The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by leonheartmm
sooooooo your reason for thinking he is OVERPOWERED is the fact that he LOST to a lot of POWERFUL characters???????????????????

That's EXACTLY what I posted and that's EXACTLY the context of what i was getting at. 😉

Originally posted by leonheartmm
what kinda reasoning is that?!?!?! it reminds of that joke where an old guy claims he is still as strong as he was inhis youth, and he proves it by saying that he cudnt lift the boulder in front of his house when he was young and still cudnt lift it when he was old.

Good one.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
he didnt beat a fox cloacked naruto, he stalemated him, since naruto was trying to prove a point by sratching his headband.

Good one. Cause Naruto was still conscious standing over his body, right?

It doesn't matter how it happened. Sasuke was trying to win, he won. Get over it.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
and it was his strongest incarnation at curse mark 2 preshippuden. and chakra absorbing ninja is one of the least significant characters in the series.

Great...but he still won. Get over it.

naruto was unconciuus because he didnt go for a body strike, it had nuthing to do with power

and he still won just like he won against the first attackers against team 7, but that doesnt mean anything, since they are completely insignificant.

again, what is it about LOSING to tough guys that made u think sasuke was overpowered, specially when it was heavily implied in the later half, pre shippuden that naruto was stronger and sasuke was furious about it????

Originally posted by leonheartmm
naruto was unconciuus because he didnt go for a body strike, it had nuthing to do with power

and he still won just like he won against the first attackers against team 7, but that doesnt mean anything, since they are completely insignificant.

again, what is it about LOSING to tough guys that made u think sasuke was overpowered, specially when it was heavily implied in the later half, pre shippuden that naruto was stronger and sasuke was furious about it????

Still not addressing the real points here.

Losing against some of the most powerful ninja on the entire planet as a 12 year and 13 year old boy does not mean Sasuke is weak. You're erroneously using those "feats" as reasons why Sasuke is NOT over powered. Great, so he lost to the strongest ninja on the planet at 12...wow..he's not overpowered...you got me.

Wait a minute...he DOES win against the strongest ninja in Naruto at 16, now doesn't he? Some of the same ones who b*tched slapped him. Damn...maybe that was my point earlier that you have NOT been arguing against.

WEEEEEEEEEEEE!

I think he's overpowered and has been for quite some time. I said he became overpowered after his one month training quest with Kakashi. He was. End of story. That's it. Anything you say is something I already know. Anything you erroneously point out will not change it either. 😐

Nartuo has a friggin' demon in him. The most powerful, in fact. Now, here comes Sasuke, oops...he's better. WEEEEEEEEEE! Do you see why he's overpowered now?

K...so...now that I've moved along from "overpowered" can you? Why don't you address my other points? You know, my real reasons? Go ahead, give 'em a try.

i am. you said you hated sasuke since the very beginning,. before posting on this forum because he was overpowered. and i bring out all pre shippuden fights which see him LOSING{to what category of ninja is insignificant since losing to the strongest doesnt make him any stronger than losing to the weakest in terms of evidence, it isnt a positive} you conveniently said 16 ONWARDS, while if you read back i say that im talking about PRESHIPPUDEN and admiot that he got an upgrade after shippuden. fact is, im questioning your basis for hate which you claim has ALWAYS been there{including pre shippuden, hence it coming under discussion}. he didnt really win against naruto as i said, and most powerful demon doesnt mean anything as it was only 1 tail. and even after his one month training, his chidori was weaker than naruto;s raasengan. so there, your hate for sasuke probably comes from it being fashionable to hate him around here or just hating the mainstream.

Huh? I never thought Sasuke was overpowered but whatever Naruto has kinda fallen in my eyes the character alone doesn't seem to get much stronger unless the demon cloak is released.

ive kinda been thinking. WHY is naruto doing the sage training, he already has more than enough chakra reserves. he needs to lear to CHANNEL it.

I liked Sawsgay up until the Chuunin Exam arc, where he magically managed to do in one month what took Rock Lee his entire life... and Naruto defeats the strongest of the rookie 9, the prodigy himself, Neji, and is swept in to the background immedietly as soon as Sawsgay enters the scene. It's irritating, and he is overpowered. He saw Rock Lee fight once and he's suddently able to attain the same speed as him weightless and everything? Gay.

swept in the background??? not exactly. sasuke loses to gaara partial transformation and naruto BEATS gaara full transformation! to me that pretty much sweeps SASUKE in the background.

I'm talking about the crowd, man.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i am. you said you hated sasuke since the very beginning,. before posting on this forum because he was overpowered.

Correct, which as about, guess what...a year ago. Do a search. I've been posting her for about a year.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
and i bring out all pre shippuden fights which see him LOSING{to what category of ninja is insignificant since losing to the strongest doesnt make him any stronger than losing to the weakest in terms of evidence, it isnt a positive}

So you mean winning against an average ninja and losing against the very best doesn't mean anything? Sure. He lost to the best of the best. Oh well. Doesn't mean much when you're 12 and 13. in the Ninja world. They are novices. Those aren't really good points considering he beat some of those same best a mere 3 years later...or did you forget that point? Shippuuden was going and the manga was post time skip a year ago. Not very convenient for your argument, now is it?

That doesn't matter. You fantasy of my argument being based on his power is pathetic. You have not once addressed the primary reasons for my disliking Sasuke, have you?

Why not?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
you conveniently said 16 ONWARDS, while if you read back i say that im talking about PRESHIPPUDEN and admiot that he got an upgrade after shippuden.

ZOMG! You are getting warmer! Maybe one day you'll see beyond your own words and realize you aren't arguing jack shit with me. You've been arguing something I am not making a point of. You still haven't fully realized that even AFTER several posts...even when it was DIRECTLY spelled out for you. What is wrong with you?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
fact is, im questioning your basis for hate which you claim has ALWAYS been there{including pre shippuden, hence it coming under discussion}.

That's correct. But do you even know why I disliked Sasuke in pre time skip? Do you? Do you REALLY know why?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
he didnt really win against naruto as i said, and most powerful demon doesnt mean anything as it was only 1 tail.

You are absolutely correct. Being in the one tailed cloak is nothing at all. It can't even fool the fully developed Sharingan of a cursed seal II user. dur

Originally posted by leonheartmm
and even after his one month training, his chidori was weaker than naruto;s raasengan.

You are comparing apples to oranges. If you had actually paid attention (which, by now, we know you aren't really good at paying attention), you'd have realized that the rasengan has a different effect than the Chidori. The chidori punches holes and the rasengan applies a twisting force to a surface area. Did Jiraiya punch a hole through that debt collector when he used the rasengan for the first time in front of Naruto? No! Did chidori punch holes through tons and tons and tons of shit throughout the series? YES! When has the rasengan ever punched a hole through a person? When has the chidori? Exactly.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
so there, your hate for sasuke probably comes from it being fashionable to hate him around here or just hating the mainstream.

hahahaha.

Wrong.

You haven't even once tried to address my points for hating him. You've delusionally addressed my points. This whole time you think it's based on his power, which is wrong.

There is something wrong with you, son. Something very wrong.

In the end, bro, I'm just bustin' your balls. I know you're not stupid and I think you're cool. I'm just having a bit of fun with you.

Originally posted by dadudemon
In the end, bro, I'm just bustin' your balls. I know you're not stupid and I think you're cool. I'm just having a bit of fun with you.

Lies.

Originally posted by dadudemon
In the end, bro, I'm just bustin' your balls. I know you're not stupid and I think you're cool. I'm just having a bit of fun with you.

Sasgay got overpowered to me in the Itachi fight. Dude...The guy pulled some lameass move out of his ass that let him hold lightning in his hands and shoot it...And he did it all with no Chakra...WTF!?

The weird thing is that he will still when the fight with the 8 tails because of genjutsu.

It's lame but true.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
I liked Sawsgay up until the Chuunin Exam arc, where he magically managed to do in one month what took Rock Lee his entire life... and Naruto defeats the strongest of the rookie 9, the prodigy himself, Neji, and is swept in to the background immedietly as soon as Sawsgay enters the scene. It's irritating, and he is overpowered. He saw Rock Lee fight once and he's suddently able to attain the same speed as him weightless and everything? Gay.

That's EXACTLY my opinion. That's what i was saying when I was arguing the small overpowerment point of shitty sasuke.

At least someone agrees with me. 🙁

Everyone agrees with you.

Leon doesn't, but I take what he says about as seriously as the dead pre-teen girls in my closet, not very.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Everyone agrees with you.

Leon doesn't, but I take what he says about as seriously as the dead pre-teen girls in my closet, not very.

Cool.

And, right. I could have sworn that Sasuke is intended to be hated. 😕

well yeah, he is the bad guy afterall

anyway, i hope Naruto doesn't have some shitty ending like Sasuke and Naruto being best friends again... and living happily ever after

Originally posted by stickman618
well yeah, he is the bad guy afterall

anyway, i hope Naruto doesn't have some shitty ending like Sasuke and Naruto being best friends again... and living happily ever after

That's exactly the way I want it to end.

I'm a sap and I want everyone to be friends, what can I say?

I personally want Sasuke to kill himself, and I want Naruto to get all of Sasuke's b!tches. Cause Naruto deserves b!tches more than Sasuke.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
the point is it wasnt an ATTACK. and it was against a normal sharingan, and it was in the begining arc when the powers of the shaaringan hadnt been developed by the author. the initial point was that a physical attack cud fool the shaaringan.

yes that is exactly what hell do, use his superior taijutsu to fight with kakashi in ways he cant counter straight out with his body, looking at his feat is just a way to not get caught in his GENJUTSU. nuthing more to it

again this has beenn dealt with, unpredictably or predictably, its an argument against the multiple attacks argument posted earlier. {and yes it is hudreds of times.

no the argument was that the shaaringna cud be fooled by 8 or so attacks.

itachi DIDNT know he had uro in him at all. if u pay close attention, akatsuki beleived that sasuke KILLED uro, not ABSORB him. all itachi wanted, was to free sasuke of the CURSED SEAL{which is uro's INFLUENCE}, do remember that there is a difference between uro and his cursed seal. you have nuthing to say that itachi didnt use tsukiyomi to thwe max, NUTHING. same for amaterasu, it wud have hit sasuke. also, he died because he had to use susano, he was weakened, but not dying otherwise right there and then. and he wud have died if he didnt use susano, that is sumthing u keep forgetting.

Gai doesn't have a high enough advantage in speed or taijutsu to completely own a sharingan user that has three tomoe. Even if he was extremely fast compared to Kakashi the user can still predict what he's going to do just like in the Sasuke/Naruto fight when Sasuke was slower than Naruto. So yea he found a way to beat the sharingan not just genjutsu.
Fighting a predictable opponent is completely different than fighting a unpredictable person. Just look at the Kimimaro/Lee fight. Lee didn't suddenly get stronger or faster just less predictable when he got drunk. Sasuke/Naruto fight also. Naruto is easily predictable in fights but one he had the chakra which moved on its on mostly he was a lot more unpredictable. And prove it was hundreds a second.

The arguement was that the sharingan can be fooled by a guy using 7 swords and said to be fighting in a unpredictable way.

Itachi did know he had him inside. He even says it's about time when Oro comes out. He isn't surprised or anything. But whatever keep believing Itachi was trying to kill Sasuke despite all the evidence that Itachi wasn't.

(And I would have responded sooner but I was out of town for a few days)