The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by Demonic Phoenix1,600 pages

Originally posted by dadudemon
1. Doesn't count cause:

Manda V2 is not a ninja.

Manda V2 his ginormous: on scale with the Turdle (teehee).

2. Was it not you that suggested that it was the mere action of lifting his arm that was putting the stress on his back? That's what I think it is.

3. Nah. He's not lifting it: he's suspending it with a magical suspension jutsu and transporting it. It's more like TK than lifting.

4. Don't you dare say stuff like that! NARUTO 4 EVAR!!!!!!!!!

1. Dun care cause:

It was 'greatest strength feat' we were discussing, not 'greatest strength feat by a ninja' 313

Manda V2 is still a lot less massive than the Turdle.

2. Nope, wasn't me. Punching Kabuto put no stress on his back, and neither did raising his arm when he was giving Akatsuchi flight.
Akatsuchi later states that Onoki overexerted himself from carrying that Turtle all the way to Kumogakure.

3. Still lifting, even if it is with apparent TK/suspension. He had to lift it at some point. 131

4. Onoki > Naruto and you know it. Naruto would have gone bye-bye if it were not for Akatsuchi. vin

Originally posted by Q99
Let's say you're a ninja in the army, somewhat above-averagely strong but not majorly exceptional.

Which divisions would you most and least like to be in?

Most: Close-range/mid-range.

Least: Long-Range.

IMO, you need to be exceptional to excel at Long-Range, or at least, really skilled in your forte (like Temari's fan, or Gaara's sand), i.e. Long-Range is a harder area to master.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

Most: Close-range/mid-range.

Least: Long-Range.

IMO, you need to be exceptional to excel at Long-Range, or at least, really skilled in your forte (like Temari's fan, or Gaara's sand), i.e. Long-Range is a harder area to master.

Mm, I'd think there'd be plenty of chunin with good long-range fire or wind releases.

Long range'd be one of my most-wanted, since with Gaara, Temari, and Shikamaru, the division's in good hands. That or close range, since the close range batch is pretty strong too, though odds of injury is higher.

Mifune's special ops division is the one I'd be most worried about being in.

Going based on who'd be in the group with me, most certainly would go with Division 3 for Close/Midrange. Two insanely strong taijutsu users, a a very skilled medic, and Kakashi's leadership. Would be awesome.

Intel company would be my least favorite. Tenga would force me to kill him out of wanting him to shut up.

Special Ops doesn't seem that bad in my opinion.

Close range group does have Kurotsuchi though....

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

Close range group does have Kurotsuchi though....

And if she and her grandpa have Kekkei genkai, probably so does Kitsuchi.

Originally posted by Q99
Mm, I'd think there'd be plenty of chunin with good long-range fire or wind releases.

Long range'd be one of my most-wanted, since with Gaara, Temari, and Shikamaru, the division's in good hands. That or close range, since the close range batch is pretty strong too, though odds of injury is higher.

Mifune's special ops division is the one I'd be most worried about being in.

Wind is great for close to mid-range though. Most do not seem very long-range in my opinion, not unless it is something 'extreme' like FRS, or Temari's jutsu or Danzou's Fuuton jutsu amped by the Baku.

Dunno about Special Ops. Mifune may not seem like much of a stealthy dude, but that's only because we know next to nothing about him.

If we were to pick our divisions based on who is in them, I'd still want to be in Close/Mid Range. Just like Aura said, there's Lee & Gai, and Sakura, one of the best Medic-nins in Naruto-verse, and a fairly good taijutsu specialist to boot.

I wouldn't want to be in Mid-range, as it jumps out as the least impressive division to me, for some reason. Though Darui being the General could be hilarious, and there's Tenten.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Close range group does have Kurotsuchi though....

Long range has Temari. estahuh

Besides, would you really put the moves on a kunoichi in your division, when her dad is your general? 😛
Best wait until the war is underway; look for an opportunity to save Kurotsuchi from some kind of trouble, and earn your general's gratitude/recognition. That way, you get a sexy chick, and honours, all with one stone. 😛

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Wind is great for close to mid-range though. Most do not seem very long-range in my opinion, not unless it is something 'extreme' like FRS, or Temari's jutsu or Danzou's Fuuton jutsu amped by the Baku.

Still, there's going to be some branch/styles of jutsu that can handle long range well at reasonable levels. Water or earth with a specialty in projectiles...?

Heck, there's always Tenten style weapon mastery.

Fulfilling the requirement to join shouldn't be a problem, they're 1/5th the main force after all.


Dunno about Special Ops. Mifune may not seem like much of a stealthy dude, but that's only because we know next to nothing about him.

With all the Inuzuka, I'm picturing them doing a lot of fast attack.

Mifune himself I figure is pretty badass, but the named ninja we know are fairly straitforward and there's no other jonin-types in the four we know.


If we were to pick our divisions based on who is in them, I'd still want to be in Close/Mid Range. Just like Aura said, there's Lee & Gai, and Sakura, one of the best Medic-nins in Naruto-verse, and a fairly good taijutsu specialist to boot.

Yea, though there's only one Sakura and I assume Medic Company'll be around to help everyone.

Character wise it's them, second, and fourth who have strong mixes.


Besides, would you really put the moves on a kunoichi in your division, when her dad is your general? 😛
Best wait until the war is underway; look for an opportunity to save Kurotsuchi from some kind of trouble, and earn your general's gratitude/recognition. That way, you get a sexy chick, and honours, all with one stone. 😛

Kurotsuchi *and* Kamui are there 🙂

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
If we were to pick our divisions based on who is in them, I'd still want to be in Close/Mid Range. Just like Aura said, there's Lee & Gai, and Sakura, one of the best Medic-nins in Naruto-verse, and a fairly good taijutsu specialist to boot.

Long range has Temari. estahuh

Besides, would you really put the moves on a kunoichi in your division, when her dad is your general? 😛
Best wait until the war is underway; look for an opportunity to save Kurotsuchi from some kind of trouble, and earn your general's gratitude/recognition. That way, you get a sexy chick, and honours, all with one stone. 😛

Do not forget the awesome leadership of Kakashi!!!

I prefer dark hair. And yes I would flirt with her and then save her. And then kill her father offscreen to become commander. 😛


Kurotsuchi *and* Kamui are there 🙂

And Hinata. I'd make it my mission to show her exactly what she can do to prove her worth for Naruto.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

And Hinata. I'd make it my mission to show her exactly what she can do to prove her worth for Naruto.

Would there be handcuffs involved?

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The way I see it, they've got three Jonin, one a Kage's bodyguard and the other said bodyguard's father, plus two other notables (Kamui is likely pretty skilled, judging by how Team Samui did against Naruto & co. in their minor scuffle). That beats even team 3's two jonin and two notables, though admittedly said jonin are two of the most badass.

Or, one could always go for the team with a Kage if one wanted to hide behind his sandy, sandy shield and his sister.

Itachi, Sasori, Chiyo, The Kage's, Madara and the other Akatsuki members... shinobi alliance is gonna get wtfpwned.

At the last page, it seems like Kabutomaru and Madara has the army of Zetsus with them.

It's gonna take a miracle for the Shinobi Alliance to win this war.

That or a really good book.

Originally posted by Astner
Back on topic, overall a decent chapter I suppose. Naruto start going uphill as soon as Naruto gained control of his powers.
Thats because the manga's about to end.

Originally posted by Q99
Would there be handcuffs involved?

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The way I see it, they've got three Jonin, one a Kage's bodyguard and the other said bodyguard's father, plus two other notables (Kamui is likely pretty skilled, judging by how Team Samui did against Naruto & co. in their minor scuffle). That beats even team 3's two jonin and two notables, though admittedly said jonin are two of the most badass.

Or, one could always go for the team with a Kage if one wanted to hide behind his sandy, sandy shield and his sister.

Yes. And whips.

It's worth noting that no one in close range has demonstrated the medical advantage Sakura provides, whereas Kakashi's Ninja Hounds can satisfy the scouting abilites that the Byakugan supplies Division 2. Only thing Division 2 demonstrates more of is ninjutsu skills(not including Kakashi of course). But Division 3 certainly provides better Taijutsu, due to Gai and his awesomeness.

His sister is Shikamaru's woman unfortunately. And I'd value Kakashi's leadership skill over Gaara's, due to experience and what not.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. The Tsuchikage just lifted the ****ing turtle island and can apparently destroy it. 😐 Konan created a ****ing miles long crater of paper, which did not have to be paper tags, and anyone but Madara would have been ****ed regardless. Madara is basically Pain now, plus EMS and Time Space hax.
Pain cpacitated the Kyuubi, a being so strong that it destroys islands like that with his tails. Pain could do the same. Pain also has shared vision so his awareness in increased ten fold. Madara had to take the rinnegan from Nagato in order to match his power. That is why Pain called himself god. 😮‍💨

2. Most would be crushed, yeah. Does not prove she is strong either.
She came as far as most others would. Human Pain basically made a mockery out of everyone he fough sans Naruto. It doesn't change the fact she has yet to have a honest fight against a opponent not ungodly strong and superior to even ninja's beyond Kages.

And you need to stop overestimating her since she has done NOTHING to suggest she is particularly strong.
And thats the problem, she has little screen time or feats to showcase.

3. The Raikage is by far one of the best Taijutsu specialists in the manga. 😐 Killer Bee and Gai are the only ones that come to mind that rival him in that regard. Nearly anyone would have been physically hopeless against him.
I'm pretty sure Naruto and Lee could rival them to.

Pain incapacitated the Kyuubi, a being so strong that it destroys islands like that with his tails.

Only half actually.

Originally posted by killermover
I'm pretty sure Naruto and Lee could rival them to.

Rival them or rival Sasuke? Naruto maybe, due to increased speed and strength. Lee? Would not hold a candle to Bee, Raikage, or Gai. Sasuke probably surpasses Lee physically as well.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Onoki destroys Human Path when he gets near it and then splits Fat pain in half with a sense. And then nuke.
And how does he accomplish this, especially when Pain is faster and more powerful than he is.

While Sakura is indeed one of my favorites(though, I will always prefer Kushina and Chiyo) she had nothing in part 1 to suggest she could really preform well against Hinata, much less Neji. And Gaara crushes Neji in Part 1.
Gaara crushes Neji how, Neji has the power to cut chakra in half, if he cuts off Gaara and his sand sheild with his jyuuken, it's over for Gaara before he goes full tailed beast.

I honestly don't care if she got unlucky. So did Sasuke, but he managed to do just fine.
You're comparing a main character a side character. A main character who's not only hyped as a geniys prodigy but as a powerful ninja due to having a superior bloodline than the Byukugan.

Choji was instrumental in Pain's defeat actually. More so than most. And Hinata couldn't beat Jirobo either so...point?
Chouji was crying like a ***** while father and Kakashi were doing all the work and then was told to deliever a message to Tsunade. He was just as useful as Hinata was to Naruto when she confronted Human Pain and decided to blind side him to protect Naruto which she succeeded by making Naruto escape via emotional rage.

An anime feat is not really a true feat. And both Lee and Tenten have won a fight(also, both could likely beat Hinata)
Who did they win against again? Lee last I checked only pwned Sasuke in unofficial fight and thats it even though Sasuke was underdeveloped at that time. Lee never won a fight against someone cannon wise. Neither did Ten Ten.

Sasuke can react to both and why shouldn't he use Susano'o? If A didn't have his Raiton shield, Sasuke would have already killed him.
How, Raikage was to fast for his sharingan to keep up.

Gaara crushes Neji how?

By literally doing so.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v28/c248/13.html

Originally posted by killermover
And how does he accomplish this, especially when Pain is faster and more powerful than he is.

By being allegedly more powerful due to his attack(at best, only Chibaku Tensei rivals it) and superior strength. And actually while flying, he may be quite a bit faster than Pain.

Gaara crushes Neji how, Neji has the power to cut chakra in half, if he cuts off Gaara and his sand sheild with his jyuuken, it's over for Gaara before he goes full tailed beast.

Simple logic. Part 1 Gaara was doing fairly well against Kimmimaro and Neji nearly died fighting Kidomaru, who is vastly weaker. Not to mention, Shukaku would crush Neji(Not that he'd really need it.)

You're comparing a main character a side character. A main character who's not only hyped as a geniys prodigy but as a powerful ninja due to having a superior bloodline than the Byukugan.

A bloodline which he was unable to use in his preliminary fight. While drained of chakra and fighting a very powerful opponent who could drain even more chakra. Not my fault that he is more skilled than Hinata.

Chouji was crying like a ***** while father and Kakashi were doing all the work and then was told to deliever a message to Tsunade. He was just as useful as Hinata was to Naruto when she confronted Human Pain and decided to blind side him to protect Naruto which she succeeded by making Naruto escape via emotional rage.

Yeah. His only father died protecting him and he crys? Wuss. By blind side, you mean kill him from behind like a ninja would instead of leaping out heroicly. Without Choji, they would not have beaten Pain.

Who did they win against again? Lee last I checked only pwned Sasuke in unofficial fight and thats it even though Sasuke was underdeveloped at that time. Lee never won a fight against someone cannon wise. Neither did Ten Ten.

Give you a hint: Rescue the Kazekage arc.

How, Raikage was to fast for his sharingan to keep up.

Which is why he could dodge his elbow amirite?

Originally posted by Nephthys
By literally doing so.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v28/c248/13.html

Whoops, part one Gaara.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v24/c215/19.html

There.