The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by Q991,600 pages

Opinion- Should Danzo with a fully charged Shisui's eye be any higher than S? It is pretty uber, if one-shot in a battle.

It certainly would end most one on one battle. But it isn't very spamable. And seems sorta slow.

Personally, since Sasuke did beat him, I'd say leave him as S. S+ seems a bit much in my opinion.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I didn't properly read the bottom half of your post, so I couldn't infer that you were joking. Mistake on my part I suppose.

Didn't you say you didn't make it halfway through because you thought I was serious? (Meaning, you're forgiven)

I could go back and look one page...but I'm so lazy that I don't even want to do that. I'm burned out on looking up past posts because of Korto Vos. (waaaaah)

Originally posted by King Kandy
I bet Naruto spontaneously gets enough chakra for Kyuubi form and figures out the tailed beast ball rasengan to save them. Sounds like Kishi's style.

I do not doubt. And going by your recent track record of accurate guessing in Naruto, you'll most likely be correct. 😐

But, yeah "ass-pulled" was where I was going with my silly frumunda cheesy dust release. 😐

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Indeed. It wasn't until Gaara was brought. back from the dead that he became suey.

On the topic of Gaara, how the **** did he pull Madara out of the Susano'o? I didn't realize that was even possible!

Respect Gaara's special foot pulling tech.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
It certainly would end most one on one battle. But it isn't very spamable. And seems sorta slow.

Personally, since Sasuke did beat him, I'd say leave him as S. S+ seems a bit much in my opinion.

Yea, but Sasuke beat him when he couldn't really use it.

Ah, but he did. At the end he got it back. He was just too slow to use it on Madara before Sasuke stabbed him. Likely would have happened the same way if he'd tried it on Sasuke. ^^

Though I will give it points for not requiring eye contact.

Originally posted by Q99
Opinion- Should Danzo with a fully charged Shisui's eye be any higher than S? It is pretty uber, if one-shot in a battle.

Hmm, it's hard to say. He wasted his Izanagi just to wait for it to recharge, but lost out because he was too slow in deciding what to do with it & because he was between a rock and a hard place.
Tech is pretty uber. However, it is a one-shot thing, and Danzou does not seem like the kind of guy who can be in a battle for a few hours, not if he's using Izanagi.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Didn't you say you didn't make it halfway through because you thought I was serious? (Meaning, you're forgiven)

I could go back and look one page...but I'm so lazy that I don't even want to do that. I'm burned out on looking up past posts because of Korto Vos. (waaaaah)

Made it almost halfway through. As I was scrolling down, I noticed the word 'fallacy'. 😛

Hmmm

Am I the only one who thinks Onoki might be a bit too high? He was fighting evenly with Mu for a bit but it was clear who had the advantage. Onoki's back is also problematic.

Then again, that is just me. His Dust techs might push him over the edge but he is certainly not as skilled as Mu and lacks in the variety department.

Even though Muu is his superior, I think they are close enough to be the same tier. I have a hard time ranking him lower than S+ when featless wonders like Mito share that tier.

I was considering that too. I dunno about Mito.

I don't think he is that lacking in versatility, either. He was the only kage who could free himself from Zetsu's spores, and the way he busted that clam up recently was pretty impressive. Compared to Muu he uses a lot more earth jutsu so he is actually more versatile in some respects. His back is his main problem.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Hmmm

Am I the only one who thinks Onoki might be a bit too high? He was fighting evenly with Mu for a bit but it was clear who had the advantage. Onoki's back is also problematic.

Then again, that is just me. His Dust techs might push him over the edge but he is certainly not as skilled as Mu and lacks in the variety department.

Dunno about you being the only one who thinks he is too high up in the tier listing, but I'm not with you on that. Not when Onoki can grant flight, vaporize anything physical, and lift Giant Turtles. awesome

Well several characters can fly, his attack can be dodge, and I was under the impression he was making the turtle fly. Though if that weren't the case, him and 2nd Mizukage would be indestructible. 😛

Originally posted by King Kandy
I don't think he is that lacking in versatility, either. He was the only kage who could free himself from Zetsu's spores, and the way he busted that clam up recently was pretty impressive. Compared to Muu he uses a lot more earth jutsu so he is actually more versatile in some respects. His back is his main problem.

But he lacks the chakra sensing, splitting, and most importantly the invisibility. And these seem way more useful than the random Earth techs he uses. 😛

And I wouldn't say that he was the only one. Though not shown, A and Gaara clearly had to get the Zetsu spores off as well. My guess is A had to tear his off while Gaara just did a trick with the sand. Not that getting Zetsu off is much of a challenge. But hey, might run in the family. 😛

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v50/c468/12.html

Do you really need to use the "😛" smilie at the end of every declaration?

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Though not shown, A and Gaara clearly had to get the Zetsu spores off as well. My guess is A had to tear his off while Gaara just did a trick with the sand. Not that getting Zetsu off is much of a challenge. But hey, might run in the family. 😛

Why did I read all of that with a sexual connotation? 😐

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Do you really need to use the "😛" smilie at the end of every declaration?

Meh.

I've gotten used to it...just as they tolerate my sexual jokes which occur every other post. 😐

It's possible that he sticks his tongue out at the end of all those statements...everytime I post "😆", I actually laughed out loud.

lol. . . I'm such a grouch.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Do you really need to use the "😛" smilie at the end of every declaration?

Nope. 😛

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Hmmm

Am I the only one who thinks Onoki might be a bit too high? He was fighting evenly with Mu for a bit but it was clear who had the advantage. Onoki's back is also problematic.

Then again, that is just me. His Dust techs might push him over the edge but he is certainly not as skilled as Mu and lacks in the variety department.

He does have better Earth techniques than Muu. The weight thing, and the fist.

And is simply really really powerful. He and Muu blasted Dust at each other for quite awhile.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I have a hard time ranking him lower than S+ when featless wonders like Mito share that tier.

The thing about Mito is.... she's got Kyuubi-chakra mode like Naruto. That's insanely powerful, as we've seen. So although we don't know a ton, I can't picture anyone with that mode *not* being S+ class.

Plus she's a master Seal user.

We don't have a lot, but what we have puts her at S+.

You can't imagine someone with that not being S+ tier? Yugito actually had a higher level of control and is nowhere near S+. As far as "master seal user", what? Put Danzo at S+ then. Actually, based on that data alone, Danzo would destroy her. Based on that data alone, Yamato would destroy her!

Featless wonder, like I said. Your point is just based on "I can't picture it". Well, you're alone in that regard. I can picture it, and judging from the agreement I get every time I bring this up, most other posters can as well.

You can't imagine someone with that not being S+ tier? Yugito actually had a higher level of control and is nowhere near S+.

Quite frankly, Kyuubi chakra mode as shown has been a lot more useful than a rampaging full transformation, and Mito's was when the Kyuubi was at full power rather than half to boot.

We know Yugito does not have full control. Hers is most likely more like Gaara letting Shukaku taking over than Bee's controlled tactical use. She can transform at will, but she is not a mastered user.

As far as "master seal user", what? Put Danzo at S+ then. Actually, based on that data alone, Danzo would destroy her.

You're arguing that some vacuum jutsu, an elephant summon, and implants is equal to Kyuubi-chakra mode?

"Based on that data alone," is just ignoring the rest of her powers. When rating someone, we take into account all abilities.

Your point is just based on "I can't picture it".

Rather, my point is based on "We've seen this ability, it's uber."

If we're told someone has susano'o, they're S+. I can't picture someone with a full susano'o being less than S+, because even not knowing their particular variant, "We've seen Susano'o. It's uber."

Similarly Dust. If we heard someone else had Dust, I'd rank them high, because "We've seen Dust. It's uber."

We've seen Kyuubi chakra mode, it's uber. We also know she has other strong areas, because, y'know, variety of abilities is part of ratings too. But we've seen the main ability she has. It's uber.