The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Of course. Nagato beats up strong people. Sasuke beats up helpless clones. vin
Or you underestimate his love for Water. And Love > Hate nowadays. 😛

Mizukage: Sure, but KSH makes him seem like a badass. 😛

Yah.
Yep. Eh, just Fire shot into the atmosphere and a bit of time. Though he seemed like he was going to use it against Team 7, right after he busted that room.
True, but that would have been over-the-top, considering you feel Flight is out of place. 😛
Gaara sucks as a Jinchuurikii, and Yugito's fight was off-screen. Plus she used a Fire attack that looked a hella lot like a Bijuu Ball.

Same here. He will of course.

Fire+Water of course. He'd rather use bombs than acid, like a true man. 😛

Nagato has yet to beat up Naruto. Sasuke did. vin
If his love for water were that great, he'd dissolve already. 😛

Mizukage: But Kyoka makes him seem like an actual character. 😛

Nah.
Which was odd, considering there was not a cloud in the sky. Unless he could use ground lightning. That would be haxxed beyond belief.

Sasuke is the exception. He could fly long before the others could. 😛
Shikaku didn't use it either. A fire ball huh? Bijuu ball does not look like fire. 😮

Hmmm. If Mei and Suigetsu are both descendants of the previous Kage, Suigetsu might become Mizukage! =D

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Nagato has yet to beat up Naruto. Sasuke did. vin
If his love for water were that great, he'd dissolve already. 😛

Mizukage: But Kyoka makes him seem like an actual character. 😛

Nah.
Which was odd, considering there was not a cloud in the sky. Unless he could use ground lightning. That would be haxxed beyond belief.

Sasuke is the exception. He could fly long before the others could. 😛
Shikaku didn't use it either. A fire ball huh? Bijuu ball does not look like fire. 😮

Hmmm. If Mei and Suigetsu are both descendants of the previous Kage, Suigetsu might become Mizukage! =D

Ah, but Nagato did beat up Naruto, twice. 313
Or evolve into oily water. 😛

Mizukage: As a compromise, I say Kyoka Suigetsu.

Yah.
There were clouds I think, just not low dark coloured ones. Or he could have been forming a one-handed Spirit Bomb awesome

Glide you mean. 😛
I think Hachibi uses one that consists of Lightning Chakra.

Hmm, Suigetsu re-establishing the 7 Swordsmen and becoming a Kage would be l337.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Ah, but Nagato did beat up Naruto, twice. 313
Or evolve into oily water. 😛

Mizukage: As a compromise, I say Kyoka Suigetsu.

Yah.
There were clouds I think, just not low dark coloured ones. Or he could have been forming a one-handed Spirit Bomb awesome

Glide you mean. 😛
I think Hachibi uses one that consists of Lightning Chakra.

Hmm, Suigetsu re-establishing the 7 Swordsmen and becoming a Kage would be l337.

According to the context of the story, Naruto beat Nagato. ^^
He hasn't done that yet either.

Mizukage: But what about his last name? Kyoka Hozuki? 😮

Nah.
Well, it is Sasuke.

I meant what I said. He flies.
Doesn't look like lightning.

And fitting. He is one of the few truly likable characters.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
According to the context of the story, Naruto beat Nagato. ^^
He hasn't done that yet either.

Mizukage: But what about his last name? Kyoka Hozuki? 😮

Nah.
Well, it is Sasuke.

I meant what I said. He flies.
Doesn't look like lightning.

And fitting. He is one of the few truly likable characters.

Which you called bullshit earlier in this thread.
He's half-way there.

Mizukage: Or Grampa Hozuki? What about Hair Oil since that is what his hair looks like? vin

Yah.
Couldn't have put it better myself.

Nah, you meant what I said. He glides.
You miss the Lightning sparks around the chakra ball?

Agreed. Name another one. I say Asuma.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Which you called bullshit earlier in this thread.
He's half-way there.

Mizukage: Or Grampa Hozuki? What about Hair Oil since that is what his hair looks like? vin

Yah.
Couldn't have put it better myself.

Nah, you meant what I said. He glides.
You miss the Lightning sparks around the chakra ball?

Agreed. Name another one. I say Asuma.

Clearly I'm trolling.
So clearly he does not love that much.

Mizukage: Gramps Hozuki? Sure.

Nah.

He is flying. :3
Nope

Her.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Clearly I'm trolling.
So clearly he does not love that much.

Mizukage: Gramps Hozuki? Sure.

Nah.

He is flying. :3
Nope

Her.

You troll most of the time. I was hoping you weren't this time, but it looks like that is not the case. 🙁
On the contrary, if he's half-way there, he loves it. Just a matter of time.

Mizukage: Sweet. Grampa Hozuki it is.

Yah.

Not unless Flying had been changed to gliding in the last 7 years and is now back to flying. dur313
Yeah, you did.

She reminds me of a girl in Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's mmm

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
You troll most of the time. I was hoping you weren't this time, but it looks like that is not the case. 🙁
On the contrary, if he's half-way there, he loves it. Just a matter of time.

Mizukage: Sweet. Grampa Hozuki it is.

Yah.

Not unless Flying had been changed to gliding in the last 7 years and is now back to flying. dur313
Yeah, you did.

She reminds me of a girl in Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's mmm

Why?
But if he loved it, he wouldn't still be there.

Nah.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Cursed_Seal_of_Heaven

Fly and Glide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ml6a--OUdA&feature=related

No, I didn't. 3:20 through 3:40.

I want to see more of her. 😮

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Awesome.

Rankings- I'm thinking of bumping Zabuza back down to A (no plus) again.

Biju- Hachibi has a confirmed draw with an S+ (and physically, not just sealing it). I think Hachibi and Kyuubi should both be added as S+.

Shukaku I'm not sure about. It's powers are similar to Gaara, but it has a lot more chakra and it's also incredibly tough.

Kyuubi is special because it can be controlled with eye powers.

So it has a glaring weakness...not sure how that fairs against others.

However, it took to S ranks to take down the Kyuubi with "mutally assured destruction" so to speak.

Kushina's special chakra was paramount to their victory.

So it's like the Kyuubi is an SS-...but has like 2 extreme weaknesses.

We know the Kyuubi has the most chakra (Jiraiya said so). From what we can tell, it's as strong or stronger than the Hachibi at only 6 tails...and that's at half of it's chakra level.

So it's stupid powerful. If it didn't have those weaknesses, I would put it down as a SS-.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
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Awesome.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Why?
But if he loved it, he wouldn't still be there.

Nah.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Cursed_Seal_of_Heaven

Fly and Glide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ml6a--OUdA&feature=related

No, I didn't. 3:20 through 3:40.

I want to see more of her. 😮

Dunno. Madara is like that. He wants Sasuke to stop trolling himself. vin

Yah.

Naruto wiki is okay for a read but isn't fact and can be editted by anyone. I've seen other BS up there too. Can't recall specifics though. Sasuke cannot fly dude. If he could fly, he wouldn't have had to sacrifice one of those wings just to land a hit on Deidara.

Sure, you didn't miss them in anime. You missed them in the manga. Manga > Anime, and Manga shows Lightning sparks around the Bijuu Ball. kruemelmonsteryn0
That's really why Suigetsu was KO'd by the Hachibi's Bijuu Ball, as opposed to tanking it like that BAMF he is. It was Lightning.

She's a girl less-known than Hinata. Sorry mate, I don't think we'll be seeing her again. 😛 Meh, maybe Shikamaru will grow a pair and ask her out.

Originally posted by Q99
Rankings- I'm thinking of bumping Zabuza back down to A (no plus) again.

Biju- Hachibi has a confirmed draw with an S+ (and physically, not just sealing it). I think Hachibi and Kyuubi should both be added as S+.

Shukaku I'm not sure about. It's powers are similar to Gaara, but it has a lot more chakra and it's also incredibly tough.

Why?

Kyuubi should be a rank higher than the Hachibi IMO. Kyuubi has a weakness to the Mangekyou Sharingan, but as of now, only 5 people have had it along with a handful of others, and only two of those MS users are confirmed to have the ability to pwn the Kyuubi.

As for Shukaku, I'd say S. It took another S rank to put it down, and that was a ninja that could make Shukaku's Sand harder to manipulate. Gaara is also implied to be as powerful as Shukaku when it comes to Sand Manipulation, and while Gaara has his own unique abilities, Shukaku has more chakra, Wind Manipulation, and the Bijuu Ball to balance that.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Kyuubi is special because it can be controlled with eye powers.
So it has a glaring weakness...not sure how that fairs against others.

So it's like the Kyuubi is an SS-...but has like 2 extreme weaknesses.

We know the Kyuubi has the most chakra (Jiraiya said so). From what we can tell, it's as strong or stronger than the Hachibi at only 6 tails...and that's at half of it's chakra level.

So it's stupid powerful. If it didn't have those weaknesses, I would put it down as a SS-.

Eye powers only available to a handful of people, of which only two are known to control it.

Sure, but one of those extreme weaknesses (Kushina) really shouldn't affect the Kyuubi's ranking, seeing as said weakness is exclusive to only one person, while the other weakness is confirmed to be exclusive to two people.

If you wanted to rank current Kyuubi, then I'd be okay with S+. FP Kyuubi should be SS- IMO. Kisame mentions that the Kyuubi would have to be sealed into the Heretical Statue last, so that it could balance out the other 8 Bijuu, or something along that line.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Dunno. Madara is like that. He wants Sasuke to stop trolling himself. vin

Yah.

Naruto wiki is okay for a read but isn't fact and can be editted by anyone. I've seen other BS up there too. Can't recall specifics though. Sasuke cannot fly dude. If he could fly, he wouldn't have had to sacrifice one of those wings just to land a hit on Deidara.

Sure, you didn't miss them in anime. You missed them in the manga. Manga > Anime, and Manga shows Lightning sparks around the Bijuu Ball. kruemelmonsteryn0
That's really why Suigetsu was KO'd by the Hachibi's Bijuu Ball, as opposed to tanking it like that BAMF he is. It was Lightning.

She's a girl less-known than Hinata. Sorry mate, I don't think we'll be seeing her again. 😛 Meh, maybe Shikamaru will grow a pair and ask her out.

Nah. He just doesn't want Sasuke to troll him. And he is about to. vin

Nah,

Kay. Let's go by this then.

Does not look like lightning sparks. And the anime makes it look more clear. And said thing around the ball didn't appear when he used it later. So my guess is, not lightning and doesn't matter.
If it was lightning it would have killed him. 😛

I know. There is something sexy about girls who can crack codes though. awesome

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Nah. He just doesn't want Sasuke to troll him. And he is about to. vin

Nah,

Kay. Let's go by this then.

Does not look like lightning sparks. And the anime makes it look more clear. And said thing around the ball didn't appear when he used it later. So my guess is, not lightning and doesn't matter.
If it was lightning it would have killed him. 😛

I know. There is something sexy about girls who can crack codes though. awesome

Nah, he wants Sasuke to stop trolling himself. After all, Sasuke used Susano'o against a helpless clone. vin

Yah.

Nah. He's back on the ground after that. If he could truly fly, he would have attempted an attack on Deidara. Instead, he must have just jumped up in the air. 😛

Yes it does. At the least, they resemble sparks more than anything else.
No sparks appear in the anime at all, so the anime couldn't possibly make it clearer.
Could be because the Hachibi shot those Bijuu Balls near-instantly, as opposed to charging them like he did against Suigetsu.
Or because he's a BAMF, he got KO'd because it was Lightning. 😛

She has weird glasses though, and strands of hair standing up. 😛

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Nah, he wants Sasuke to stop trolling himself. After all, Sasuke used Susano'o against a helpless clone. vin

Yah.

Nah. He's back on the ground after that. If he could truly fly, he would have attempted an attack on Deidara. Instead, he must have just jumped up in the air. 😛

Yes it does. At the least, they resemble sparks more than anything else.
No sparks appear in the anime at all, so the anime couldn't possibly make it clearer.
Could be because the Hachibi shot those Bijuu Balls near-instantly, as opposed to charging them like he did against Suigetsu.
Or because he's a BAMF, he got KO'd because it was Lightning. 😛

She has weird glasses though, and strands of hair standing up. 😛

No kill like overkill. 313

Nah.

The word fly is used again.awesome
Which means, no sparks in the move. Unless you want to point to where it says the move sounds like lightning. Lightning moves usually come with a sound effect.
Charged up Bijuu balls are known to look like that. Meaning what we have in the case of Bee is an inconsistency. Or it was just something random drawn for aesthetic.
He is really weak to lightning. 😮

I like weird glasses.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
No kill like overkill. 313

Nah.

The word fly is used again.awesome
Which means, no sparks in the move. Unless you want to point to where it says the move sounds like lightning. Lightning moves usually come with a sound effect.
Charged up Bijuu balls are known to look like that. Meaning what we have in the case of Bee is an inconsistency. Or it was just something random drawn for aesthetic.
He is really weak to lightning. 😮

I like weird glasses.

overkilling weak shit = trolling oneself.

Yah.

He figures it out here. vin

Or Manga trumps Anime when differences arise. 😬 Sasuke's Susano'o has been shown with 5 fingers, the Sword of Totsuka, and the Yata Mirror, in the anime.
Can't find a scan with the SFX described.
Nah, they're shown to look like beams or balls...>_____> Plus the first time Hachibi used it as the Beam version, it busted a huge valley filled with mountains.
Drawn for aesthetic makes sense.
He gets paralyzed and cannot liquefy. He doesn't get KO'd.

You're into weird stuff. 😛

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
overkilling weak shit = trolling oneself.

Yah.

He figures it out here. vin

Or Manga trumps Anime when differences arise. 😬 Sasuke's Susano'o has been shown with 5 fingers, the Sword of Totsuka, and the Yata Mirror, in the anime.
Can't find a scan with the SFX described.
Nah, they're shown to look like beams or balls...>_____> Plus the first time Hachibi used it as the Beam version, it busted a huge valley filled with mountains.
Drawn for aesthetic makes sense.
He gets paralyzed and cannot liquefy. He doesn't get KO'd.

You're into weird stuff. 😛

Like what Itachi did to his pet?

Nah.

Since his wings are gone, I see how that matters. 😛

Obviously. But what the manga does is inconsistent with later shots of the Bijuu ball and the anime. Anime plus manga>Manga. 😛
Checkmate.
Without lightning.
Dunno. He seemed pretty out of it before Jugo got him back into the water.

Weirdos are cool.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Like what Itachi did to his pet?

Nah.

Since his wings are gone, I see how that matters. 😛

Obviously. But what the manga does is inconsistent with later shots of the Bijuu ball and the anime. Anime plus manga>Manga. 😛
Checkmate.
Without lightning.
Dunno. He seemed pretty out of it before Jugo got him back into the water.

Weirdos are cool.

A pet that could have pwned Sasuke.

Yah.

One wing is gone. Plus he replaces the lost wing with Snakes. vin

Eh, we've seen the Bijuu Ball fired off as a beam or as a cannon ball, by the Kyuubi. So far, we've seen the Hachibi fire it off in the same ways as well. Later shots of the Hachibi have it as the cannon ball version.
Checkmate due to lack of a scan without the sfx described? Really?
Was fine enough to dodge Bee's Lariat.

Depends on the weirdo.

Kyuubi should be a rank higher than the Hachibi IMO. Kyuubi has a weakness to the Mangekyou Sharingan, but as of now, only 5 people have had it along with a handful of others, and only two of those MS users are confirmed to have the ability to pwn the Kyuubi.

Kyuubi's stronger, but a rank stronger? You think he's up for SS-?

As for Shukaku, I'd say S. It took another S rank to put it down, and that was a ninja that could make Shukaku's Sand harder to manipulate. Gaara is also implied to be as powerful as Shukaku when it comes to Sand Manipulation, and while Gaara has his own unique abilities, Shukaku has more chakra, Wind Manipulation, and the Bijuu Ball to balance that.

I'd think Shukaku's variety of powers there way more than balance out what Gaara brings to the table (in terms of unique abilities, how much does he have? He can use seals in his sand, and more clever trickery, but Shukaku has a lot).

While an S-rank did put him down, we don't know how much help was involved. At minimum there was probably a sealing team.

Eye powers only available to a handful of people, of which only two are known to control it.

Yes. A weakness is not a 'glaring weakness' if almost no one has it. Especially if all those who have it also have extreme power anyway.

Sure, but one of those extreme weaknesses (Kushina) really shouldn't affect the Kyuubi's ranking, seeing as said weakness is exclusive to only one person, while the other weakness is confirmed to be exclusive to two people.

Uh, on Kushina's chakra, you do realize it was never said to weaken Kyuubi or the like, right? It was just supposed to make her a really strong host.

It's not like Wood jutsu, it's not an anti-biju power, the way they talk about it it's more like the same compatibility that Gaara and Bee have. Kushina shouldn't really be on the weakness list.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
A pet that could have pwned Sasuke.

Yah.

One wing is gone. Plus he replaces the lost wing with Snakes. vin

Eh, we've seen the Bijuu Ball fired off as a beam or as a cannon ball, by the Kyuubi. So far, we've seen the Hachibi fire it off in the same ways as well. Later shots of the Hachibi have it as the cannon ball version.
Checkmate due to lack of a scan without the sfx described? Really?
Was fine enough to dodge Bee's Lariat.

Depends on the weirdo.

Not at the time of killing.

Nah.

Kay. Still doesn't mean he can't fly.

See. But we haven't seen that "lightning" since. 😛
Si. :3
But he didn't. 😮

True.