Hmm, you admit that you're approximating the size though. Anyone think of a way we could work it out provably?
He appears to feel some strain from holding it up (in his back). But that could just be from holding his arms upwards or something. Even so, it either points towards insane physical strength or Chakra strength.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Hmm, you admit that you're approximating the size though. Anyone think of a way we could work it out provably?
Seems to be rather accurate though.
Then again its more impressive than Hulk's feat in Secret Wars II.
1.5 * 10^11 tons (presumably metric? If not Hulk's feat is even less impressive in comparison).
Not only that, it was done causally with one hand.
Originally posted by Astner
OK, so I thought I'd demonstrate the calculation method from the KMC wiki for the turtle in the recent Naurto chapter carried by the Tsuchi-kage.Before I'll do this I'll just say that the number will end up in the range 10^11 - 10^12 tons.
[b]Given
[list][*] Island turtle's length, tail to nose: Island visible on a semi-continental map approx. 10^4 [m]
[*]Adult testudo (tortoise) length, tail to nose: 0.35 [m]
[*]Adult testudo mass: 7 [kg][/list]Find
Island tortoise mass [kg]Solution
Assume that the two tortoise have equal density for each finite volume element (If the small tortoise consist of 80% water, so should the big one--basically that it's nothing but a difference in volume).Apply the deduced formula.
Answer
1.16*10^14 [kg]. Around the weight of the worlds largest mountains.
Though the real question is whether he carried its full weight or used some jutsu. [/B]
Checks out to me. 10km sounds like a fair estimate for the length.
Also, that would be low-end because the island has an entire ecosystem on it. (it's not just comprised of the tortoise.) so that makes the feat even better.
However, he was raising the island with his "fairy dust" technique. It wasn't strength.
That would be a quick fight.
Itachi uses Tsukiyomi.
Neji's Byakugan dispells the genjutsu!
Itachi uses Amatseratu.
It's super effective! Neji has fainted!
Originally posted by dadudemon
However, he was raising the island with his "fairy dust" technique. It wasn't strength.
What would you make you think that, out of curiosity? The island was physically touching his hand, and he was complaining about the strain on his back.
Originally posted by dadudemon
However, he was raising the island with his "fairy dust" technique. It wasn't strength.
You're just saying that because you want Naruto to have the greatest strength feat estahuh
Srsly though, he likely was using strength, or at least, a combination of both. His 'fairy dust' tech allows one to fly on their own, but he still had to support the Island. Plus those other ninjas state that he is carrying the Island.
I just thought of something. Why doesn't Nagato just bring himself back to life now that he has an Edo Tensei body? granted that he'll be missing an eye but at least he'll be his own person.
Also, I don't really see the 5 countries winning even with turtle-lifting man and Raikage: at least not with PIS. C'mon, Sasori and Chiyo are on the same team and they have Asuma. What the hell?
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I just thought of something. Why doesn't Nagato just bring himself back to life now that he has an Edo Tensei body? granted that he'll be missing an eye but at least he'll be his own person.Also, I don't really see the 5 countries winning even with turtle-lifting man and Raikage: at least not with PIS. C'mon, Sasori and Chiyo are on the same team and they have Asuma. What the hell?
Choji is bigger than all of them.
I would think Pein needs his actual body to resucitate.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkai like asuma as much as the next guy, but he's inconsequential as far as power goes
I just thought of something. Why doesn't Nagato just bring himself back to life now that he has an Edo Tensei body? granted that he'll be missing an eye but at least he'll be his own person.Also, I don't really see the 5 countries winning even with turtle-lifting man and Raikage: at least not with PIS. C'mon, Sasori and Chiyo are on the same team and they have Asuma. What the hell?
none of the shinobi allegiance have powerful sealing techniques to get rid of the shitload of immortal kage and akatsuki fighters, matterfact, all of madara/kabuto's troops are expendable (except sasuke) and can most likely be simple regenerated on the spot
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
You're just saying that because you want Naruto to have the greatest strength feat estahuhSrsly though, he likely was using strength, or at least, a combination of both. His 'fairy dust' tech allows one to fly on their own, but he still had to support the Island. Plus those other ninjas state that he is carrying the Island.
Why, yes...yes to the first part. 😐 I ain't gonna lie. uhuh
And, no, he's not physically (or literally, however you want to say it to mean that he did not pick up the island a la superman returns) lifting the island for several reasons:
1. That small little hand on that one tiny spot on the whole tortoise? His hand would punch through the shell and into the guts of the tortoise.
2. He just "touched" the others and they started to float. I would like to think his "fair-dust" jutsu is more like a negative energy field that slowly dissipates. Since the tortoise island is so large, the dissipation occurs too rapidly for it to keep itself floating on it's own so he has to remain in constant contact with the island to keep it floating. This is almost a completely baseless assumption on my part, however...but it makes sense on how an old man, whose back and hips crack so horribly when he gets up that he can't move, can lift a medium sized island. To make it make even more sense: there's a threshold for a surface area for his fair-dust tech.
Also, did he call it something or are we going to continue calling it the fairy-dust jutsu?
Originally posted by dadudemonYou forgot the most obvious thing that supports he was using the Fairy Dust jutsu.
Why, yes...yes to the first part. 😐 I ain't gonna lie. uhuhAnd, no, he's not physically (or literally, however you want to say it to mean that he did not pick up the island a la superman returns) lifting the island for several reasons:
1. That small little hand on that one tiny spot on the whole tortoise? His hand would punch through the shell and into the guts of the tortoise.
2. He just "touched" the others and they started to float. I would like to think his "fair-dust" jutsu is more like a negative energy field that slowly dissipates. Since the tortoise island is so large, the dissipation occurs too rapidly for it to keep itself floating on it's own so he has to remain in constant contact with the island to keep it floating. This is almost a completely baseless assumption on my part, however...but it makes sense on how an old man, whose back and hips crack so horribly when he gets up that he can't move, can lift a medium sized island. To make it make even more sense: there's a threshold for a surface area for his fair-dust tech.
Also, did he call it something or are we going to continue calling it the fairy-dust jutsu?
Kabuto shrugged off his punch and called it weak.
Still assumptions, but it seems more likely, because it would make Onoki physically stronger than the rest of the cast combined.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Why, yes...yes to the first part. 😐 I ain't gonna lie. uhuhAnd, no, he's not physically (or literally, however you want to say it to mean that he did not pick up the island a la superman returns) lifting the island for several reasons:
1. That small little hand on that one tiny spot on the whole tortoise? His hand would punch through the shell and into the guts of the tortoise.
2. He just "touched" the others and they started to float. I would like to think his "fair-dust" jutsu is more like a negative energy field that slowly dissipates. Since the tortoise island is so large, the dissipation occurs too rapidly for it to keep itself floating on it's own so he has to remain in constant contact with the island to keep it floating. This is almost a completely baseless assumption on my part, however...but it makes sense on how an old man, whose back and hips crack so horribly when he gets up that he can't move, can lift a medium sized island. To make it make even more sense: there's a threshold for a surface area for his fair-dust tech.
Also, did he call it something or are we going to continue calling it the fairy-dust jutsu?
Just as well for me; Manda V2 has the greatest strength feat if the Island Turtle lifting thing wasn't actually strength. biscuits
1. This is Naruto-verse, not the Real World. The laws of Physics do not have to be followed for a strength feat to occur. Case-in-point: Sage Mode Naruto stopping a charging 1000+ ton Rhino dead in its tracks, when he really should have been sent flying across Konoha like a pinball.
2. IMO, it could be both strength and his Fairy Dust Jutsu. He was complaining about the stress it was putting on his back, which indicates that there was some degree of lifting.
Though I think your view of his tech seems good enough, given that we know next to nothing about it.
3. It would still count as a lifting feat, because well, he's lifting it, technically speaking. awesome
That said, NemeBro has a point. Not about Kabuto though, since that was a clay clone, and the punch went through him.
It would put Onoki so far beyond Tsunade's & SM Naruto's best strength feats, it's ridiculous.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Just as well for me; Manda V2 has the greatest strength feat if the Island Turtle lifting thing wasn't actually strength. biscuits1. This is Naruto-verse, not the Real World. The laws of Physics do not have to be followed for a strength feat to occur. Case-in-point: Sage Mode Naruto stopping a charging 1000+ ton Rhino dead in its tracks, when he really should have been sent flying across Konoha like a pinball.
2. IMO, it could be both strength and his Fairy Dust Jutsu. He was complaining about the stress it was putting on his back, which indicates that there was some degree of lifting.
Though I think your view of his tech seems good enough, given that we know next to nothing about it.3. It would still count as a lifting feat, because well, he's lifting it, technically speaking. awesome
That said, NemeBro has a point. Not about Kabuto though, since that was a clay clone, and the punch went through him.
It would put Onoki so far beyond Tsunade's & SM Naruto's best strength feats, it's ridiculous.
1. Doesn't count cause:
Manda V2 is not a ninja.
Manda V2 his ginormous: on scale with the Turdle (teehee).
2. Was it not you that suggested that it was the mere action of lifting his arm that was putting the stress on his back? That's what I think it is.
3. Nah. He's not lifting it: he's suspending it with a magical suspension jutsu and transporting it. It's more like TK than lifting.
4. Don't you dare say stuff like that! NARUTO 4 EVAR!!!!!!!!!
