World of Warcraft

Originally posted by The Highlord
From my exspiriance PuG's are so bad that they aint even fun to be in, they dont listen, no team work its like playing counter strike with 12 year olds, and the retrbituion build and play style along with gear chooice will not get anyone far as I said when your going to wear 2 year old warrior gear you wont do good against most classes with players somewhat knowleagble about what their doing.

See, I was in a PUG the other day and we won against a premade from Shadowsong by a couple hundred in AB.

Several similar situations occured like that, where in another one, we were about 1860, the Alliance at 1950, and we managed to swipe a victory quite literally from under their noses with a very coordinated four node storm.

Just because PUGs don't listen too much on the Alliance side doesn't mean every single PUG is doomed to fail.

No but by far the majority is pretty ignorenat and filled with players that only play for themselfs makint he gaming exspiriances far less enjoyable for thos that are acturly trying to play the game.

So let me get this straight.. someone who plays for themselves.. isn't trying to play the game?..and / or is considered less valuable than someone who meets your viewpoint of what a good player is?...

honestly, this kind of close-mindedness is what turns WoW from being a place where someone can escape reality and meet great new people, into a cesspool of negativity...

It could play out this way : Aiight, lets PT up and do this..

Translation : Gee, I respect the fact that you chose to do something different..as its really none of my business.. anyway, lets work out a playstyle together.

But instead plays out like this : WTF! You rolled (insert alienated tree here) !?... GTFO!

Translation : I'm not dealing with you because then I'll actually have to come up with a new idea to impliment what you bring to the table.. I'd much rather do what I'm used to rather than thinking outside the box.

Am I wrong on this?... I'd like to hear your opinion on why, if so...

Originally posted by BackFire
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Thanks a lot.... I'm doing the quest now 🙂

Originally posted by The Highlord
No but by far the majority is pretty ignorenat and filled with players that only play for themselfs makint he gaming exspiriances far less enjoyable for thos that are acturly trying to play the game.

Well when you start pay their subscription charge then maybe you can tell them how to play.

Until then, realize the fact that not everyone enjoys the same things as you do in this game, and playing for ones self is completely enjoyable to those that do it, duh.

Originally posted by The Highlord
From my exspiriance PuG's are so bad that they aint even fun to be in, they dont listen, no team work its like playing counter strike with 12 year olds, and the retrbituion build and play style along with gear chooice will not get anyone far as I said when your going to wear 2 year old warrior gear you wont do good against most classes with players somewhat knowleagble about what their doing.

Yes it may go a little fast with the ret build to lvl in TBC, but few will be hanging in between 60 and 70 for a year, ppl will lvl up and start doing arenas and the new instances, where I might add retribution will be close to pointless, you mention also that 1 v 1 spec will beat the supportbuilds...

Yet in over 500 arena fights, and oh oh oh 1000's of duels, I've yet to loose to a ret paladin one on one.

The ret paladin will easily get in truble with: mages, priests, warlocks, (well played dps warriors) good geard druids, dps shammys, infact almost everything, every class has a great chance of takin down the ret paladin fairly easy since their heals are so easyly interuptable, and their bad survivability, yeah granted they may take one down every 5 min when bubbe is ready once it aint and they meet a prepared enemy their chances are not so high.

and I wasint really bragging about beating pugs tbh, we've fought every well known premade in our battlegroup and won, take that for what you will, what I originaly trying to say was that why use so much time on trying to be something your not and will never be( in this case a 2h wielding killing machine) Your playing a very repeative playstyle, your'l never really shine out with that build, you dont do any of the jobs really good, physical DPS btw wont be so very very good with a health poll that low, a dead DPS'er is a useless DPS'er.

Trying to go solo will just never work, I hate to say so but it wont, you'l not get anything by doing it, sure you can farm, but is that acturly fun? I think we all know the answer to that its not.

Every class will "get in trouble" when dealing with those classes, the game hs been tweaked to where every class and every build is dangerous if played by a skilled, knowledgable player.

PUGs can be very fun, at least in a PUG you know you're in for a challenge. What isn't fun to me is being in a premade and 5 capping and spawn camping a PUG over and over again, boring as hell.

What do you mean solo will never work? The game was founded on the idea that you could solo nearly everything besides instances. If it's fun soloing (as it is for me, and many others) then, yes, it's working. Solo grinding is also by far the fasted way to level up, but I guess it's not "working".

Funny you bring up farming, like people who play in a group all the time don't farm. What do you call running the same instance over and over for those new epics that will be obsolete in the future. Sounds like a blast, boy I wish I had spent the last 2 years farming MC and BWL over and over and over instead of doing things I enjoyed in the game, doh.

Personally I have never been in a premade.

I was once, didn't care for it. People are so concerned with winning that you can't really have fun, you'll hear nasally high pitched yelling over vent, and then whining/blaming when/if you don't win.

This was a long long time ago but 😛

any get attacked by Highlord Krull yet?

im in Dentarg server (alliance) this massive demon is outside Ironforge slaughtering everything in its path. eventually it kills the king with just a single shadow bolt. it slaughtered all the 60's standing around and all the rest of the people flying over to see whats going on. then out of no where it just disappears. heard it went to Orgrimmar.

Originally posted by StinkFist462
any get attacked by Highlord Krull yet?

im in Dentarg server (alliance) this massive demon is outside Ironforge slaughtering everything in its path. eventually it kills the king with just a single shadow bolt. it slaughtered all the 60's standing around and all the rest of the people flying over to see whats going on. then out of no where it just disappears. heard it went to Orgrimmar.

Well, sounds like a doozy.

its something to do with the Dark Portal opening. but thats all i know.

that and its impossible to even damage.

Is Jaina Proudmoore more powerful then Medivh's mother?

Originally posted by StinkFist462
any get attacked by Highlord Krull yet?

im in Dentarg server (alliance) this massive demon is outside Ironforge slaughtering everything in its path. eventually it kills the king with just a single shadow bolt. it slaughtered all the 60's standing around and all the rest of the people flying over to see whats going on. then out of no where it just disappears. heard it went to Orgrimmar.

yeah I was on a lowbie alt helping my relative level their character... so I was going to stop in stormwind. I saw him at the gate slapping 60's so I thought I could squeeze past unnoticed... ugh.. well lets just say that didnt work...

Highlord Krull hits you for 3363 (Crushing).

😐

Originally posted by trolly_crouchjr
Is Jaina Proudmoore more powerful then Medivh's mother?

Jaina's powerful too, but she's no Guardian.

Well solo its not fun since the game is mostly centerd around team work, and thats that, anyway what i was originaly saying i still stand by 2h paladins just a waste since it dosent give any results its that simple. I'd rather reroll a char thats acturly build somewhat for doing things solo, not the biggest support class in the game and then try to solo things its just foolish.

Originally posted by The Highlord
Well solo its not fun since the game is mostly centerd around team work, and thats that, anyway what i was originaly saying i still stand by 2h paladins just a waste since it dosent give any results its that simple. I'd rather reroll a char thats acturly build somewhat for doing things solo, not the biggest support class in the game and then try to solo things its just foolish.

World of Warcraft is different from other MMORPG's in the fact that you neither have to depend wholly on either yourself or a team, you can, at any time, pick a path to progress. It doesn't mean that you're limited to one or the other. Endgame raiding is a must if you want to get the really good gear and challenges, but levelling to 70 in BC, you can have just as much fun soloing quests as grouping.

You say that the entire game's mostly centred around teamwork; this only serves to tell me that you're far too dependent on others. Go level by yourself for a change.

You're also wrong in the fact that paladins, especially two hander paladins, are a complete waste and they're only built for raiding and grouping. Sure, they excel in those areas too, but it doesn't make them helpless by themselves. They have something akin to a Soulstone with considerably less cooldown than the skill of the said name, it's called Divine Shield. Less graveyard jogging, yo? And they're high armored as well.

Originally posted by The Highlord
Well solo its not fun since the game is mostly centerd around team work, and thats that, anyway what i was originaly saying i still stand by 2h paladins just a waste since it dosent give any results its that simple. I'd rather reroll a char thats acturly build somewhat for doing things solo, not the biggest support class in the game and then try to solo things its just foolish.

The game is centered around doing whatever you want, that's why the game's so successful, there is no right or wrong way to play.

It is imo a waste to go playing a paladin and try rambo'ing around since the class was build to support, and so its a waste to go solo, your not going to have so much succes as with a more solo focused class like a warlock, he can stand alone pretty good and dosent relie and aint made for lending a hand to others as much as the paladin is., and btw no the paladin dosent relie so much on others but he sure aint anything significent in anyway alone either, a 2h paladin in average epics is like a blue geard warrior without a hamstring and vital stuff like a mortal strike and sweeping strikes.

Originally posted by The Highlord
It is imo a waste to go playing a paladin and try rambo'ing around since the class was build to support, and so its a waste to go solo, your not going to have so much succes as with a more solo focused class like a warlock, he can stand alone pretty good and dosent relie and aint made for lending a hand to others as much as the paladin is., and btw no the paladin dosent relie so much on others but he sure aint anything significent in anyway alone either, a 2h paladin in average epics is like a blue geard warrior without a hamstring and vital stuff like a mortal strike and sweeping strikes.

You seem to be on terms about PvP too much. They're not the best PvP class, no doubt, but they can be quite a thorn in the opposing side if played right. Satsujin appears to have been gearing up for that. I know the Horde side has cursed Paladins many times. Try to think outside the box for once.