Loztastic
Plagueborn
(12/14/03 2:20 am)
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let's stick with Galadriel
the official conversion notes say 3 rolemaster/MERP levels = 2 D&D levels
so, that makes her 60th level ;-)
Sauron comes in at 80
Gandalf the grey at 30
Gandalf the white at 40
Saruman at 34, then 40, then down to 1st level ;-)
Grima and arwyn both come out as 10th level bards
Loztastic
Crimson Coil Cultist
(12/13/03 2:25 am)
Reply Re: Combat in Deciphers LotR
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the NPC stats were a little - extreem - too
though, Galadriel at level 90 was abour right ;-)
Philotomy Jurament
Tolling Bell Cultist
(12/14/03 5:20 pm)
Reply Re: true!
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I never tried converting the NPCs; I started with MERP rules and then moved to RM rules, and it worked okay. RM scaled pretty well. I think any conversion is going to skew things, especially when you're operating on that wide of a scale. If I were converting RM stats to D&D, I think I'd forget the conversion guidelines and go for the right feel and power-level based on my knowledge of D&D.
In current D&D rules, Galadriel should certainly be an Epic character, IMO. She was generally considered to be the equal of Feanor and was born in the Undying Lands, so she was from an earlier age in Middle Earth (I'd reserve Epic levels for characters from the 2nd age or earlier.) Exactly where to put her depends on where you put the Maiar that are on Middle Earth (Sauron, the Balrog, and the Wizards). A powerful Noldo would be in the same league as a Maia (remember that Noldor fought Balrogs, for example), so an extreme level for that type of character isn't inappropriate; I see them more as plot devices than NPCs.
--oh boy i'm going to do the bannana dance 💃
come on, Galadriels sibbling brothers fought Balrogs. They Died, but i'm sure they took more then a few Balrogs with them. They were super tough. She's over 5000 yrs old. She's more powerful then her brothers were.Hmm, i think she knows how to fight some pup with a sword without much problem. She could do it blindfolded and bare footed.
Maeglin337, I assume you like Galadriel a lot, but come on, be rational, everything that you were posting about Galadriel are all over-exaggeration. I wouldn't reply anymore to your other arguments because you will still insist that Galadriel could win over EVERYBODY. What next? She will jump off a cliff and she'll still survive?
Over exagerated? ANy of my statements? Shees, it's just simply ridiculous that someone born in the 3rd age with such lowly blood as aragorn could beat a 1st age Noldor who is 5000 yrs wise and with powers of the ages, one who wields one of the most powerful rings of middle earth. Even Beren would have trouble with someone like Galadriel. YEs, someone like Turin would have a hard time comeing up with something in which to master her and her foresight. She was certainly one of the most powerful characters in the LOTR's trillogy and it's mentioned so. Like I said, her brothers fought Balrogs, not 1, but many of them. I would think that in a few thousand years( where she is apparently no less for the years,) she would have surpassed the might of her brothers. THen you consider the trouble Gandalf had with 1 Balrog, maybe a powerful one, but still, u can see his dificulty, yet u also see the ease in which he not only delt with Aragorn, but with gimli, and legolas as well. I think it's clear and obvious and i'm dissapointed that more don't see it the same.(though i did the bannana dance cause i did find others on another message board who weren't so decieved) 😉 hey i'll do it again, cause , when it comes to it, i'm just right. 💃