The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by Demonic Phoenix1,600 pages
Originally posted by killermover
And how does he accomplish this, especially when Pain is faster and more powerful than he is.

Pain has as far as I recall, only demonstrated the ability to hover. He cannot Shinra Tensei Island sized things. Onoki throws the Island Turtle on him and one-shots him. kruemelmonsteryn0

Originally posted by killermover
How, Raikage was to fast for his sharingan to keep up.

Nope. Sasuke, hell, Juugo & Suigetsu as well, had little to no problems keeping up with the Raikage. It's only after A powered up to counter Amaterasu that Sasuke had a little trouble following him.
Like Aura said, he easily dodged the Raikage's elbow strike.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Do not forget the awesome leadership of Kakashi!!!

I prefer dark hair. And yes I would flirt with her and then save her. And then kill her father offscreen to become commander. 😛

Kakashi cannot even lead Sasuke, nor can he be Hokage. He cannot lead! ahah
His division will still do well though, coz he's ossum like that.

Dun care about the hair, because Temari's hair is ridiculous. It's her legs man, her legs.
Onoki would throw the Island Turtle on you if you killed his son. 😛

So is Madara just going to teleport over to the island where Bee and Naruto are or what? I 'mean he should know where it is right now so what's keeping him?

Also, this has been asked before but did Tsuchikage really lift that turtle; that's too good a strength feat for "Naruto" IMO

Originally posted by Q99
Still, there's going to be some branch/styles of jutsu that can handle long range well at reasonable levels. Water or earth with a specialty in projectiles...?

Heck, there's always Tenten style weapon mastery.

Fulfilling the requirement to join shouldn't be a problem, they're 1/5th the main force after all.

Perhaps, but IMO, if you are above-average in your area, but not exceptional, long-range will be the hardest to fight in. You need strategy and enough speed to keep away from people who might want to get in close. Temari can just blow people away before they get close, which is why she's good at Long-range.

Also, stuff like Water/Earth fits into close/mid-range IMO. Fire is about the only element that fits into mid/long range, primarily because it can be blown out at such a high speed.

If you know how to use Chakra Flow, you can do what Darui does, and charge your shuriken with Raiton chakra.

Tenten's style mastery is good, but IMO, that falls into the exceptional category.

Originally posted by Q99
With all the Inuzuka, I'm picturing them doing a lot of fast attack.

I thought Special Ops would involve stuff like tracking, finding best routes to attack and so on, in addition to lending a hand with combat also.

Originally posted by Q99
Mifune himself I figure is pretty badass, but the named ninja we know are fairly straitforward and there's no other jonin-types in the four we know.

Kurenai isn't in the war right? I wonder if she's still pregnant.
Also, now that Naruto & Killerbee are in Kumogakure, will they get to fight in the War? Naruto likely will, as he wants to face Sasuke.

Originally posted by Q99
Kurotsuchi *and* Kamui are there 🙂

You mean Karui. 😛

That said, Karui's got a pretty good face IMO, but meh, I wish Samui were there as well. She's more hawter, and she's got a cool-headed demeanor to boot. That's like Gaara and a younger version of Tsunade rolled into one. awesome

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
So is Madara just going to teleport over to the island where Bee and Naruto are or what? I 'mean he should know where it is right now so what's keeping him?

Also, this has been asked before but did Tsuchikage really lift that turtle; that's too good a strength feat for "Naruto" IMO

They'd know immediately if Madara popped up on the Island Turtle, because I assume it still has that barrier around it. Also, even if he does have the Rinnegan, he'd still be in a heck of a fight against the Jinchuurikii of the two most powerful Tailed Beasts.

Speculation can only answer this so far. It is too good a strength feat for a 'Naruto' ninja. IMO, it was a combination of strength and his Flight Technique.

why do you peeps think it's so absurd that a Kage used strength to lift the turtle?

Becuase its so unbelivably above anything else in the manga. He'd literally be stronger than every other character combined. In one arm. It is absurd.

Heck, you could probably add Bleach characters into that mix. It's that overpowered.

^ Pretty much. If he were the Jinchuurikii of the Jubi or something like that, it would be understandable, but Onoki is a regular ninja.

Even if it is a combination of his flying ability and strength, it's still quite apparent that a large percentage of the feat, was strength-based because the nin that greeted him upon his return were annoyed or shocked that he overexerted himself. Also, i think that if it were his flying technique, they would have mentioned it in some fashion. The fact that they went out of their way to have 4 or so different people mention that he was "carrying the island" makes me believe Onoki used mostly (if not, complete) strength in the feat.

Originally posted by killermover
Pain cpacitated the Kyuubi, a being so strong that it destroys islands like that with his tails. Pain could do the same. Pain also has shared vision so his awareness in increased ten fold. Madara had to take the rinnegan from Nagato in order to match his power. That is why Pain called himself god. 😮‍💨

She came as far as most others would. Human Pain basically made a mockery out of everyone he fough sans Naruto. It doesn't change the fact she has yet to have a honest fight against a opponent not ungodly strong and superior to even ninja's beyond Kages.

And thats the problem, she has little screen time or feats to showcase.

I'm pretty sure Naruto and Lee could rival them to.

1. You mean he incapacitated less than half of the Kyuubi right? Since Naruto only has half its chakra and Pain only captured the six tails. At least read the manga you love to talk about so much. Oh, and the Kyuubi has never destroyed an island with one of its tails. 😐 Nor been implied to be able. Pain could maybe destroy an island with Chibaku Tensei... Maybe. Pain called himself God because he was a deluded little emo who was in reality nothing more than Madara's little pawnbitch. Madara gave him the Rinnegan, used him, took it back, and killed the only person willing to screw his malnourished body. BUT I DIGRESS. Madara has all the abilities he had before, plus the Rinnegan. So, if he has all of Pain's abilities like he implies, he is stronger than Pain. And the point was Shinra Tensei is not the strongest attack in the manga... Hell, Chibaku Tensei was better.

2. WHICH IS WHY SHE COULD STILL BE WEAK. Hinata has never even been implied to be all that strong in combat.

3. EXACTLEH! Glad you agree. =D

4. Naruto is a maybe, but I doubt it, in pure Taijutsu anyway. Rock Lee? No. 😐

Originally posted by marwash22
Even if it is a combination of his flying ability and strength, it's still quite apparent that a large percentage of the feat, was strength-based because the nin that greeted him upon his return were annoyed or shocked that he overexerted himself. Also, i think that if it were his flying technique, they would have mentioned it in some fashion. The fact that they went out of their way to have 4 or so different people mention that he was "carrying the island" makes me believe Onoki used mostly (if not, complete) strength in the feat.
That alone would make Onoki THE most powerful Naruto character.

He could nonchalantly physically one-shot every Naruto character, and overpower them all at the same time with one hand.

It is INCREDIBLY absurd compared to every other strength feat in the manga.

Also, Karui (Who is hotter than Samui), Kurotsuchi, and Hinata in one team?

Would want that team. 😐

Itachi is awesome.

Though Sasuke has his moments...

Originally posted by NemeBro
That alone would make Onoki THE most powerful Naruto character.

He could nonchalantly physically one-shot every Naruto character, and overpower them all at the same time with one hand.

It is INCREDIBLY absurd compared to every other strength feat in the manga.

Also, Karui (Who is hotter than Samui), Kurotsuchi, and Hinata in one team?

Would want that team. 😐

eh. *shrug*

what exactly is the technique that allows Onoki to fly? He can transfer it to people, so if it wasn't a pure strength feat, he must be able to transfer the effect to inanimate objects as well.

So 7 gates apparently leaves Gai pretty fawcked over. He is still showing some pretty bad after effects from it. I can see why he doesn't use it often.

He recovered pretty well after using 6 Gates though. Such a huge jump between 6 & 7. Then again, after 8, you die...

That said, Lee would die after opening 6 or 7 Gates. biscuits

6 maybe not. 7 might not kill him either. He'd need to be pretty lucky though.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
1. Dun care cause:

It was 'greatest strength feat' we were discussing, not 'greatest strength feat by a ninja' 313

Manda V2 is still a lot less massive than the Turdle.

We are not talking about that.

I am talking about ninja's.

You are talking about all stuff.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
2. Nope, wasn't me. Punching Kabuto put no stress on his back, and neither did raising his arm when he was giving Akatsuchi flight.
Akatsuchi later states that Onoki overexerted himself from carrying that Turtle all the way to Kumogakure.

And he carried it with is fair dust jutsu.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
3. Still lifting, even if it is with apparent TK/suspension. He had to lift it at some point. 131

No it's not.

It's the difference beween 20 watts and 30,000,000,000 watts of physical force.

Green Lantern is not very physically strong (compared to his companions) but he can lift lots and lots of stuff.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
4. Onoki > Naruto and you know it. Naruto would have gone bye-bye if it were not for Akatsuchi. vin

Naruto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Onoki. ( think I'm missing one ">"😉

Originally posted by dadudemon

And he carried it with is fair dust jutsu.

Prooooooooooooof!????????????!!!!!

Onoki is allegedly far stronger than Naruto, regardless of carying the turtle island.

Originally posted by dadudemon
We are not talking about that.

I am talking about ninja's.

You are talking about all stuff.

We were discussing the 'greatest strength feat' ergo, I'm right, you're wrong.

Srsly tho, Naruto has the greatest strength feat for a ninja (albeit while amped), while Manda has the greatest strength feat period.

Originally posted by dadudemon
And he carried it with is fair dust jutsu.

You have no proof. Neither do I. The fact still remains that he overexerted himself from the stress the turtle put on his back, suggesting that there was some lifting involved.

[QUOTE=13064369]Originally posted by dadudemon
[B]No it's not.

It's the difference beween 20 watts and 30,000,000,000 watts of physical force.

Green Lantern is not very physically strong (compared to his companions) but he can lift lots and lots of stuff.

I was being a smartass, but meh.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Naruto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Onoki. ( think I'm missing one ">"😉

If you were talking about stupidity, or young age, then you'd be right in your observation that Naruto > Onoki.

Otherwise, it's Onoki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naruto in combat & strength and overall badassery. Plus Onoki's a Kage, while Naruto is not, and never will be, since he knows he will die against Sasuke. 313

nobody here knows what oniki's powers even are yet.