The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by TheAuraAngel1,600 pages

Time to insert a pretentious opinion of my own on a certain thing Zabuza said that's been irking me. He said there was no heaven or hell, which is completely fine by me if Kishimoto wants to establish that in the Naruto Universe. I honestly didn't care when Death Note did so I don't care here. The problem is Land of Waves is easily one of my favorite arcs in Naruto and the end was very sad. You know, the part where Zabuza wished he could go to the place Haku went when he died and what not. It was touching and the fact that Heaven and Hell don't really exist kinda ruins the mood. Now I understand that Land of Waves was forever ago so keeping the mood for it is far from peoples minds. But it is just glaring to me and it irks me.

When does Zabuza say there's no heaven or hell?

pretty sure zabuza said he was going to hell explicitly, though he wished he could go to where haku was going (fill in the blank)

maybe Zabuza only found out that there's no heaven or hell after he died??

Originally posted by King Kandy
When does Zabuza say there's no heaven or hell?

http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/13991999/15

Well there it seems to indicate there wasn't a heaven or a hell. Since he doesn't remember the afterlife enough.

All we really know is that resurrected don't remember the afterlife.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/13991999/15

Well there it seems to indicate there wasn't a heaven or a hell. Since he doesn't remember the afterlife enough.


Yeah, but that doesn't really prove anything. Zabuza died, and apparently wasn't conscious until he was resurrected. Maybe you aren't conscious in the afterlife, maybe he was still in the process of being brought there, who knows. I don't think we can categorically say that there is no heaven or hell in Naruto.

Maybe everyone just ends up in Naruto's head?

Woot for the new chapter! I like the new KG! Hope this is a fun battle.

As for my previous comment of not keeping with the mood of Land of Waves, throw it out. Kishi made up for it.

And gasp!

Spoiler:
7 Swordsmen?!

Also,

Spoiler:
yay for Suigetsu ad Jugo.

Oh, I also note this answers a question about where a user's gear comes from: It seems to be summoned items rather than copies, as Zabuza's sword has the damage it had sustained since his death.

So much for Haku's mirror techs being "faster than light" or whatever, Gai and Rock Lee intercepted his ass no prob.

the swordsmen can't all have their swords

Killerbee has kisame's
and that one guy has that chakra hammer

the rest of them could've been recovered by Kabutomaru like Zabuza's was

wonder how Kabuto was able to go around and get the swords for the swordsmen. it would have to have taken a while though.

and you can already tell this fight is going to be considerably longer than the one between Kankuro's group and Sasori's group (which isn't really a bad thing).

So, Scorch and Blast. Pretty strong kekkei genkai, pretty much 'you're screwed' buttons for the opposition.

One unknown one left.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
So much for Haku's mirror techs being "faster than light" or whatever, Gai and Rock Lee intercepted his ass no prob.

He wasn't traveling between mirrors at the time.

Once something leaves 'em, he's interceptable.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
So much for Haku's mirror techs being "faster than light" or whatever, Gai and Rock Lee intercepted his ass no prob.

Yeah, I was just about to point that out. Ice mirrors are hyperbole, I kind of expected that all along.

Unless... Gai is FTL?

Well with 7 gates he's easily multiple magnitudes faster than sound, easily. Dunno about in his base form, though Rock Lee hit him/her too.

Originally posted by Q99
Oh, I also note this answers a question about where a user's gear comes from: It seems to be summoned items rather than copies, as Zabuza's sword has the damage it had sustained since his death.

So Zabuza can get a sword, Deidera can get clay, but Sasori can't get his puppets? What the hell man?

I wonder how fast Haku actually moves in between mirrors anyway?

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
So Zabuza can get a sword, Deidera can get clay, but Sasori can't get his puppets? What the hell man?

The puppets were all claimed by Kankuro and likely under seal.

So similarly, you won't see Samehada as Killerbee has it.


I wonder how fast Haku actually moves in between mirrors anyway?

Really darn fast, remember he intercepted Kakashi mid-raikiri in the first battle.

I would kick Kabuto's ass at checkers.

i bet Guy is gonna die by opening all 8 gates to protect Lee or Kakashi