The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
That fight took place right after Sasuke had just gotten his ass kicked by his big brother. He also lost all his Snake and Cursed Seal techs. All he got in return was a Mangekyou Sharingan with one powerful technique that was later rendered moot against Bee.
So, it makes a lot of sense that Sasuke. It makes even more sense when you consider the fact that right after Sasuke got Amaterasu, he nearly pwned the Hachibi's ass.

Finally someone else realizes that the MS was a downgrade when Sasuke first got it in comparison to his Hebi powers.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I will fully admit to liking Sasuke's character. I do not think he should be completely unbeatable. Makes for an uninteresting character.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

Actually the only reason he survived the Summit was Madara. However, no one could actually survive the Summit by themselves so that really isn't something that discredits Sasuke. He did manage to burn off A's arm and kill Danzo, so he accomplished some things.

A still would've killed Sasuke at that point in time however his victory against Danzo was(more-or-less) legit. Bee would've survived the Kage Summit via Tailed Beast Bomb IMO. Although regarding that event in general I honestly think Sasuke could've taken out either Mei or Gaara had he fought them first based on his performance against A. However that's just me.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Finally someone else realizes that the MS was a downgrade when Sasuke first got it in comparison to his Hebi powers.

Well not really that. If someone were used to fighting a weapon and then you give them a "better" weapon, it would still be awkward for them at first because they aren't used to it.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Meh I don't really see what's to like about Sasuke as of late but people have their favorites I guess. I don't think he's completely overpowered even if he get's something new from EMS.

It's mostly because I'm interesting in seeing what Kishi plans to do. Sasuke is completely out of his mind evil but Naruto remains determined to save him. This both of them dying crap will not fly. Or shouldn't fly rather. Because it would mean Madara wouldn't be the final boss(He should be) and Sakura would become the main character.

Personally, I think it would be cool if

Spoiler:
Naruto ended up dying but managed to save Sasuke and make him the 7th Hokage.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
A still would've killed Sasuke at that point in time however his victory against Danzo was(more-or-less) legit. Bee would've survived the Kage Summit via Tailed Beast Bomb IMO. Although regarding that event in general I honestly think Sasuke could've taken out either Mei or Gaara had he fought them first based on his performance against A. However that's just me.

The Kage would know if the Hachibi was outside. There were a several chakra sensors in that room. Bee is good, but not *that* good. And yeah, Sasuke would have beaten Gaara and Mei. And yet ironically enough, I do consider A to be weaker than both. Maybe not Mei cause she doesn't strike me as someone physically able to deal with A.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Well not really that. If someone were used to fighting a weapon and then you give them a "better" weapon, it would still be awkward for them at first because they aren't used to it.

Yea. When Sasuke first got mangekyo, he only knew how to use it for genjutsu. It's not until he unlocked amaterasu did it really become worthwhile, and only with susano'o did it become a sizable upgrade.

The Kage would know if the Hachibi was outside. There were a several chakra sensors in that room. Bee is good, but not *that* good. And yeah, Sasuke would have beaten Gaara and Mei. And yet ironically enough, I do consider A to be weaker than both. Maybe not Mei cause she doesn't strike me as someone physically able to deal with A.

Mei vs A would be interesting. She's one ninja where the enemy's speed doesn't help against her main attack much.

Mei is a woman.

In Naruto, this means she cannot beat A.

She beat Sasuke. Tsunade beat Orochimaru. Chiyo and Sakura beat Sasori.

Originally posted by Q99
Yea. When Sasuke first got mangekyo, he only knew how to use it for genjutsu. It's not until he unlocked amaterasu did it really become worthwhile, and only with susano'o did it become a sizable upgrade.

Mei vs A would be interesting. She's one ninja where the enemy's speed doesn't help against her main attack much.

Indeed. Really, once his Susano'o reached the level he had in the Danzo fight, Sasuke could probably take most of the Kage on in a one on one fight. Except Onoki.

Conversely, she would not be able to dodge his attacks. And he has quite a lot of pain tolerance compared to Mei who doesn't seem like the damage soaking type.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Mei is a woman.

In Naruto, this means she cannot beat A.

Tsunade would. 313

It is rare for a woman to be a man in Naruto. But it has happened.

Originally posted by Q99
She beat Sasuke. Tsunade beat Orochimaru. Chiyo and Sakura beat Sasori.

Tired Sasuke. Armless Orochimaru. Emo Sasori.

Originally posted by Q99
She beat Sasuke. Tsunade beat Orochimaru. Chiyo and Sakura beat Sasori.

That said, Tayuya beat Shikamaru. So there is one woman victory.

I was exagerrating.

Kind of.

But seriously, women are overall less competent in Naruto.

I think it actually mostly has to do with there being so few girls. A female villain would have helped a lot I think.

Konan was a member of Akatsuki if that counts for anything.

Edo Pakura killed fodder ninja if that counts too.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I think it actually mostly has to do with there being so few girls. A female villain would have helped a lot I think.

Yea, there's just less at each level.

It's cause men have bigger "chakras".

I think it's just because fewer are taught and/or more go in non-combat roles.

There's plenty of female medic nin at the hospital for example, and that doesn't require the kind of combat training a field medic like Sakura and Shizune has. You gotta have chakra-users who can do the job, so anyone with reasonably high control but less interest in the combat aspects likely gets pure medic training.

But you can look over at the Inuzuka clan where we know more female ninja than male ninja. Or Gaara's family, where everyone of either gender is a strong ninja with plenty of chakra (we've never seen Temari or Kankuro run low).

We've also never seen an elemental kekkei genkai user have anything but oddles of chakra, so anyone born with those is fine whichever sex they are.

Originally posted by Darth Angel
Sasuke's fanboysm is strong in here.

Let's face it, both Sasuke and Deidara were low Kage level fighters, while B is mid to high kage level character (I would say mid because IMO high Kage level should be left to a very restrict amount of people).

And so Sasuke had his ass beat by B. So, what's the problem? And the only reason he survived the kage summit was due to Mangenkyo technique's spamming, which made him go blind. Good thing his brother died for him right? So much for Sasuke's power...

Anyway, Sasuke's character was ripped to pieces by his bersek behavior with no viable reason for it. And now it comes the Eternal Mangekyo. Oh God...

Minato might be stronger than Bee. Maybe. Hashirama is also stronger than Bee but he is a cheater. Onoki probably could not fight Bee easily and I don't think he would stand much a chance against Bee personally.

I don't know if Hashirama with no Biju to control is necessarily stronger. I mean, he may be- we just haven't seen him fight much or know many of his techniques.

The problem with that statement is it takes away the only ability Hashirama needs. Cheater though he is, controlling Bijuu is apparently easy for him.

Yes, but it does depend on one being around, and he doesn't always have one around.

Also, conversely, he could have -more than one- around. The more biju, the more fun he becomes 🙂

He will if Bee uses his. He will. Hashirama himself would probably be a strong opponent. He can uses his trees to wrestle with the Kyuubi so I'd imagine after a while, Bee would use his trump card and seal his fate.

That and Bee is known for going all out when excited. Which would likely happen.