Alien vs Predator [merged]

All I know is that from watching AvP it makes other predator movies seem stupid. I mean this predator is kicking the shit out of the alien but it takes him forever to fianlly kill him so watching another predator movie with a predator going agaisnt a human is kinda stupid. The predator is a far more advanced killing machine. In retrospec the predator should have no problem killing a human. I think they should jsut keep making AvP movies and such and just leave humans out.

And im saying this for all movies not just alien and preadtor movies even horror films, they should just have the two bad guys agaisnt each other the humans are pussies and its not fun seeing them get toyed with by the killer like they are easy to kill then all of the sudden seeing the human win. It sucks I think I like it when the bad guys when and when you got two agaisnt each other you no matter what have a bad guy win.

The humans have always been a large aspect in the Avp stories. Not to mention a key link in deciding the outcome. Having a movie with just aliens in predator wouldnt work. I mean where would the dialogue be? If another AvP movie were to be made it would HAVE to have marines in it. The lack of marines is a big reason alot of fans were upset. I think it worked very well though. I wouldnt call the predators a far superior killing machine than humans. It is there weaponry and hunting skills that make them the victor. It is the human spirit, and persistance that make them the victor over the prdator's. I agree with you though. AvP did do a good job on presenting the predator's and aliens presence as killing machines.

As for predator3. I read in Cinescape that it will not have any links to the previous movies. Also i have heard that the movie will shadow the new predator video game, but no one wants to verify anything. I personally hope it is inspired from a comic tale. I think the worst thing they could do is connect the story to the previous movies. Predator is a franchise where they can do anything with the story,and are not restricted to having a sequal tie in to the prior movies.

i hope they dont tie it into the game. I mean, the game looks really cool and all, but i think the movie would be weak if it was modeled after that. The game deals with a predator "breaking hunting codes" on earth and going into exile, but he accidently leaves some of his technology (the first part is in the 1920s). After he is done with exile, he returns to a completely different earth (one that has used pred technology to advance itself) and must try to set things right... mainly by killing off the liniage to the mafia boss that took his stuff...

whats this talk about Alien 5 by signouray weaver. so is their gonna be an A5 movie??

No i would not count on that. sigouney doesnt own any rights to the franchise anymore. this means if someone did want to make another alien film, they do not have to walk around the ripley line anymore. Sigourney would have to find a director, and producer interested, not to mention get the ok from fox. I am not saying this isnt impossible, Alien 5 with sigourney weaver has a better chance getting made, than an alien movie without her, which is very sad.

Everything to do with ripley has been done to death. Her character has been disected, sewed back up and cloned. Any alien movie with sigourney weaver would be one of the worst decesions ever made in Hollywood. after alien 3 the fans did not want to see Ripley anymore, they just wanted aliens. This ***** is only showing interest because AvP diddnt turn out to be the complete failure everyone thought it was going to be. She just wants to suck more blood out of the franchise, before it completely tanks.

Yeah i tend to agree about the predator movie being based on the video game would be a terrible investment. However, the news that i did hear about it shadowing the game, was just that. The movie was going to be similar to the game in essence, but not be the same product, what ever that means. As long as it is a fresh idea with no ties to the other movies i dont care and have enough faith in the project. As for solid plot details. I cannot find anything on the net, It all appears to just be wishfull thinking and believable speculation. Fox has not confirmed anything about the plot, so until an accountable source from them does, i wouldnt believe anyhting.

well what do you know i saw it back opening day......... and was surprised that i was served not a piece of shit, but more of a medium well developed film, it lacked some things in there but im sure the dvd will fill in gaps

me and my friend watched the making of AVP and they were showing the boxes with all the parts for aliens and preds and then they came to one box and said "we cant show u this box becuase its for AVP 2" i thought that was wierd how they already orderd parts for the second.

Doesnt mean they were serious. Anyway many movies are planned to have sequals from there origin. I highly doubt there would be a sequal to AvP. It will not bring in much more than it's budget in the U.S. It may double this with an international release. Not to mention what it may bring in with a directors cut R DvD release. Eigther way i doubt Anderson would return seeing how his film turned out not to be what was released.

i would love it if anderson didnt return... but all of you know that about me already....

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Doesnt mean they were serious. Anyway many movies are planned to have sequals from there origin. I highly doubt there would be a sequal to AvP. It will not bring in much more than it's budget in the U.S. It may double this with an international release. Not to mention what it may bring in with a directors cut R DvD release. Eigther way i doubt Anderson would return seeing how his film turned out not to be what was released.

umm...... about half the cast of LOTR was VERY well known.... Namely certain characters who appeared in x-men, Dracula/star-wars, and the faculty....

the only BAD actor in LOTR is that guy that plays Merry

I was happy that they chose to go with no name actors. Maybe a better lead star is necessary,but for all intents and purposes the cast accomplished their task. In a flick like this, you dont need big stars,just good writing and bad ass effects. I think that the movie lacked a bit on the writing and dialogue though. I was pleased with their performances though.

My Thought on This Movie 😐

Spoiler:

I watched it yesterday with friends. my friends loved teh movie, i thought it was average. 😐 nothing special. Fight scenes was the only great part. Plot was stupid basically in my opinion. And the whole idea of the female being friends with a predator was stupid. the movie was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to short. 🙁 this movie could have been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better 😐

overall: 8.0/10 (and im being nice) also...im not sure if this was better than freddy vs jason.

Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
No Slipknot, Im sick of him BASHING every single post I EVER HAVE! He must HATE the alien and the predator movies, because hes loking for EVERY little narrow hole to bash the movie.
You mustve hated it so much man you are just finding ever little thing to nit-pick in my posts about it.

God if you hated it too where everything I say postivie about the movie you bash, then you SHOULD be on this Sucks thread, but none of the others ive seen you posting on.

God damn... How dare you compare the alien and Predator movies spike out for remeberance with AVP to Land before time...
Honestly... how freggin dare you...

Whoa!! Rock on!!

I liked PvA pretty much but they should have made predator more evil. I was hoping that there would have been more violent kills in that movie but there really wasnt. I expected to much but my expectations were kind of close.

Make the predator more evil? How so? I mean the Predator presence in AvP was the same as the previous films,just a bit more rushed. what more could they have done? They didnt hesitate to kill eigther the humans or aliens, except when the Pred made his decesion twords the girl. Is this what you mean?

yeah, well like said before themovie was quite longer, but was cut .

...not to interrupt but I just want to go the record to say this movie sucked so bad I was truly angry after leaving...but I didn't know it was pg-13 if I knew that I doubt i would have went to see it.

Word. I was really disapointed.