Originally posted by dadudemon
I thought you meant, by the formulas, the typical shounen immaturity stuff like....sticking out tongues, fart jokes, poop jokes, pranks, ragey thought bubbles (Sakura), n'stuff like that that is frequent in shounen.
Yea, but I specifically mentioned plot-format stuff and how it different from the norm there a couple times.
From what I read...it's lacking in depth. Like I said, it seems like the story was formulated by an 8-year old and they ran with it making shallow arcs with extremely generic shounen characters. [/B]
From that, I wonder if you've been reading the same manga.
I mean, Kotaro's pretty normal, but Negi is not. What series has female characters take such a large role (Asuna really acts more like a normal Shonen Protagonist than Negi? Supporting cast in general have more impact than normal, they don't just split off to fight other characters but instead multi-combatant combats are normal, Etc..
More spoilers for you, since you aren't planning on reading more on your own:
Spoiler:
Remember bookstore girl? She becomes a badass, and her mind-reading ends up making her quite combat effective.Also, later on, Negi willingly choses the powers of darkness over the powers of light.
Originally posted by NemeBro
That part isn't really as relevant as the "demolished skyscrapers" bit.
I disagree. Keep in mind that any feat that is significantly above a class 90-100 is ignored by myself. It's mostly sh*tty writing by the authors.
Originally posted by NemeBro
And no, it is harder to uproot a stump horizontally. 🙂
Are you...just re-quoting me or something?
You do know that this is what I said, right:
"From the academic white paper I cited, it is 5 times harder to uproot a tree horizontally than it is vertically."
Edit - What is Sakura's strength class, by feats? I'm sure we could classify that. What about Tsunade? I think we decided on Tsunade being vaguely a class 100+.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Edit - What is Sakura's strength class, by feats? I'm sure we could classify that. What about Tsunade? I think we decided on Tsunade being vaguely a class 100+.
Hard to tell with Sakura since she smashes a lot, but rarely lifts. Pretty strong in any case.
Tsunade, she can literally jump around while carrying Gamabunta's sword, which I've seen people say has been calced at thousands of tons.
Ironic how someone who has strength rivaling Sage Mode has so few fighting scenes 😐
I do wonder if we're just going to forget Naruto made clones to help everyone? I know Kishi does a pretty decent job at covering non-Uchiha related problems but I just want this issue to be cleared so Naruto can have better experience and what-not.
well he doesn't really need clone experience at this point but it'd be nice for this point to be covered.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I disagree. Keep in mind that any feat that is significantly above a class 90-100 is ignored by myself. It's mostly sh*tty writing by the authors.
I have to admit, it takes balls to imply that you know more about the power level of the X-Men than Chris Claremont. Aka the definitive writer for them for something like two decades.
Are you...just re-quoting me or something?You do know that this is what I said, right:
"From the academic white paper I cited, it is 5 times harder to uproot a tree horizontally than it is vertically."
Stumps=/=Trees. 131
Edit - What is Sakura's strength class, by feats? I'm sure we could classify that. What about Tsunade? I think we decided on Tsunade being vaguely a class 100+.
Sakura's striking force is based on feats fairly low-level class 100, based on hitting a 400 ton iron block into the air.
Gama's tanto was calced at, IIRC, 400 tons, so Tsunade is class 100 in lifting strength.
Obviously neither are even remotely in the range of guys like Superman, so fairly low class 100 for Tsunade, and same for Sakura in terms of chakra enhanced strikes.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Ironic how someone who has strength rivaling Sage Mode has so few fighting scenes 😐
It's not like *most* non-main characters have many fight scenes.
Jiraiya had two.
I do wonder if we're just going to forget Naruto made clones to help everyone? I know Kishi does a pretty decent job at covering non-Uchiha related problems but I just want this issue to be cleared so Naruto can have better experience and what-not.
What do you mean, forget? He dispelled all the others, and gained knowledge of what's going on for it.
Originally posted by Q99
It's not like *most* non-main characters have many fight scenes.Jiraiya had two.
Aside from Tsunade's strength the only truly impressive thing she did was punch Orochimaru...a crippled one at that 😐
Originally posted by Q99
What do you mean, forget? He dispelled all the others, and gained knowledge of what's going on for it.
When did he do this? I only recall the one clone that was in the desert that he dispelled. Unless of course that one accounted for all the rest.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkawhich is quite funny if you think about it
Ironic how someone who has strength rivaling Sage Mode has so few fighting scenes 😐
to make tsunade a insta-badass, he just has to say jiraya did sage training cause he wanted a way to get strength like hers after almost getting killed just trying to sneak a peak at dem tiddays.
if you look at it, tsunade has sage mode'ish physical stats with just her own chackra, and can obviously remain in said "state" cause of her chackra control, this is something naruto has to prepare to become and it's not permanent whereas hers seems to be.
Originally posted by marwash22
yeah, all she did was heal and protect an entire village, then tried to fight Pein... what a cvnt. 😐
She could've did just more than be on the support role, at least from where I saw. Okay she did good in trying to protect the village but she could've fought Pein before the whole nuking the village happened. 😐
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
She could've did just more than be on the support role, at least from where I saw. Okay she did good in trying to protect the village but she could've fought Pein before the whole nuking the village happened. 😐
She tried.
Pain then jumped up and did said nuking.
Mind you...Had Naruto been brought back when she ordered it, there wouldn't have been any reason why she couldn't have fought alongside him to beat Pain.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Plus, that doesn't make up the time when Kabuto schooled her.
Nothing she does will ever make up for this IMO
Aura: Tsunade made a speech about Pein being a hypocrite when she could've smashed his face in...or be Shinra Tensei'd. Or used the favorite line from another forum I saw, I think it was mangastream:
Spoiler:
"throw a giant rock at him"
So....I'm blaming Ma and toads for this?
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Nothing she does will ever make up for this IMOAura: Tsunade made a speech about Pein being a hypocrite when she could've smashed his face in...or be Shinra Tensei'd. Or used the favorite line from another forum I saw, I think it was mangastream:
Spoiler:
"throw a giant rock at him"So....I'm blaming Ma and toads for this?
Remember when Jiraiya failed to do what Naruto managed to do in a couple days? That is worse in my humble opinion.
Si. Ninja's talk ideas and shit. Does not mean she wasn't going to fight him.
No, blame Danzo.