USH'S MATRIX GAME FOURTH ASSIGNMENT (PHILOSOPHY PATH)- 'The Journey'

Started by Castor53 pages

what point was that if i may ask, or ven how long ago was it?

Well... at what point in a Matrix game are you most likely to receive help?

begining of the assignment...

Ok, at what point in a Matrix film are the protagonists most likely to receive help?

umm....when they visit the oracle?

Sounds good to me...

The oracle talked about deceptions and how they are nto what we think they are.

She also said that the why is much more important that the what, without the why the what means very little.

that ahve anyhing to do with it?

Sorry, I am not going to decipher anything the Oracle said, but don't overlook anything she seemed keen to say- no matter how much you might otherwise be tempted to overlook it.

okay so i have to devise an argument that cant be mirrored....

Yes, no mirrorable argument can be any better than "I want you to drink because I want to live."

Hey brain team! How goes it? Looks like time is still available, but you might want to be refining some of your basic ideas by now...

I know why the real castor should drink, Ive told you that us. What I cant figure oput is a justification for why one of the beings should drink and the other shouldnt.

This part is really eluding me. I dont know about the others.

Just to refresh my memory- why should it be the real Castor that drinks as opposed to the AI?

"The programs should be the one to drink because the program is not castor, and if castor drank he would die. Neither of us want that. So in order for us both to get what we want the program MUST drink, so that castor can live and htus be free of meltius's iron lung stupid...self....ugh"

Sorry, I reject your reasoning. You have not established why the AI Castor would want the Human Castor to live. They are BOTH Castor. Your minds are identical.

The AI Castor cant live outside the matrix, therefore for the survival of the real castor to come about the one who cannot survive outside the matrix must be the one to drink the wine. Although we are the same person here, we all know that this world is base don deceptions. If the castors are the same they will both want to get out so that Castor can continue to fight the good fight for zion. Castor cant do that if the real one drinks the wine and dies. That means the AI has to drink the wine in order the real castor to live and do what both the AI and Human Castor want.

What is to stop the AI fighting for Zion? The only reason you ever leave the Matrix is because of the liabilities of your ships. He would not have that liability- sentinels would be no threat to him.

The AI can not operate alone. Where would he get his weapons, who would be his support. To do what us rebels do it takes more than one person. Suppose he is in a tight spot and cant get away, he cant jack out, then hes fudged. Thats the end of castor, and you cant help the resistance when your dead. Its about the survival of the person best suited to help zion. That is the human castor. He has more resources and is able to get orders directly from Zion. The clone wouldnt be able to do those things.

The theory I accept, though your reasoning does not quite work out- his being unable to jack out is a far smaller liability than you HAVING to jack out when the sentinels come near. And he can be provided with weapons at a hardline.

If he is acting with a team, but who would work with a rogue. We all know he isnt the best person for the job so im not certain if Zion would accept his help or what. It would be much more difficult for him, and he he would not be able to do as good a job as the real mcCoy