Thinknig of putting together a PvP Video, though i'm stuck for which song to put on it. Thinking one of these, tell me what you guys think.
3 Days Grace - Time of Dying
Disturbed - Hell
Evanescence - Bring me to Life
Linkin Park - Breaking the Habit
Soil - Breaking Me Down
Guild I'm in a dead end too, so gonna duel them all at 70 frap it, and use Linkin Park's, Just Like You ^^
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
allow me to translate this for everyone..."I play a broken class in WoW, and I want to keep it broken.. that is all"
my personal goal / expectation for this game, would be if all specs of all classes could enjoy this game equally.. but its simply not so
I dont want invincibility to all classes.. I want to be able to use my [b]2 whole heals
while maybe getting silenced twice tops (not counting interrupts)obviously you dont play a healer, so you could give a shit less.. amirite?
typical "it dont affect me, so lemme tell people to stop whining" attitude
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I play a 70 protection paladin, 63 shadowpriest (who I'll be making a healer), and a 54 subtle rogue [/B]
erm no, you can translate it into your own odd tongue though, if that makes you feel better
the class is not broken in the slightest, at least not for what ime using it for in PVE, and characters can still beat locks in PVP anyway, Rogues, Hunters they can do it, what your saying is
"i want free reign with heals and i cant find a way around locks"
deal with it, or get a partner in PVP or Arena who can..simple...
your whining because of some major abilities like silence, fear etc etc without giving any ideas of to how it could be changed for the better, your idea so far is to make fear deactivate on damage....make it more or less useless then, no good lock would try useing it and ofc this should be kept within PVP even if it was implemented, many Raids use that warlock skill very nicely
typical "zomg i cant beat this class, NERF!!" attitude
Originally posted by EvilAngelNone of those.
Thinknig of putting together a PvP Video, though i'm stuck for which song to put on it. Thinking one of these, tell me what you guys think.3 Days Grace - Time of Dying
Disturbed - Hell
Evanescence - Bring me to Life
Linkin Park - Breaking the Habit
Soil - Breaking Me DownGuild I'm in a dead end too, so gonna duel them all at 70 frap it, and use Linkin Park's, Just Like You ^^
3 Days Grace-Riot.
Limp Bizkit-One of Those Days
Drowning Pool-Bodies
Originally posted by Burning thought
erm no, you can translate it into your own odd tongue though, if that makes you feel betterthe class is not broken in the slightest, at least not for what ime using it for in PVE, and characters can still beat locks in PVP anyway, Rogues, Hunters they can do it, what your saying is
"i want free reign with heals and i cant find a way around locks"
deal with it, or get a partner in PVP or Arena who can..simple...
your whining because of some major abilities like silence, fear etc etc without giving any ideas of to how it could be changed for the better, your idea so far is to make fear deactivate on damage....make it more or less useless then, no good lock would try useing it and ofc this should be kept within PVP even if it was implemented, many Raids use that warlock skill very nicely
typical "zomg i cant beat this class, NERF!!" attitude
Originally posted by Burning thought
erm no, you can translate it into your own odd tongue though, if that makes you feel betterthe class is not broken in the slightest, at least not for what ime using it for in PVE, and characters can still beat locks in PVP anyway, Rogues, Hunters they can do it, what your saying is
"i want free reign with heals and i cant find a way around locks"
deal with it, or get a partner in PVP or Arena who can..simple...
your whining because of some major abilities like silence, fear etc etc without giving any ideas of to how it could be changed for the better, your idea so far is to make fear deactivate on damage....make it more or less useless then, no good lock would try useing it and ofc this should be kept within PVP even if it was implemented, many Raids use that warlock skill very nicely
typical "zomg i cant beat this class, NERF!!" attitude
-thats precisely what it is.. I've heard enough of the same crap to know..
-I already got done telling you I dont want free reign with heals.. so it was pointless to even waste time typing that
-I'm "whining" (cuz somehow talking against the grain is whining 🙄 ) because those abilities can be spammed over and over without any kind of diminishing returns.. fear me once or twice.. but the shit gets old after running around the 3rd and 4th time while your dot finishes half of its damage duration as you sit behind the keyboard and think its all skill.. not to mention getting counterspelled.. kicked.. earthshocked.. pummeled..etc etc etc
-I dont think it should break instantly on damage, but running around for 14 seconds just soaking up damage is stupid.. does any other class you know get 14 seconds of pure uninterrupted damage dealing? mmhmm
I just think all classes should get a silence in one form or another
as for your "I cant beat this class" blah blah assumption of me.. I've killed many locks as ret... nothings easier, IMO... but this is about healing vs interrupts / silence effects (fear was just an example, as even warriors and priests have fear).. not your E-peen and Warlocks
and naturally I'm talking about pvp.. as I dont really care about PvE
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
world of skillcraft, amirite?
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Originally posted by BackFire
An SL/SL Lock and resto druid, you say?Can't be true, such an incredibly underpowered pair.
Both of you sound like you don't know how incredibly OP this duo is.... EVEN I KNOW AND I'M LEVEL 55, L2P
Basically, - Fear, kill the other one, SL/SL Locks can only be killed by a rogue, with resto druid that is impossble too, so yeah, this is way unfair. HoT spam from the druid, who then ERs you, Lock fears your buddy until he goes running. DoTs on you, druid help kill you, but if you go after him, he'll runs. You can no way kill the lock, SL + all the druids DoTs
I don't think you've seen a Enhancement Shaman two shot a Lock, Tremor totem = what fear? 😛 There are counters to everything though in my opinion the ability to heal 4-5k a cast is utterly ridiculous. I think there should be a diminishing effect on spam healing in arena, its just not fair to a DPS team if another team can heal 200,000 HP in a match even after your best interruptions.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
??Both of you sound like you don't know how incredibly OP this duo is.... EVEN I KNOW AND I'M LEVEL 55, L2P
Basically, - Fear, kill the other one, SL/SL Locks can only be killed by a rogue, with resto druid that is impossble too, so yeah, this is way unfair. HoT spam from the druid, who then ERs you, Lock fears your buddy until he goes running. DoTs on you, druid help kill you, but if you go after him, he'll runs. You can no way kill the lock, SL + all the druids DoTs
Sarcasm, my dear Watson.
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
I don't think you've seen a Enhancement Shaman two shot a Lock, Tremor totem = what fear? 😛 There are counters to everything though in my opinion the ability to heal 4-5k a cast is utterly ridiculous. I think there should be a diminishing effect on spam healing in arena, its just not fair to a DPS team if another team can heal 200,000 HP in a match even after your best interruptions.
The only healer that's OP in Arena is the Druid, I think. All others can be shut down relatively simply. Well, disc/holy priests are a pain, but they're squishy and can be slowed down really easily.
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
I think there should be a diminishing effect on spam healing in arena, its just not fair to a DPS team if another team can heal 200,000 HP in a match even after your best interruptions.
dont dps spam the same skills as well?... its just the way the classes are designed
also, focus fire?
A priest with 3-400 resilience is far from squishy.
It takes no skill to spam heal yourself while your DPS buddy picks off the people trying to kill the you. The idea that there is basically a ceiling to most DPS capability lets say in the case of Spell Damage: its top is around 1200 spell dmg in PvE terms. Healing; the top is around 3000+. Healing is geared to the PvE aspect of the game while DPS is a mix of both which pollutes the PvP purpose of the arena.
I've literally had situations with moderately geared priests/pallies being able to endure the fire of both a BM hunter in season 2 and Enhance shaman in season 1 doing about 4k damage per second with heroism. It borders the line of luck to fully interrupt a spam healer which is not what arena should be reliant upon.
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
A priest with 3-400 resilience is far from squishy.It takes no skill to spam heal yourself while your DPS buddy picks off the people trying to kill the you. The idea that there is basically a ceiling to most DPS capability lets say in the case of Spell Damage: its top is around 1200 spell dmg in PvE terms. Healing; the top is around 3000+. Healing is geared to the PvE aspect of the game while DPS is a mix of both which pollutes the PvP purpose of the arena.
I've literally had situations with moderately geared priests/pallies being able to endure the fire of both a BM hunter in season 2 and Enhance shaman in season 1 doing about 4k damage per second with heroism. It borders the line of luck to fully interrupt a spam healer which is not what arena should be reliant upon.
while I dont disagree that healing can get ridiculous.. the gear DPS classes wear is also meant for those same purposes (damaging PVE bosses that have health deep in the hundred-thousands and onward)
.. so if you were to reduce healing, you'd probably have to reduce damage again anyway to balance things out..
since those same bosses do insane AoE / Single target damage, you need some pretty insane healing to keep up
with that said, I think if only pvp gear was allowed into pvp places.. (much like guild wars) pvp would be a much nicer place... allowing crazy black temple gear into arena just wtf-pwnz people
however blizzard wants people to be able to use their skills / gear in both pve and pvp the same way... so this aspect probably wont go away anytime soon