The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by dadudemon
When I saw your post, I made this face:

😬

In fact, here's really what my face looked like:

^ facepalm

Originally posted by dadudemon
*smacks the chalk of his hands*

In other words, wwweeeeheheheeeeeeee!

all that, and then this:

Originally posted by psycho gundam

pein's hands were tied when he got the order to kidnap naruto and not kill him, which he could have done easily. i would have chopped his hands off personally, even kisame agrees

also, note that the six paths are just a jutsu to allow nagato to fight in his condition, nagato has alll of their abilities and more (he just expended a lot of chackra NOT trying to kill his target)

Well, Naruto technically defeated 5 S-Class ninja's, by himself. Those bodies, by themselves, walked all over Konoha like it was nothing.

That really doesn't matter. He still lost in the end. 😬

And, really, there is no indication that Nagato got any slower. He had all of his push powers and agility. In fact, Deva Path's single best agility feat, imo, comes during his fight with Naruto: he did that quick stab the two clones, jump up the air and do a hand stond with his chakra swords, and flip down and land on his feet as the rasenshuriken went right under his feet. Not only was that super cool, it clearly shows how not worn down the body was. Pain's push tech still worked just as frequently, too.

I never said he did, I just pointed out that Pain was pretty ****ed up at that point. Nagato himself was bleeding from the mouth and nose at that point.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v47/c439/7.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v47/c441/2.html

Naruto by contrast was fine.

edit: And don't write off the possibility that he was dulled. I doubt Naruto could of owned him like this beforehand:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v47/c441/12.html

Individually, I'd say most of the non-Deva ones were more like A-class. Very powerful in their specialities but their specialities were all they had.

I'm loling over the Naruto wankage in here. He defeated 5 S-Rank Ninja! I'll just ignore the fact that one of these ninja was defeated by a genin before Naruto even showed up.

Naruto lost and would have been caught it Hinata hadn't intervened. He took down the majority of his opponents, including Deva Path, because of knowledge he had gathered before hand.

Nagato is the enemy, the six paths are a jutsu... beating 5/6ths of the paths, means nothing if you lose in the end, because you're not fighting five opponents, you're fighting one, and you just happened to cancel out various manifestations of him. Its like defeating Manda and then boasting that you've defeated Orochimaru.

If Nagato's eye's are still useable I wonder if his hear is too? Then Zetsu could use it and not even need anymore heart transplant wouldn't he?

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Only the husband of an Uzumaki can become Hokage. Besides, I'll be known as God soon enough. I can in fact wield lightning like Zeus. Servants will flock to me to be used.

Good thing Kabuto really does have an ace up his sleeve. Tall? Blonde? Pretty? Deidara fits all that with ease. And I am exactly smart enough that I don't need to show off my smartness.

It's my world, I can do whatever I want in it.
You're having delusions of grandeur. Sounds like you are already in my genjutsu. Perfect. peaches

Pah, Deidara's weak enough that he was taken out by you, and he's shorter than both you and I are. He doesn't frighten me in the least. I'm thinking of sicking him on you again, but first I'll have to rescue that incompetent fool.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I'm sorry that I worked out my contract to give me more down time than you. Then again, what do you expect? You've got me, guy who can do a number of [b]EVIL things that make the fans cry out. And then we got you, the villain who couldn't even manage to kill a baby. Of course I get what I want.

I'll learn it as soon as Naruto takes care of you for me. Probably won't be too long from now. 131[/B]

Nah, the only evil thing you've done so far was to try and kill Karin, which I suggested in the first place. You were stopped by a pink haired crybaby with AIDS.
Of course I couldn't kill the baby. The tall blonde pretty boy was there. But he isn't alive anymore.

He'll need your help to take care of me, but unfortunately, right now, you know that you're about as useful as I was when I was acting as Tobi. 313

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Sakura having AIDS does not mean I will get it. I have the perfect body so likely I'm too good for AIDS. Besides, I was 12 and at that age a boy must experiment for himself. Much like you probably did with the young sweaty males of the Senju clan. Your brother made fun of you so you killed him and took his eyes for teh lulz.

Spoiler:
I've been aware of this truth for quite sometime. No sense in denying it.

So I doubt you have any women at all, unless they are white Zetsu gone wrong.

Spoiler:
Are the black ones not good enough? I won't judge but that seems odd. Considering how much you fantasize about A.

And I don't believe you could have a number that goes that high.

Edit: *stares at you until you stop existing*

If Itachi got the AIDS, you will too. You know you want to be more like him, which is why you did those things to Sakura in the first place.
No, I took my brother's eyes because, like you, he couldn't stop peeping and experimenting while looking at his brother. 😛
As usual, your eyes fail you. You've seen the room where I keep all those women, but due to your spamming of your MS techniques, your vision was so shitty you couldn't see the women.

Spoiler:
I may fantasize about A, but it was you that couldn't stop touching his manly pecs. You liked that Manhug so much that you asked me to make you another A from a Zetsu clone. Sadly, it had a fraction of the manliness of the original, but your standards are so low, you still loved the clone.

Edit: Such techniques don't work on me, ma boi.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I'm loling over the Naruto wankage in here. He defeated 5 S-Rank Ninja! I'll just ignore the fact that one of these ninja was defeated by a genin before Naruto even showed up.

Naruto lost and would have been caught it Hinata hadn't intervened. He took down the majority of his opponents, including Deva Path, because of knowledge he had gathered before hand.

A genin that happens to be a Sarutobi. estahuh

The Asura was defeated via a cheapshot (Naruto suddenly attacking it while it was going after Tsunade). While it was a very impressive speed feat, it was still a cheap-shot.

He destroyed the Human Path with the Rasenshuriken. Fair.

The Animal Path got taken out via a distraction, but the whole thing was Pa's idea.

He used a complex diversion to destroy the Naraka Path, which I must admit was pretty awesome. Fair.
It's worth noting that had Deva's powers not suddenly returned, he could have been taken out by this diversion as well.

Initially, he beat the Preta Path with a punch after learning that it could absorb ninjutsu. He was later apprehended by the Preta Path thanks to one simple Banshou Ten'in, but he finally destroyed it by being smart and drawing in Natural Energy. Fair.

Deva got taken out after Nagato had just used Chibaku Tensei, along with a host of other jutsu.

So yeah, at least 3 of the 6 bodies were taken out fairly by Naruto. However, he did have prior knowledge of their abilities thanks to Katsuyu, and the help of the Boss & Elder Toads. He also needed their help for summoning his clones. Finally, Deva couldn't even use his powers, and I'm certain that if he could have used his powers from the start, Naruto would never have been able to take out most of those bodies. A Banshou Ten'in is what got him in the arms of the Preta Path in the first place.

Now, if he had to figure everything out like Jiraiya did, he'd have lost easily IMO.

Originally posted by Q99
Individually, I'd say most of the non-Deva ones were more like A-class. Very powerful in their specialities but their specialities were all they had.

Their base stats should also be pretty good, but I doubt it is in a higher class than the Jounins.

IMO, the Asura & Animal Paths might be A+, thanks in part to the Asura's wide assortment of weapons, and the Animal's variety & number of summons that just focused on beating down the opponent. The other three weren't as battle offensive as these two, but the Naraka Path and the Preta Path both had excellent support abilities, so A is fine for them. The Human Path was the one Nagato sacrificed for his Animal Path, so it could be the one he values the least, at least in battle.

But yeah, they certainly are not S rank ninjas. Deva was the only S-rank among them, and he kept up with Sage Mode Naruto.

Madara made it sound like Human Path is used more for information draining than combat.

It does much what Inoichi does to gather information, except that it kills the person after. That's what happened to Shizune.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
It's my world, I can do whatever I want in it.
You're having delusions of grandeur. Sounds like you are already in my genjutsu. Perfect. peaches

Pah, Deidara's weak enough that he was taken out by you, and he's shorter than both you and I are. He doesn't frighten me in the least. I'm thinking of sicking him on you again, but first I'll have to rescue that incompetent fool.

Pfft like genjutsu works on me. Even when you activate your moons eye plan (stupid name by the way), I'll still continue to walk around and do as I please.

Deidara believes I'm dead. Sicking him on me won't help. I'll make him think you're Itachi. And then you will fall to the kryptonite that is blonde hair. I'll even have the Yamanaka clan back him up for good measure. awesome

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Nah, the only evil thing you've done so far was to try and kill Karin, which I suggested in the first place. You were stopped by a pink haired crybaby with AIDS.
Of course I couldn't kill the baby. The tall blonde pretty boy was there. But he isn't alive anymore.

He'll need your help to take care of me, but unfortunately, right now, you know that you're about as useful as I was when I was acting as Tobi. 313

You forgot the part where I left those two guys(forgot their names) behind and constantly attempt to kill my best friends and you for no real reason. I am also rude and pretty damn good at cheating in Yugioh.131

Tobi one shot the 3-tails beast. That is also your best feat. Your worst is the feat where you couldn't kill a baby.313

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
If Itachi got the AIDS, you will too. You know you want to be more like him, which is why you did those things to Sakura in the first place.
No, I took my brother's eyes because, like you, he couldn't stop peeping and experimenting while looking at his brother. 😛
As usual, your eyes fail you. You've seen the room where I keep all those women, but due to your spamming of your MS techniques, your vision was so shitty you couldn't see the women.

Spoiler:
I may fantasize about A, but it was you that couldn't stop touching his manly pecs. You liked that Manhug so much that you asked me to make you another A from a Zetsu clone. Sadly, it had a fraction of the manliness of the original, but your standards are so low, you still loved the clone.

Edit: Such techniques don't work on me, ma boi.

I do not. I want to become strong in my own way and not follow in his footsteps. And I was 8 when I last peeped at my brother, too young to start experimenting. I will not deny however to peeping at the posters of Itachi that Orochimaru had. Then explain why I could not hear the women in your room? Or smell them?

Spoiler:
Is that envy I hear? And you're one to talk. You keep a clone of Hashirama, that Senju filth, and heaven only knows the things you've done to it. Such filth, loving a Senju like that. For shame.

Edit: Did you forget who is using it? My techniques always work. 313

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
It does much what Inoichi does to gather information, except that it kills the person after. That's what happened to Shizune.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
all that, and then this:

pein's hands were tied when he got the order to kidnap naruto and not kill him, which he could have done easily. i would have chopped his hands off personally, even kisame agrees

also, note that the six paths are just a jutsu to allow nagato to fight in his condition, nagato has alll of their abilities and more (he just expended a lot of chackra NOT trying to kill his target)

And yet, Naruto still killed 5 bodies on his own before getting pwned. Despite what you say, Pain was going all out against Naruto (minus Deva Path). He was certainly trying to pwn Naruto in a much more agressive fashion than he did against Jiraiya...and he was trying to kill Jiraiya.

So, the argument that "he was trying to capture Naruto so he was holding back" is simply not true at all. Nothing he did suggests that up until the point that he stabbed through Naruto's hands instead of his heart.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That really doesn't matter. He still lost in the end. 😬

I know, right? Pain lost, in the end. 313

Originally posted by Nephthys
I never said he did, I just pointed out that Pain was pretty ****ed up at that point. Nagato himself was bleeding from the mouth and nose at that point.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v47/c439/7.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v47/c441/2.html

Naruto by contrast was fine.

edit: And don't write off the possibility that he was dulled. I doubt Naruto could of owned him like this beforehand:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v47/c441/12.html

Despite any sort of beat down condition...Deva still has his best agility feats in his one on one with Naruto.

On top of that, Naruto was certainly running ragged: he wasn't in mint condition, either.

Originally posted by Q99
Individually, I'd say most of the non-Deva ones were more like A-class. Very powerful in their specialities but their specialities were all they had.

But the each, individually, rolled over Konoha.

It took a sneak attack to destroy just one of the Pain bodies with 3 A-class+ Ninjas.

Originally posted by dadudemon
On top of that, Naruto was certainly running ragged: he wasn't in mint condition, either.

But the each, individually, rolled over Konoha.

It took a sneak attack to destroy just one of the Pain bodies with 3 A-class+ Ninjas.

Which brings up an interesting question: Why was Naruto in as good a condition as he was in? Going Four tails did one hell of a number on his body. So why didn't going 8?

They had an advantage over Konoha that they did not have over Naruto.

Ignoring the fact that Deva Path is much strong than the other paths which is why Kakashi was defeated?

Originally posted by dadudemon
And yet, Naruto still killed 5 bodies on his own before getting pwned. Despite what you say, Pain was going all out against Naruto (minus Deva Path). He was certainly trying to pwn Naruto in a much more agressive fashion than he did against Jiraiya...and he was trying to kill Jiraiya.

So, the argument that "he was trying to capture Naruto so he was holding back" is simply not true at all. Nothing he did suggests that up until the point that he stabbed through Naruto's hands instead of his heart.

Originally posted by psycho gundam

😉 if this was an online FPS, naruto would have been getting teabagged by some 8 year old a$$hole

and nagato only lost cause he was talk no jutsu'd, he still had a shitload of chackra left (he could have ressurected jiraya if naruto didn't make him expend so much chackra)

King Kandy
Kind of strange, given how its ability is literally a 1-hit kill, I would think that it would actually be among the strongest of the paths. It basically can do the equivalent of the dead demon seal with no preparation and no sacrifice.

Well, melee only power and all. Though also one of the strongest in melee.

Stronger than healer definitely, and probably Preta as well.
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dadudemon
But the each, individually, rolled over Konoha.

It took a sneak attack to destroy just one of the Pain bodies with 3 A-class+ Ninjas.

Several of them were specifically lying low and ambushing people to get info, and most ninja were distracted by the other three. Asura and Deva were close enough to each other that when one was in trouble, others came to help.

And the trio that took down one Pain was one S (Kakashi), one A, and one definitely sub-A. And they were facing an S and probably an A+.

The lesser bodies mostly faced chunins and sometimes a special jonin or two by the looks of it. The only three we saw face a full jonin were Deva, Asura, and Human, and Human path just got Shizune by surprise.

TheAuraAngel
Which brings up an interesting question: Why was Naruto in as good a condition as he was in? Going Four tails did one hell of a number on his body. So why didn't going 8?

Perhaps Sage mode's healing helped negate it?

Originally posted by Q99
Perhaps Sage mode's healing helped negate it?

That's quite a quick bit of healing. To the point where I don't think I could accept it. Sakura was healing him as he laid there, his body literally red from going 4. Sage Mode would be better than normal medical means if it healed that quickly, which I don't believe it is.

Though I will be fair and acknowledge something I just realized: Yamato ripped the Kyuubi's chakra from Naruto like one would rip of a band-aid. Minato merely sealed the Kyuubi's chakra, which is a different process. Still, I think it should have left some indication that it hurt him.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
That's quite a quick bit of healing. To the point where I don't think I could accept it. Sakura was healing him as he laid there, his body literally red from going 4. Sage Mode would be better than normal medical means if it healed that quickly, which I don't believe it is.

Though I will be fair and acknowledge something I just realized: Yamato ripped the Kyuubi's chakra from Naruto like one would rip of a band-aid. Minato merely sealed the Kyuubi's chakra, which is a different process. Still, I think it should have left some indication that it hurt him.

Ah yes, the difference in method might be part of it.

And not just the sage mode afterwards- he still likely had some nature chakra coursing through him from being in sage beforehand. So for at least some of the time he was foxed out, he had nature healing and fox healing instead of just fox healing.

It might've been a combination of factors, and it might've been he wasn't quite as healthy as he looked but sage and stuff let him push through it, and if he had to keep fighting much longer he'd be affected.

Still, him coming out of it ready to fight and such strikes me as a little cheap. I'll agree that the combination of factors may have accelerated the healing, but his body itself should have been worn down, which it didn't appear to be. Even when he was out of Sage Mode he acted normally. It was only after the confrontation with Nagato that Naruto even looked tired.