The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by TheAuraAngel1,600 pages

Because Akatsuki doesn't really want to destroy the villages.

http://www.mangareader.net/93-221-17/naruto/chapter-216.html

Think about it: Akatuski have been revived in this war and are actually doing pretty poorly. And then there is the fact that Itachi wouldn't let them do anything like that.

It's simply something neither Tobi or Nagato even would like to do.

Well the Akatsuki doing poorly now is just due to Kabuto not giving a shit about his Edo Tensei bodies.

Of course they would but I always wondered why the though was never addressed. I mean wouldn't taking villages over make their Jinchuruki hunt easier considering they'd have more land and stuff.

Still be pretty fun to watch them try.

nagato himself can nuke a ninja village using one of his puppets, deidara can casually cripple a village and stomp it's kage/jinchuuriki weapon, sasori soloed a nation for rep, etc

as you can see it's kinda of a plot hole and best left not talked about at length.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well the Akatsuki doing poorly now is just due to Kabuto not giving a shit about his Edo Tensei bodies.

Of course they would but I always wondered why the though was never addressed. I mean wouldn't taking villages over make their Jinchuruki hunt easier considering they'd have more land and stuff.

Still be pretty fun to watch them try.

Exactly. Meaning the Akatsuki actions are their own. The only Akatsuki in a bad position is Sasori.

Nope. Maintaining control over nations is hard to do. 9 people will not be able to do it. Even if they won the battles for the villages, insurgence would eventually happen. 9 people can't keep it going forever. Especially if they have to take 3 days to just sit around.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
nagato himself can nuke a ninja village using one of his puppets, deidara can casually cripple a village and stomp it's kage/jinchuuriki weapon, sasori soloed a nation for rep, etc

as you can see it's kinda of a plot hole and best left not talked about at length.

Nagato lost to the village he nuked, which lacked several advantages that weren't partaking in the festivities. Deidera was even worse off, he had no clay left and was down an arm. And we're not really given much context on the country he pwned. All we know is an old lady and a teenaged girl beat his best technique.

Nah man.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Shizune and Shikamaru? Sakura and Shikaku?

I have a feeling she'd bring one of her apprentices as a treat for them. Sakura is the more likely because Shizune would be busy.

And she'd bring one of the Nara's because they wouldn't make bad guards and have abilities to complement hers. And unlike others, they really would know how to behave themselves.

So maybe Sakura and Shikamaru? I mean yeah, their weak compared to the others maybe but they aren't terrible choices.

Would be lulzy if she brought Naruto and Shikamaru. The Summit would be quite different.

Hm, I don't think Shikamaru or Sakura because, hey, you *do* need strength when stuff hits the fan and those two aren't quite there yet.

Shizune makes sense. Shikaku's pretty good, though I could see wanted to keep an advisor like him safe.

If she could get Naruto to accept a bodyguard role and not a speak-out role (say, if there was a summit on something he didn't have such stake in), he'd be pretty good.

Asuma'd be good back when he was around.

Lesse, how about Yamato? He'd be pretty solid.

Yamato and any one of the 3 elder Inoshikacho's... probably Inoichi.

Ah yes, Inoichi is a sensor. That'd make a lot of sense.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You mean he would think he could bat it away and it would fly right through him as though he were...moving water...right? 🙂

💃

Naw dawg, I mean he would know he that could bat it away because he could bat it away, and he would indeed bat it away because he is a BAMF carrying a Big F***ing Sword.

kruemelmonsteryn0

Originally posted by Q99
Shizune makes sense. Shikaku's pretty good, though I could see wanted to keep an advisor like him safe.

If she could get Naruto to accept a bodyguard role and not a speak-out role (say, if there was a summit on something he didn't have such stake in), he'd be pretty good.

Asuma'd be good back when he was around.

Lesse, how about Yamato? He'd be pretty solid.

These two then. The Kage Summit would be the safest place in the world. 😛

Indeed. But Naruto happens to be in the unique position of being the subject of the meeting in general. It would be impossible to prevent him from saying anything. Granted, Tsunade would probably let him.

Indeed. I'd have picked him over Shikaku if he was alive.

He's preoccupied with being the biggest help to rebuilding the village. I don't think Tsunade would bring him unless she also brought Naruto.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Nagato lost to the village he nuked, which lacked several advantages that weren't partaking in the festivities.
plot no jutsu

he did far better against an amped naruto which also negated another defeat from chackra loss, shit, he got even better thanks to naruto. nagato could have absorbed chackra from gedo mazo and replenished whatever life force loss he gets from nuking hidden villages. in a month the ninja world would be under his heel and he wouldn't have to leave his "couch" in his tree house 😐

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Deidera was even worse off, he had no clay left and was down an arm.
he didn't even bring enough clay as usual (maybe he underestimated the one-tail) and didn't use his full arsenal of far more powerful explosives cause you know, not supposed to kill his intended target/plot. he still could have killed sunagakure if he felt like it after capturing their kage, they're defenseless against him.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
And we're not really given much context on the country he pwned. All we know is an old lady and a teenaged girl beat his best technique.

Nah man.

an old lady that just happened to teach him everything he knows and a little girl who can counter his poisons. they pulled about ten "got out of certain deaths" thanks to sakura's poison antidote.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
plot no jutsu

he did far better against an amped naruto which also negated another defeat from chackra loss, shit, he got even better thanks to naruto. nagato could have absorbed chackra from gedo mazo and replenished whatever life force loss he gets from nuking hidden villages. in a month the ninja world would be under his heel and he wouldn't have to leave his "couch" in his tree house 😐

he didn't even bring enough clay as usual (maybe he underestimated the one-tail) and didn't use his full arsenal of far more powerful explosives cause you know, not supposed to kill his intended target/plot. he still could have killed sunagakure if he felt like it after capturing their kage, they're defenseless against him.

an old lady that just happened to teach him everything he knows and a little girl who can counter his poisons. they pulled about ten "got out of certain deaths" thanks to sakura's poison antidote.

Not an argument.

Nope.

Indeed. Deidara underestimated exactly one opponent and would have lost had Sasori not been there to beat up Kankuro. Mind you, if Chiyo had come out earlier, she'd have beaten Deidara and gotten Gaara back anyway. He also lost to around 4 or 5 guys during the war. He's not taking out a village on his own.

Still 2 people.

Itachi can defeat a country on his own using a genjutsu from afar on the Leader of the Country. vin

He wouldn't want to. 😛

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Naw dawg, I mean he would know he that could bat it away because he could bat it away, and he would indeed bat it away because he is a BAMF carrying a Big F***ing Sword.

kruemelmonsteryn0

You mean like the pain bodies tried to bat it away but got cut in half? You mean that? 🙂

Or...you mean like those big-*ss mountain plant thingies that Naruto cut the tops off of...you mean the water would bat THAT RS away? You mean that? 🙂

The only thing the RS cannot cut...thus far...is a Shinra Tensei. And it probably could not cut the cheese, either.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
an old lady that just happened to teach him everything he knows and a little girl who can counter his poisons. they pulled about ten "got out of certain deaths" thanks to sakura's poison antidote.

lol

I was with AA until I read your comeback: that's dah troof. No wonder Chiyo beat his *ss: she was teh master and she had Sakura there.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Not an argument.

Nope.

Indeed. Deidara underestimated exactly one opponent and would have lost had Sasori not been there to beat up Kankuro. Mind you, if Chiyo had come out earlier, she'd have beaten Deidara and gotten Gaara back anyway. He also lost to around 4 or 5 guys during the war. He's not taking out a village on his own.

Still 2 people.

so chiyo can beat deidara according to you, but since she "beat" sasori he's weak?
The phuck? Deidara would oneshot kankurou on his best day

Tsunade got her fame from countering chiyo's poison in the iirc second great ninja war, sakura is the second coming of Tsunade so....yeah. Sasori had two of the only real counters for his abilites put up against him, and he still ley himself get killed according to chiyo

all the guys i mentioned can and have technically solo'd villages. Deal with it

Originally posted by psycho gundam
so chiyo can beat deidara according to you, but since she "beat" sasori he's weak?
The phuck? Deidara would oneshot kankurou on his best day

Tsunade got her fame from countering chiyo's poison in the iirc second great ninja war, sakura is the second coming of Tsunade so....yeah. Sasori had two of the only real counters for his abilites put up against him, and he still ley himself get killed according to chiyo

all the guys i mentioned can and have technically solo'd villages. Deal with it

Chiyo would usually never be able to beat Deidara. However, were she going to fight Deidara directly after his fight with Gaara, she would pwn him. He had nothing to fight with.
Indeed. Unless he had no clay. Which was the position he was in after the fight with Gaara. But then again, Kankuro actually has fought Deidara, along with Sasori. He got out of it just fine.

Doesn't matter to me. 2 people.

Oh I'm sorry, I think you need a little context. You see, if Akatsuki hadn't been stealthy and tried to just brute force their way in, they probably wouldn't have gotten through the front door of the village. Much less capture Gaara and defeat the village.

The 9 members of Akatsuki will never be able to match the might of the 5 Villages with muscles. They could not have taken over the world that way.

Edit: Make that 8 members. Itachi wouldn't participate and would likely leak info about the plans to attack villages, before proceeding to kill half of the Akatsuki by himself.

Itachi isn't good enough to kill half of Akatsuki by himself. 😬

Not at once.

But he would be able to do so systematically. He could kill Deidara, Kisama, Sasori, Konan, Zetsu, Hidan, and Kakuzu individually. Or hell, he does have a sword and shield made of broken. I'd love to see Hidan's face once the Totsuka blade hit him.

Which is my point anything. Systematic subtle actions(like a ninja) will always be able to get more done than brute force. At least in the world of Naruto.

Except Akatsuki doesn't travel individually, only in pairs. First off he'd have to kill Kisame before he could warn the others and then he'd have to find a way to deal with Zetsu, who seems to keep tabs on the members and seems to know a shitton of everything that happens. Even then he'd have to fight them two at a time, and take them down quickly because I doubt they'd stay and fight rather than inform the rest of his betrayal.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Itachi isn't good enough to kill half of Akatsuki by himself. 😬

Well, something about going full Susano'o, using his invincible Yata Mirror Shield, and his sealing sword...making him invincible. No one stands a chance against Itachi: not even Madara. Itachi is the most broken-ness of all of Naruto characters because Kishimoto got a bit carried away by giving him the best defense and the best offense.