "weak." Would still put her above Ino. 😐 Who has had one fight against part 1 Sakura, who was garbagecakes. Would admit based on evidence Hinata is below most of the Konoha 11.
Nah current Sakura is one of the strongest children kunoichis in the manga, highly doubt Hinata is her level. By feats, Sakura is actually above guys like Rock Lee and Neji. 131
Originally posted by NemeBro
Well the other hosts can be explained by Madara not having those Biju. I assume he is actually going to put the Biju's powah into the hosts so they will have their former power. Or maybe he won't? 😐Gaara did seem to retain his full powers after the Shukaku was extracted.
Even still, we know there were other hosts before Gaara. And it's not unlikely that the same was for other villages, considering the history for the Cloud and Leaf. If were going to overpower our army, let's not hold back!!!
Or Kishi couldn't think of that many characters. That's fine too.
Originally posted by killermoverHe has MS, which gives him Amaterasu, a very powerful Ninjutsu, Tsukiyomi, a very powerful Genjutsu, and Susanoo, which basically makes you an invulnerable wall who can fight back. Sasuke himself is very fast and good at Taijutsu, and his Raiton is A rank btw. Not counting his variants and shit like Kirin. Not even counting EMS, which will prolly prove haxness.
Like what, Sasuke hiding behind Susanoo all the damn time or Naruto blasting the crap out of his shield with his Meancing Ball? I think is obvious, Naruto has the better jutsu and techniques. All Sasuke has a MS, B rank raiton and a Hawk Summon. Unless EMS gives Saske roid rage or some god modded creature than eats Bijuus for breakfast, i don't see much potential in this fight.
Sasuke is not, nor was he ever weak.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixI think it's obvious no one can defeat Human Pain and the other Pains in a fair fight. Shria Tensei is the strongest jutsu in the manga and if Pain were serious about killing Naruto, he would have done it by now in that fight.
Current Madara probably can, given that he shares the same abilities plus Izanagi & Time-space hax. 🙂
Also, a handful of ninja can likely beat Deva Path one-on-one, before he has a chance to bust out CT.
Case-in-point, Naruto. (even if there was a bit of PIS involved)
Maybe, but until it is shown, it won't change the fact that her abilities so far haven't proven to be anything spectacular. She makes Konohomaru look naturally gifted...actually he is more gifted than she is. Bad comparison. Lee's a better example.You can honestly say the same for the other rookies not named Team 7 and Shikamaru. Hinata of all people went up against the stronget of the strong in her fighting prowess. You can't tell me other ninja's would fair as good in her place, especially Sakura and the other kunoichis. Hinata's true potential is still unknown. Because Kishimoto likes the taste of NaruSasu baby batter in his mouth.
Stop overestimating her because you like her so much.Dude, you have no proof Hinata is a weak as you say she is. Stop underestimating her.
Cry moar.Sasuke last I checked, didn't ****ing do anything to Raikage, and got pwned. Sasuke stood their like a lost lamb and god chuck norrised by the Raikage. Sasuke lost his physical competance the second he lost the CS. Now he's just a lamer version of Gaara.Also, MS and incomplete Susano'o helped Sasuke against Raikage. Last I checked, Raikage's physical stats were way beyond Sasuke's.
Also, Sasuke can suppress the Kyuubi's power with just his base Sharingan. stoned
Sasuke can surpress a half portion of the Kyuubi chara, not the full creature. Not even Madara can do such a thing without a seal
Originally posted by NemeBro
Sasuke is not, nor was never weak.
A triple negative!? You're a madman!
Originally posted by killermover
I think it's obvious no one can defeat Human Pain and the other Pains in a fair fight. Shria Tensei is the strongest jutsu in the manga and if Pain were serious about killing Naruto, he would have done it by now in that fight.You can honestly say the same for the other rookies not named Team 7 and Shikamaru. Hinata of all people went up against the stronget of the strong in her fighting prowess. You can't tell me other ninja's would fair as good in her place, especially Sakura and the other kunoichis. Hinata's true potential is still unknown. Because Kishimoto likes the taste of NaruSasu baby batter in his mouth.
Dude, you have no proof Hinata is a weak as you say she is. Stop underestimating her.
Sasuke last I checked, didn't ****ing do anything to Raikage, and got pwned. Sasuke stood their like a lost lamb and god chuck norrised by the Raikage. Sasuke lost his physical competance the second he lost the CS. Now he's just a lamer version of Gaara.
Sasuke can surpress a half portion of the Kyuubi chara, not the full creature. Not even Madara can do such a thing without a seal
1. Shinra Tensei is arguable weaker than what Onoki's attack can supposedly do. Chibaku Tensei may be stronger than it though. Onoki will just dunk it though so it doesn't matter.
2. Pain allowed Hinata to even be in his presence and Neji was savoring the moment. They both could have ended her before she could even do anything.
3. Prove Hinata is strong. Feat wise, she is lacking....quite a lot.
4. Sasuke took off his arm and is so much stronger than Gaara it's silly.
5. Good thing Naruto doesn't have the full Kyuubi.
Originally posted by killermover
Like what, Sasuke hiding behind Susanoo all the damn time or Naruto blasting the crap out of his shield with his Meancing Ball? I think is obvious, Naruto has the better jutsu and techniques. All Sasuke has a MS, B rank raiton and a Hawk Summon. Unless EMS gives Saske roid rage or some god modded creature than eats Bijuus for breakfast, i don't see much potential in this fight.
WUT?
B-rank Raiton? lulz.
Don't forget a Raiton tech that would end nearly anyone without hax like Izanagi/Space-Time warping or insane defense like Susano. Naruto has neither of those right now.
Or the fact that Sasuke has suppressed the Kyuubi's power with his Base Sharingan. 😐
well, I'm sure Naruto will figure out a way to avoid having Sasuke suppress the kyuubi's power. but yeah, Naruto has the better jutsu and has sage mode too to back up his physical abilities.
man, talk about a crazy chapter. didn't expect Kabuto to bring back all of those people. they really do have a war on their hands now.