World of Warcraft

Originally posted by BackFire
The reason people scoff at the idea of Hunter tanks isn't because it's not possible, it's because 99% of the people who would try it would fail horribly. That one percent, they might be able to pull it off. It's the same with Shaman tanks. There are a few Shaman who can main tank raids, but it's obviously not the purpose of the class so no matter what they're going to be worse than a real tanking class.

If you're just doing it for fun and to screw around, that's fine. But I wouldn't put too much effort into it, won't be worth it.

I can't even begin to put forth a shaman tank in my head thats some crazy gear collection for that poor player.

I'm sure a hunter in the right spec could offtank multiple trash pulls with a main tank in raids as well.

Do you have a link to a shaman tank you've seen relatively recently in this expansion though, it seems like their hp are obscenely low compared to tanks.

I haven't heard of Shaman tanks since BC, and even then it was rare.

HP is a concern though, yes. My pet's HP removes him from consideration of raid tanking at all. His armor, general dmg. mitigation, and threat are fine though. But most bosses just hit for too many HP. I hope to be able to hit 30K health for my pet with full raid buffs once I can use PvP gear for tanking next patch. 25-27K is probably more realistic, especially for 5-man's.

There's apparently a video going around the Shaman forums of a Shaman tanking some raids. I haven't seen it myself because I have no interest in it, but it's out there.

Originally posted by BackFire
There's apparently a video going around the Shaman forums of a Shaman tanking some raids. I haven't seen it myself because I have no interest in it, but it's out there.

No that's cool and I believe you just in what I've done couldn't imagine the prep for gear on that.

And digi yeah that pet tank in dungeons would be cool too, do you happen to know his tps. It's not super important but when you're done I would like to show it to my guild hunters, the whole spec buff pet thing.

Massive possible news about the next expansion. If true, would be the most ambitious thing ever attempted in WoW, or any MMORPG for that matter.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=92919.msg1296496#msg1296496

An expansion not feauturing new continents but rather revamping Azaroth, that would be nice to see.

Sounds pretty sick. I'll be excited.

I'd return if this be true

Just as long as rated bg's will come I will be back with my undefeated wsg team 🙂

Originally posted by Bluesteel
Just as long as rated bg's will come I will be back with my undefeated wsg team 🙂

You mean the old school, ladder-based honor system? God help us if it ever returns.

erm no, I mean rated bg's like rated arenas, just with bg's.

Originally posted by Morridini
An expansion not feauturing new continents but rather revamping Azaroth, that would be nice to see.

still no graphics update though?

I wouldn't say it needed one.

I wish I was into WoW so I could experience some of what you guys say is so awesome, but I just can't get into it.

I guess I'm just a console gamer at heart.

I can't get into it either. A couple of my friends did recently and became obsessed quickly...I tried out the trial again (I tried it about a year ago, I think), and I was bored to tears within a couple of minutes. Not to mention that the control scheme just felt terrible to me...and while normally graphics aren't a big deal, I can't stand how bad they look 😛

The customizability of controls/interface/etc. because of the fan community is what makes the controls bearable. Because the defaults are admittedly a bit clunky. No two serious players' screens will look remotely alike, nor will their buttons, macros, etc. Which can be frustrating for the new or casual players, granted. But it's part of the appeal, since it becomes "your own" play experience eventually.

Graphics are meh, but so what? Warhammer was, by all accounts, an awfully balanced game. But it looked prettier. But no one cares anymore about it. I can still play RPG's from the mid 90's (and I do 😮 ) with sh*tty graphics. But they're awesome games. Not that WoW is awesome...it does sacrifice some gameplay for the social aspect of it. But the strong team elements in higher-level content, and the insane customizability through mods, make it worthwhile for me.

Wrath of the Lich King had a graphical update, a pretty substantial one, it just didn't affect the earlier portions of the game.

And I don't really get the complaint about the controls, never had any problems with them at all, myself. Basically controls like Guild Wars, almost identical, unless you use the mouse click to move, which puts you at an inherent disadvantage. I've tried mods that alter the action bars and I never liked them, still use the default ones to this day.

And I tried Warhammer and I thought WoW was way better looking. The art design in WoW is amazing, and it gets better as you progress through the game. Warhammer had a boring color pallet and piss poor animation and unremarkable design..

the only mods I bother using are Xperl, DBM and QuestHelper

I might get the quartz cast bar soon.. cuz I hate the default

GameTrailers made a very nice video going over every unfinished and closed off areas in Azaeroth; http://www.gametrailers.com/video/world-of-gt-wish-list/54486

Plenty of good expansion ideas there.