The Official Naruto series Thread

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Originally posted by Q99
The thing about Mito is.... she's done jack shit

Shisui's eye is slow. Izanagi requires slow hand signs. Mito, or rather KCM as Q99 calls it, has displayed speed that would allow her to close the distance and touch him, causing his arm to go crazy. He'll then try to use Koto as a last resort, and she'll outrun it once again to cut his head off.

Well...wait a moment with the Mito hate.

Let's back up.

Naruto has only HALF the chakra of the Kyuubi.

At six tails form, he matched the bijuu blast of the Hachibi in full on 8 tails form.

We already know the Kyuubi has not only the most sinister chakra, but the most chakra out of the bijuu.

Mito had the full power form of the Kyuubi and she got a similar form to Naruto.

She could last twice as long.

Add in that she's not an idiot like Naruto is at times...couple that with the fact that she was Hashirama's wife, and then figure in that she was an Uzumaki (already strong chakra....literally the best sealing jutsu clan around) and she's far from a slouch.

Without the bijuu, her status as an Uzumaki easily makes her an A (sealing, chakra strength, etc.)

Since she was chosen as the host for the Bijuu, she had to be an extraordinary person even by Uzumaki standards. But, to be nice...we'll go with A+ pre-Kyuubi.

Add in the Kyuubi....she's instantly an S+ and she fits there comfortably.

Who from any time can contend with her speed?

Minato, A, the 3rd Raikage, Madara Prime.....? That's pretty much it.

Since she's got double the chakra....that's double the length of time in uber mode.

APPARANTLY, Minato learned the Rasengan from watching Kushina. Now, I think it would be safe to say that Mito had more control than Kushina...maybe not? If so, she's got a bijuu blast for someone's ass.

Anyway, even if she were a B (stupid assumption considering how carefully hosts are chosen...cept Naruto (lulz)), she's still easily and S+ with her bijuu because it's more powerful than Naruto's.

Let's put it this way: Jiraiya almost died against a 4 tails. Shit got real. Full powered Kyuubi in host? GTFO.

**** your posts are very long.

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Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Shisui's eye is slow. Izanagi requires slow hand signs. Mito, or rather KCM as Q99 calls it, has displayed speed that would allow her to close the distance and touch him, causing his arm to go crazy. He'll then try to use Koto as a last resort, and she'll outrun it once again to cut his head off.

How is it slow? You literally made that up. Nobody has ever "dodged" it; she wouldn't even know when he was using it. Handsigns are not slow either, I have never seen anybody get hit because their hindsigns were slow. Any ninja with slow hand signs doesn't survive past genin

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well...wait a moment with the Mito hate.

Let's back up.

Naruto has only HALF the chakra of the Kyuubi.

At six tails form, he matched the bijuu blast of the Hachibi in full on 8 tails form.

We already know the Kyuubi has not only the most sinister chakra, but the most chakra out of the bijuu.

Mito had the full power form of the Kyuubi and she got a similar form to Naruto.

She could last twice as long.

Add in that she's not an idiot like Naruto is at times...couple that with the fact that she was Hashirama's wife, and then figure in that she was an Uzumaki (already strong chakra....literally the best sealing jutsu clan around) and she's far from a slouch.

Without the bijuu, her status as an Uzumaki easily makes her an A (sealing, chakra strength, etc.)

Since she was chosen as the host for the Bijuu, she had to be an extraordinary person even by Uzumaki standards. But, to be nice...we'll go with A+ pre-Kyuubi.

Add in the Kyuubi....she's instantly an S+ and she fits there comfortably.

Who from any time can contend with her speed?

Minato, A, the 3rd Raikage, Madara Prime.....? That's pretty much it.

Since she's got double the chakra....that's double the length of time in uber mode.

APPARANTLY, Minato learned the Rasengan from watching Kushina. Now, I think it would be safe to say that Mito had more control than Kushina...maybe not? If so, she's got a bijuu blast for someone's ass.

Anyway, even if she were a B (stupid assumption considering how carefully hosts are chosen...cept Naruto (lulz)), she's still easily and S+ with her bijuu because it's more powerful than Naruto's.

Let's put it this way: Jiraiya almost died against a 4 tails. Shit got real. Full powered Kyuubi in host? GTFO.


Well Killer Bee without even using his Biju is >>> Kyuubi naruto in strength. So for all your talk that a half-powered six tails is above hachibi, the current form must be practically a dust mite of that power. Even doubling it won't help.

Originally posted by King Kandy
How is it slow? You literally made that up. Nobody has ever "dodged" it; she wouldn't even know when he was using it. Handsigns are not slow either, I have never seen anybody get hit because their hindsigns were slow. Any ninja with slow hand signs doesn't survive past genin

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/13.html

Danzo decides what he plans to do.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/16.html

Danzo is stabbed before he can do what he planned to do.

Shisui's eye doesn't require direct eye contact but it seems to take time to activate. Or else, he would have used it on Madara immediately.

Of course, I personally think she could rip his head off before he removed the bandages.

And in reference to the hand signs thing, they can be interrupted by speed. A has shown the ability to outrun jutsu that don't need hand signs at all. KCM is faster than A.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Dis. Granted, she'd have to touch him. Not too hard in Kyuubi mode.
... The Zetsu clone dying and reverting?

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You think Zetsu are being killed by one punch? 😮

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
You think Zetsu are being killed by one punch? 😮
Er, considering Sakura nearly killed one with a single punch, and she only left him alive for questioning IIRC...

Yes. 😬

The "KYUUBI MODE CANCELS OUT SENJU" bullshit is just that, bullshit without any facts supporting it.

It doesn't cancel it out. Where did you read that? I said Naruto's mode makes Mokuton and Senju cells go batshit.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v54/c505/8.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v59/c559/3.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v58/c545/12.html

They do. And it doesn't take much to make Danzo's join in.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/11.html

Yay more speculation.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/13.html

Danzo decides what he plans to do.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/16.html

Danzo is stabbed before he can do what he planned to do.

Shisui's eye doesn't require direct eye contact but it seems to take time to activate. Or else, he would have used it on Madara immediately.

Of course, I personally think she could rip his head off before he removed the bandages.

And in reference to the hand signs thing, they can be interrupted by speed. A has shown the ability to outrun jutsu that don't need hand signs at all. KCM is faster than A.


Fail on all fronts. I already debunked that "any kyuubi user is faster than A" idiocy so until you actually defend it you following a blind path.

Moving at speeds faster than A is something Naruto did through instinct. Are you suggesting Mito for whatever reason lacks the instinct to run fast? 😮

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Yay more speculation.

It is only spec if it's a guess based on incomplete evidence. There is actually quite a bit of evidence to support this. Enough that even the Wiki seems to accept it. And they were the only ones that got Jokey Boys correct name. ^^'

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
It doesn't cancel it out. Where did you read that? I said Naruto's mode makes Mokuton and Senju cells go batshit.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v54/c505/8.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v59/c559/3.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v58/c545/12.html

They do. And it doesn't take much to make Danzo's join in.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/11.html

Tobi explicitly notes that Danzo can't control Hashirama's cells only because he was so close to death, silly boy.

And you have proven that he can affect Mokuton jutsu by overflowing it.

But Danzo's arm isn't a Mokuton jutsu, I mean, it's not like Yamato was turned into a tree.

Frankly, why is Mito even given a spot? She's so ****ing irrelevant that it seems asinine to even bother including her.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Tobi explicitly notes that Danzo can't control Hashirama's cells only because he was so close to death, silly boy.

But Danzo's arm isn't a Mokuton jutsu, I mean, it's not like Yamato was turned into a tree.

Frankly, why is Mito even given a spot? She's so ****ing irrelevant that it seems asinine to even bother including her.

And he was no where near Naruto, who has quite the effect on Senju cells.

Yamamoto has cells inside him. Danzo's are sewed on. 😛

I dunno. I can see Q99's reasoning and everyone else's. I don't really care if she is on the list. Though I'd bump down Onoki. But that has nothing to do with Mito.

Onoki would effortlessly beat Mito though, based on the arguments for her. :3

She ports behind her.

He breaks his back turning to look at her.

Mito wins. 313


If Kyuubi mode was faster than A automatically, why was A faster at first? Naruto needed to improve to match his speed, the mode didn't automatically grant it. So you have no idea if Mito would be that fast or not.

All he did was focus more chakra into speed, anyone can do that.

And even the base speed was super-high before that.

A couldn't move fast enough to clock Sasuke, why will it work on Danzo?

A clocked Sasuke repeatedly. Neck chop and liger bomber.

He had to rely on Susano'o to not die there.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Moving at speeds faster than A is something Naruto did through instinct. Are you suggesting Mito for whatever reason lacks the instinct to run fast? 😮

Yea. Or hey, maybe the stats are arranged differently... and she's merely not-quite-as-fast (which still makes her crazy fast) but even stronger, or what have you. However they're arranged, they're super-high.

The physical stats are based on the mode, and since she has the full Kyuubi, hers should be if anything overall stronger than Naruto's.

And we know it has so much power that it can make clones with the same stats, and lots of them.

Mito does not know shadow clone jutsu, based on showings.