Review: Black Hawk Down

laughing at your small penis I assume hippie boy

eh, no, at you so self-certain stating you know more than anyone else on the forum about it

well, about this case I am almost 100% sure, if there are any experts of the "Gotic Serpent" mission out there, just say so....

Gothic Serpent is the code name for the attack...in Mog...
and what i said up there was a joke mah, about the penis..but not the hippie stuff 😄

to put it agian for Thomas to understand, people who got shot in BHD was too hollywood. When shot you more or less fall where you stand or sit, you kind of just sink down.

You seem to know a lot about it. 😈

Well, finti even now I can say that you are wrong...and this I have from a source that is 100% more liabile than you...I speaking of the Delta Force commanders that where in Mog.
They said, the problem in street wars is that when you shoot the target it dont fall down at once, i reashes behind a building, and you will never know if you killed him...but luckily that also saved some of out troopers...
this is taken out of the documentary...Somalia Good intenstions, deadly results.

Counter this finti....But I think Delta Force commanders know what they speak about!

a body in motion will continue its movement even if shot , if you stand still your body will just drop if shot.
An example from BHD is when the pilot is injured inside the choipper when they attack, to much hollywood stunts there.

Fact about being shot is that you dont know how a body will react when hit by a bullet, it all depends on the movemebnt the body had when the bullet hit it.
But in hollywood the body fly backwards when hit by a bullet, this is what I was aiming at.

have you ever seen anybody being shot Thomas? cause I have

well, who does not fall in BHD, exept snipers Shughart and Gordon.
And when they found Shugharts body, it was full of bullets!

While you guys all argue about realisic it is, I'll just remind you it's based on a real thing. They are going by what the survivors said, not some script. So (most of) it really happened.

A lot was also wrong...like Josh Hartnett role, when he plays Sgt Matt Everesman.. In the movie the feature him as the leader of chalk four going to the crash site and everything, and when they help clp Smith, who dies of a bullet in the hip.

In Mog that day Matt Everesman and his chalk four jumped on the convoy, not ran by foot to the chrach site.
And Matt was never there when Clp Smith died.

So they did not make it exactely as it happend..anyway it is the greatest movie of all time!

It is hard to portray a person being shot on film, it is nothing like real life at all

Of course BHD isn't entirely accurate. It's a movie, you have to make certain dramatic and storytelling decisions. On the DVD there're a lot of docs on Making BHD, they tell you how they merged people together and why. And why they chose to let Eversman spend the night in town.

Also inetresting to see how many of the guys who were there were actually present on the set. They helped to make it as realistic as possible.

yeah guess it is kind of close to the real thing, but it aint very objective though

What is?

But I do reject the notion that BHD is so very patriottic, I really feel it gives kind of a filmmaker's view in situ while running after the G.I.'s and not after the Somalians. Which is probably your point: we don't see the POV of the Somalians. Then again, that was never the movie's aim.

I didnt find the movie very objective, it was go go Yankee doodle

Hey queeq, I dont have the DVD, so why did they put SGT Everesman in the city and not in the lost convoy!?

For dramatic reasons. He's one of the main characters of the story, and the staying overnight in the city was one of the key things to the story. So having your main character there is very logical from a storytelling point of view.

even if the reality was something different

thats kind a weird, i think they should have used The Deltas "alamo" wich is a big scene in the book, they should also have featured when Mike Goodale gets shoot in the ass....and he actually brags about it all the night, helping the soldiers to keep up the motivation!

Tell that to Ridley. I'm sure he had good reason to do what he did.

And movies can only transfer the feel of the situation. If you want historical accuracy, read the book.