Fight!

Originally posted by Maeglin337
Over exagerated? ANy of my statements? Shees, it's just simply ridiculous that someone born in the 3rd age with such lowly blood as aragorn could beat a 1st age Noldor who is 5000 yrs wise and with powers of the ages, one who wields one of the most powerful rings of middle earth. Even Beren would have trouble with someone like Galadriel. YEs, someone like Turin would have a hard time comeing up with something in which to master her and her foresight. She was certainly one of the most powerful characters in the LOTR's trillogy and it's mentioned so. Like I said, her brothers fought Balrogs, not 1, but many of them. I would think that in a few thousand years( where she is apparently no less for the years,) she would have surpassed the might of her brothers. THen you consider the trouble Gandalf had with 1 Balrog, maybe a powerful one, but still, u can see his dificulty, yet u also see the ease in which he not only delt with Aragorn, but with gimli, and legolas as well. I think it's clear and obvious and i'm dissapointed that more don't see it the same.(though i did the bannana dance cause i did find others on another message board who weren't so decieved) 😉 hey i'll do it again, cause , when it comes to it, i'm just right. 💃

couldn't agree more man,........
thats kinda how i think too...
he's got a point that i strongly agree with....i mean BALROG'S' gandalf died fighting ONE....
she has a ring made by sauron......ect

Originally posted by Maeglin337
Over exagerated? ANy of my statements? Shees, it's just simply ridiculous that someone born in the 3rd age with such lowly blood as aragorn could beat a 1st age Noldor who is 5000 yrs wise and with powers of the ages

What I was calling exaggerated was this statement of yours:

Really, Galadriel wouldn't even need a sword to fight aragorn. Even if aragorn was armed, she would win.

Come on, you know if Gimli took the ring, the first place he'd go would be the golden wood. I think something there caught his eye. BTW, lady lorien was one of the best cast characters in the film. grrrgh, yum yum yummy. 🙄

It's just a fact that one can still fight an armed opponent. Being fast and agile and being able to anticipate the moves of your foe, it's a matter of stepping inside the blades reach. Try to hit someone with a sword when they r face to face with you. It can be demonstrated, get a ratan sword and try to fight someone willing and well trained in the martial arts, I'm sure even in a dozen tries, you would find yourself unable to strike your opponent before you lose your chance. Aragorns no joke, but i think he's just out matched. Intuition is strong with the wise.

BTW, it's not inconceiveable to that galadriel might be able to block a sword with her hand. It's a bit speculative, but not completely out of the possible. Maybe just on the side of the sword, not that she would need to do so.

I don't know why you involved Gimli in one of your post, but whatever.

We don't have enough evidences that Galadriel is that agile and fast and flexible and great as a warrior. Your making her turn out to be like a ninja or something, or like an anime character or something to that effect. Like I said, Galadriel is not the warrior type of woman, so I don't know where she'll get the dodging flowing moves that you seem to suggest.

And let's say that she COULD indeed dodge and block a sword with her hand. It's still not enough to say that she could defeat Aragorn. Blocking a sword doesn't guarantee that you will win a fight. Is that all she has to do? Block and dodge the sword? Then what? She's not wielding any weapons like you said. How could she possibly defeat and kill Aragorn? Your making it seem like Aragorn is an amateur warrior. If we're going on the movie version, remember that Aragorn defeated Lurtz and hundreds of Orcs during different battles.

Galadriel is simply 5000+ years old, she can fight, give her that, 5000 year old bueatiful darling knows how to take care of herself. I bet she's also phsically stronger then aragorn. So if u wonder how she'd beat him, she just going to smack him him around, take that sword awy from him and show him what being a noldor means.

arwen is more aragorns level. Luthien tunuvial was to beren as arwen is to aragorn, yes, eowyn wouldn't have much chance at fighting arwen for aragorn. Can u see my logic?

No, I can't see your logic, because all you're doing is nothing but to keep on assuming and give Galadriel these very superior talents and abilities which Tolkien himself or even Chris Tolkien didn't give her. You keep on saying that Galadriel is very powerful and could fight and could beat Ungoliant and Aragorn even without wielding any weapon just because she had lived for thousands of years and she's a Noldo. I can't see your logic because the things and points you're giving me aren't sufficiently proven in the books, they are only proven based on your personal thoughts.

You keep saying and betting that Galadriel could be a great fighter though we didn't really see her fight a lot. Your making things look real and sufficiently supported though they aren't.

You're so very subjective in favor of Galadriel to the point that I can't see any more dimension within you.

So if u wonder how she'd beat him, she just going to smack him him around, take that sword awy from him and show him what being a noldor means.

Originally posted by Maeglin337
arwen is more aragorns level. Luthien tunuvial was to beren as arwen is to aragorn, yes, eowyn wouldn't have much chance at fighting arwen for aragorn. Can u see my logic?

Being a couple doesn't mean that you have to have the same levels about everything.

I like u shadowy 🙂 Well i thought i showed how potent the ancient noldor were. Tolkien didn't get into detail, but he did mention galadriel being pretty perilious. I mean, if u give her credit for being half as tough as her brothers in their time, and consider she's a bit more now then she was then, and also give a little credit to her ring, u might be more sympathetic to my point of view. It's also pretty apparent that those born in the 1st age were a bit more special then those born in years to come. The dragons, orcs and troll might have grown more powerful with time, but the beings created in the 1st tend to be more powerful.

Luthien was described as being pretty darn tough, so was arwen, more details to them given then to galadriel, but i think galadriel was infered to be even more fierce then both. Re-read the books with this in mind, maybe u change your mind. The movie is good too since it doesn't dissagree.

Originally posted by Maeglin337
I like u shadowy 🙂

Well i thought i showed how potent the ancient noldor were. Tolkien didn't get into detail, but he did mention galadriel being pretty perilious. I mean, if u give her credit for being half as tough as her brothers in their time, and consider she's a bit more now then she was then, and also give a little credit to her ring, u might be more sympathetic to my point of view. It's also pretty apparent that those born in the 1st age were a bit more special then those born in years to come. The dragons, orcs and troll might have grown more powerful with time, but the beings created in the 1st tend to be more powerful.

No matter how powerful she is, she would still need some weapons and physical abilities to kill Aragorn. Not just a mere power inside her.

Tolkien stated that she was perilous because she has a very deep wisdom and perception to whatever that's going on around her. She was perilous, just like how the Witch King is perilous, just like how Sauron is perilous, but even they have weapons with them.

Toughness and years of existence do not guarantee your victory in fight.

Originally posted by Maeglin337
Luthien was described as being pretty darn tough, so was arwen, more details to them given then to galadriel, but i think galadriel was infered to be even more fierce then both. Re-read the books with this in mind, maybe u change your mind. The movie is good too since it doesn't dissagree.

I agree about Luthien.

I never said though that Galadriel is Arwen and Luthien's inferior. I was just saying in my first post about this that you don't have to necessarily compare the abilities and experiences of the couples in the novel.

Originally posted by Maeglin337
BTW, lady lorien was one of the best cast characters in the film. grrrgh, yum yum yummy. 🙄

😘 you think cate blanchett is attractive? omg 😘

Originally posted by Chapel
or how about

Feanor vs Sauron

Arwen vs Eowen (Naked Jelly/jello wrestling)

if that's a battle of wits, then sauron would win...but good looks and a suave debonair...then most definately me...hehehe 😛

as for the last one...do we really care who winsnaughty

Originally posted by Thorondor
😘 you think cate blanchett is attractive? omg 😘

look!

galadriel 5000 year old ok fine shes old, sos my gran, but hey that doesnt make her all powerful and invunerable
sauron was older than her, he still used a weapon
glorfindel was very old indeed, took down a balrog (she didnt) and he still ran from the nazgul
aragorn didnt did he? he simply said light a fire.

galadriels powers were as i said before a rumour
orcs go into her wood
they dont come back

why?

elves kill them

do any orcs make it out alive?

no

so the other orcs who dont go in, think galadriel took them all out herself

stories spread...rumours grow..things are exadgerated

ever played chinese whispers?

Morgoth
Aragorn
Witch King
Aragorn
Eowyn
sauron

Morgoth Vs. Sauron: Yes Morgoth was a Vala (the strongest in the begginning) and Sauron is just a Maia but if it was Sauron at the pinnacle of his power and Morgoth at the lowest Sauron would win. Otherwise Morgoth would kick Sauron's a**

Aragorn Vs. Legolas: If Aragorn could evade Legolas' arrows and het close enough he'd win.

Witch King Vs. Balrog: Balrog easily, the Witch King of Angmar was just a Numenorean, the Balrog was a Maia. It wasn't a mere man that destroyed the Balrog. It was another Maia that killed him, Gandalf.

Isildur Vs. Aragorn: Tough, but probably Aragorn.

Eowyn Vs. Gimli: I would say Gimli though this is debatable

Johnmatrix Vs Sauron: Sauron

glorfindel was very old indeed, took down a balrog (she didnt) and he still ran from the nazgul
aragorn didnt did he? he simply said light a fire.

You're thinking of a different Glorfindel one from Gondolin and he died fighting that Balrog.