evolution

Started by Darth Revan156 pages

No, it's not a prank, these people are serious. As ridiculous as it sounds.

😆hahahaha, did you see the "children targeted" section? 😆 HARRY POTTER!? the music page? Santana!? HAHAHAHA hysterical

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Maaan, did you guys see the page on Halloween????
"As you can see from all the above the real meaning of Halloween has been watered down. It is Satan's objective to get all to worship him. God tells us to not have any thing to do with this."

Hiiirhirrr...

Or in the section on roleplaying "What you have to understand is Satan is the author of all this perversion."

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That is defintely an "Insultingly Stupid Internet Site"...
(Wipes eyes... That was a good laugh).

Yeah, I know! 😆

And I love the front page too, "Exposing Satanism and God Hating Democrats" 😆

Santana is a satanic GOD-HATER because one of his songs is called "Black Magic Woman"!!!!! fear
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Santana the band?!?!?!? 😄

EY! On the Satanic Music site you can "Dial the truth ministries"!!!
"Welcome to Dial-the-Truth Ministries. We are a Christian resource ministry. Our purpose is presenting the truth and exposing error with the Word of God, with emphasis on The King James Bible, youth issues, prophecy and Christian music."

I wonder who gave THEM the monopoly on the truth...

Oh! Ohhhhhh! Check THIS out http://www.av1611.org/othpubls/savedmov.html

"Dial the Truth Ministries" is a good one too, not quite as funny as the first though. I love their article on how "The Passion" is evil 😆

Yes, Santana the musician. This guy reeeeaaallly looks evil, doesn't he? 🙄

LOL! Good one Omega!
"Two of the surest signs of the soon coming of the Lord Jesus is the unmerciful assault on Bible Believing Christians and the loving acceptance of the vile sin of homosexuality. Both are occurring like a speeding bullet." 😆

"Unmerciful assault."
"The soon coming of the Lord Jesus." Didn't they say that back in 1000 as well? 🙂

As The The once sang "If the REAL Jesus Christ were to stand up today, he'd be gunned down cold by the CIA."

Anyways... Aside from being funny as hell, this stuff is actually also a little scary. Talk about fundamentalism!

I know... the fact that some people actually take this stuff seriously is somewhat disturbing.

Aside from your discussion....evolution is a lie.

Wow, thanks for letting me know, I'll never believe those lying two-faced scientists again! 😱

Seriously though, it DOES help if you give some reasoning. Other than "the Bible told me so". 😐

Okay, we exist. That should be reason enough. If not, I got more.

No, it's not reason enough... Just read some of the thread, and you'll see that there is plenty of proof for evolution.

Uhh want me to prove that we exist using evolution? Cuz I can...

Tpt... If they're too lazy to go read the first few pages of the thread, they don't deserve to know anyways 😉

YEa, speaking of that Im too lazy to tell him anyways

Just the fact that you exist isn't reason enough for you!!!! Okay, evolution is the only science where nothing + nobody = everything (i don't know about you). If one gigantic explosion can create something as complex or as beautiful as a human being, nature, space, things like that, than you are confused.

-Here, first of all, Universe is Greek for "single spoken sentence". God said "Let there be light."
-The first Big Bang theory, thought of in in 1948, first began with an explosion of an object that was two-light-years in diameter, now they say it’s one-thousandth of a proton in diameter!

Here's some questions I have to ask you: (i don't expect you to respond because you can't think of a response)
-Certain laws like gravity, inertia, friction, etc., what or who created those laws, who gives those laws power?
-Law of Conservation of Mass: mass cannot be created or destroyed. If you start out with something one-thousandth of a proton in diameter, then how could you end up with the universe? Then again, how did you get the one-thousandth of a proton from nothing anyway?!
-Law of Conservation of Angular Momentum: all matter in a frictionless environment (space) will travel in the same direction. Why are some planets spinning in different directions than the earth?
-2nd Law of Thermodynamics: from an explosion in space all matter will travel FOREVER.
-If evolution is true, what’s the point to life? You supposedly came from some sort of soup and took off from there and “evolved” to what you are today. If that’s true, then we are just that bacteria, waiting to be improved. Our lives hold much more meaning than that!
-When, where, why, and how did life come from non-living matter?
-With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce with?
-How can recombining of the same genetic code create any new mutations? Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books!
-Why do we breathe an air mixture just perfect for us? If you put a dog on Mars will it “evolve” to breathe the gases there, or would it die?
-Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival?
-If all creature came from one organism, why would it “evolve” ways to eat itself, like predators, wouldn’t this also make its offspring more difficult to survive, but then why did it reproduce in the first place?
-When, where, why, and how did man evolve feelings? Love, mercy, guilt, etc. would never evolve in the theory of evolution.
-Do you honestly believe that everything came from nothing?!?!

Quotes from evolutionists saying that evolution is FALSE:

“Paleontologists have paid an exorbitant price for Darwin’s argument. We fancy ourselves as the only true students of life’s history, yet to preserve our favored account of evolution by natural selection we view our data as so bad that we almost never see the very process we profess to study.”—Stephen Jay Gould, The Panda’s Thumb (1982), pp. 181-182 [Harvard professor and the leading evolutionary spokesman of the latter half of the twentieth century].

“I can envision observations and experiments that would disprove any evolutionary theory I know.”—Stephen Jay Gould, “Evolution as Fact and Theory,” Discover 2(5):34-37 (1981).

“It is almost invariably assumed that animals with bodies composed of a single cell represent the primitive animals from which all others derived. They are commonly supposed to have preceded all other animal types in their appearance. There is not the slightest basis for this assumption.”—Austin Clark, The New Evolution (1930), pp. 235-236.

“I am not satisfied that Darwin proved his point or that his influence in scientific and public thinking has been beneficial… the success of Darwinism was accomplished by a decline in scientific integrity.”—W.R. Thompson, Introduction to Charles Darwin’s, Origin of the Species [Canadian scientist].

If humans were alive for 3 million years, the population would be about 1,500 people per square inch of land on the planet. The earth’s current population is 6.5 billion, the total area of Jacksonville, Florida, is about 12 billion square feet, the whole entire population of the earth could fit into Jacksonville almost twice.

The moon is moving farther and farther away from the earth each year, 1.2 million years ago then, it would have been touching the earth's surface.

The earth is slowing down about a second a day per year, which means the earth use to rotate faster. "Millions" of years ago, the earth would have been spinning so fast, that the centripetal force would have been so fast that everything on the earth’s surface would have been thrown off.

In 1770, students were taught that the earth was 70,000 years old. In 1905, textbooks said the earth was 2 billion years old, in 1969 were taught the earth was 3.5 billion year old. Today students are taught the earth is 4.6 billion years old. If that is true, then the earth is getting older at a rate of 40 years per minute. Hitler even said, “Let me control the textbooks, and I will rule the state.”

Damn, you posted WAY too much for a specific responce so IM going to try and tough on every thing except the quotes, i have nothing to say to them, their just a load of crap.

!) To can get into the Matter anti-matter, with colliding energy theroy. This also disprove that law of conservation. but generaly thats used on Earth where that energy thing can't happen.

The big bang thing is because that matter was very very very very dense, unimaginable dense.

Also you must realize that tecnology is advancing. we know far more now then we did even 100 years ago, more ppl are living longer and being cured from diseases mreo, this adds to mroe population, the growth rate is exponential, its growing on a curve! Same thing about the mood, going faster, as going away.

Physisc created the laws, thats how the big bang occured, the larger and more dense somethign is the more gravity it has. A school bus has mroe gavity than a marble. But its so minute we dont even feel it. everything has a TIIIIINY amount of gravity, but somethign as massive as earth has enough that we can feel it.

Planetary spin has nothing to do with that angular motion law thing. Thats caused from colliding objects and such.

Yes The universe IS expanding, and it works.

Our lives contain NO more meaning than what you said, None! We are waiting to be improved on, it works that way. in anothe 100 million years if we are stil here we will be comletly different and wonder about human bacteria.

Life from non-living matter, its been proven. Its hard to explain, but its been proven.

Have you heard of mitosis and miosis? Yea, thats how the first organisms reproduced.

it MUTATES! the word is MUTATIONS! it changes, DNA gets scrambled! its happens. DNA is really complex, we dun know how it works yet.

We created the Air ourselves, we build it basicly to suit us. as we evolved we changed the air a bit and we changed ourselves, it was a gradual thing. If you could get basic life to exist on Mars, then the organisms would adapt and create air for them selves.

Mitosis, and branch offs, its different, early organisms were produces, and consumers evoves, kinda complex to explain.

Fellings, I dunno, but feelings ARE a part of the brain, probably something to do wiht our social, "Stick together and survive mehanism"

Yes, Yes i do.

Last question:
Science has been wrong in the past, and Im sure some parts are wrong now, In another 200-300 years somethings will have been discovered and proven stuff we know now wrong, science evolves.

There good enough for you?
I feel like I just took a bio test.

Alright, I went through your little list and answered all but two of the questions. I can't be bothered with more right now, maybe in the morning, but I have to get some sleep soon.

"Just the fact that you exist isn't reason enough for you!!!! Okay, evolution is the only science where nothing + nobody = everything (i don't know about you). If one gigantic explosion can create something as complex or as beautiful as a human being, nature, space, things like that, than you are confused."
Not EVERYTHING came out of a single explosion. That's like claiming all music came from the ancients banging on drums... It is true in a way, but to say only that is greatly oversimplifying things.It took us billions of years to get where we are today.

"-Here, first of all, Universe is Greek for 'single spoken sentence'. God said 'Let there be light.'"
And this is supposed to prove that evolution is wrong... how? Photography is Greek for "light writing". Does that mean that when you take a photograph, you literally write with a pen made of light? No, the Greek origin of a word means nothing.

"-The first Big Bang theory, thought of in in 1948, first began with an explosion of an object that was two-light-years in diameter, now they say it’s one-thousandth of a proton in diameter!"
Scientific theory changes over time. Which is why science will ALWAYS be more correct than religion, which hardly changes over millennia.

"-Certain laws like gravity, inertia, friction, etc., what or who created those laws, who gives those laws power?"
Nobody "created" gravity, inertia, and friction. How is it so hard to understand that when you have very large bodies in space, they react to one another? Why is a creator of some kind necessary? Friction comes from objects reacting to other objects on a much smaller scale... Doesn't it make sense that if you throw an object through a physical substance of any kind, it will eventually slow down?

"-Law of Conservation of Mass: mass cannot be created or destroyed. If you start out with something one-thousandth of a proton in diameter, then how could you end up with the universe? Then again, how did you get the one-thousandth of a proton from nothing anyway?!"
tbh, I don't know as much as I'd like to about the Big Bang.. Ask Omega about this one.

"-Law of Conservation of Angular Momentum: all matter in a frictionless environment (space) will travel in the same direction. Why are some planets spinning in different directions than the earth?"
Unless I am gravely misinformed, this has nothing to do with planets spinning in a different direction. Basically what it means is that if I throw a baseball in space, since there is no friction to slow it down, it will keep going forever.

"-2nd Law of Thermodynamics: from an explosion in space all matter will travel FOREVER."
Yeah... and what's your question? Are you claiming it doesn't? Because the universe is still expanding, if you must know.
"-When, where, why, and how did life come from non-living matter?"
Honestly, I don't know.

"-If evolution is true, what’s the point to life? You supposedly came from some sort of soup and took off from there and 'evolved' to what you are today. If that’s true, then we are just that bacteria, waiting to be improved. Our lives hold much more meaning than that!"
Who said there had to be a point to life? You're not proving anything with that. I don't believe there is necessarily a "point" to life, that's not preventing me from living a life that is meaningful and healthy to me.

"-With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce with?"
With... gametes. That's what sexual reproduction is. Wooooowww, incredible how sexual reproduction is the same as sexual reproduction........

"-How can recombining of the same genetic code create any new mutations? Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books!"
Written alphabets are in no way shape or form equivalent to DNA. Saying they are is again, way oversimplifying things. *pulls out genetics textbook* (yes, I really do have a genetics textbook at home) In fact, if you'll do some research, you'll find that nobody is claiming recombining of the same genetic code will create new mutations: "A mutation is any heritable change in the genetic material that is not caused by genetic recombination. Mutations of genes may occur spontaneously or may be induced experimentally by the application of mutagens."

"-Why do we breathe an air mixture just perfect for us? If you put a dog on Mars will it “evolve” to breathe the gases there, or would it die?"
I've explained this so many times in this thread it's starting to become painful... But I'll do it again. We breathe the air we breathe because we evolved that way to breathe it. Back when we were single-cellular monerans, we didn't need to breathe air. But as we started getting bigger, we needed new ways to get energy for ourselves, besides just wrapping our cell membranes around smaller organisms and engulfing them... It's not like the way we work is the ONE way life could have evolved, and out of some miracle, nothing went wrong as we were evolving and we incredibly survived to the present day. The reason things work the way they do is because of what happened in the past, not what is to come in the future.

"-Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kind since this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of survival?"
This is honestly one of the most obvious questions I've heard in this thread... It's because if nobody reproduced, there would be no little slime-molds and what have you to carry on the species. In fact, I just thought of an answer to the "purpose" question--our sole purpose as living animals is to reproduce and ensure the long-term survival of the species. Slime-molds and tube-worms are not logical creatures, and they are not capable of reasoning that they as individuals would have a better chance of survival if they didn't reproduce.

"-If all creature came from one organism, why would it 'evolve' ways to eat itself, like predators, wouldn’t this also make its offspring more difficult to survive, but then why did it reproduce in the first place?"
Yes, obviously, but in nature, the rule is survival of the fittest. Having predators is actually a good thing, in that it keeps the species strong... For example, a pack of wolves will typically go after a slower moose first, which is typically a weaker specimen. So by killing the weak moose, the wolves are helping to keep the herd of moose strong.

"-When, where, why, and how did man evolve feelings? Love, mercy, guilt, etc. would never evolve in the theory of evolution."
Why not? We have very complex brains, and when you're so damn smart, it's hard not to have thoughts about yourself and other people. Some animals display love, mercy, and guilt... It's not a uniquely human trait if that's what you're implying.

"-Do you honestly believe that everything came from nothing?!?!"
My reasoning that everything came from nothing means no less sense than your reasoning that God has existed forever.