The Passion of Christ

It isn't insulting anyone to say that I think a film is boring. If they take it as an insult then thats their problem, not mine.

I don't care if it's like actual footage, that means nothing to me. That doesn't automatically equate into an interesting scene in a film. If that was the case, then a 3 hour long film in which we watch grass grow would be intersting by default.

Also, you may be right, I haven't timed the grandpa scene, I'm not quite that pathetic. All I know is the torture scenes in the Passion are much longer and drawn out. And to me, boring.

If you can't accept that I think this film is boring then good for you, that's your problem.

Also, I can see how people think the film glorifies the torture of Jesus Christ. I personally don't, but I understand why some people do. I think it's probably because it tries to enhance the scenes with dramatic slow motion camera movements and music, they simply gave it the hollywood treatment by making it overly dramatic. I think had they just showed it without all the big camera movements and slow motion effects, it would have been a much stronger and more poignient scene.

Also, it is indeed a stupid comment that you made. You're basically judging an entire group of countries and the people that live there just because of the success (or lack there of) of a movie. That is indeed foolish in every sense of the word.

Originally posted by Omegaman
For the record the whipping scene last under 10 mintues! And in case you didnt know the movie IS intended to show all of the torture Jesus endured, so its kind of necessary to show everything as it happened. Also for those of you who didnt know... research the movie's title...its means "the suffering of the Christ", so you should have know going in what you were going to see! I did , so I saw what I expected to. Educating yourself ...its a good thing, try it!

I did expect there to be beatings and torture, however I also thought there would be an actual film behind that torture. With character development and what not. As someone who doesn't believe in the story of Jesus Christ, I was expecting to be moved because of character development. I was sadly mistaken, there was none. The only part of the film that I really thought highly of was the flashback scenes where we actually got to see Jesus Christ living a normal life. Especially the one with him and his mother, that was probably the strongest scene in the whole film.

that music and slow motion camera thing is so true, spielberg his comment about that still lingers....

What did Spielberg say?

what is the difference, please explain. Here in the US, if you say that something that a person says is stupid , then you are implying that they must be stupid to say it. It might be masking an insult but its still an insult. And I bet , it was meant as an insult in this case.

Its sad that NO movie EVERY made you sympathize with a character. I guess my attention span as you call it , must be better than yours and backfires.

The big difference to me, is if the scenes are from a made up movie like texas chainsaw mass, or freddy lives rather than being in a movie like the Passion or Schindler's list which are about events that actually happened, you know REAL history!

what are those numbers I gave you??
that's the 5-day gross! that little thingie you said Passion had the record of 😂
it's ranked THIRD, not first

Actually, I have sympathized with many characters in films. I have been brought to tears by many of them, because the film was good and it actually developed the character, which made me care about the character I was watching.

to me there is a difference between having compassion for a character and sympatizing I sympatize with the ideas the character stand for, and every character in any movie stands for ideas

anyways Spielberg once responded to a critic who had said that Schindler's List wasn't a real biography "There are no real biographies, they are always a movie, or have you ever heard a stringing kwartet play on the street when someone died?"

yeah , like I care what speilberg would say, he is just jealous!

Something you just dont seem to get, I could care less what you think is boring about the Passion, I see what you call entertainment and interesting , so enough said! I am just stating MY opinion of the movie and MY opinion on the statements you said! ANd if YOU have a probelm with that, too bad(in your words!).

Again, I dont care what you think is a stupid statement, come on youve got a picture of a make believe serial killer as a sig! ha ha, yeah right Im the stupid one??? If you cant see the point, let me spell it out for you guys....the fact that there are more people interested(christians) in the topic of this movie-The Passion here in the USA than in say Norway or some other euporpean country makes me glad I live where I do. I would much rather live in a country that would want to see the Passion than lotr! IF you think that is "stupid" then you are just proving my point even more!

Originally posted by Omegaman
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Kes, you as a moderator shouldnt be calling someone stupid, is that type of insulting allowed? If so , I can call them like I see them too!
>>>How someone can find that the movie "glorifies" the pain is what I would call "stupid"

yerssy, what are you talking about?WHat are those numbers?

HOw

Its good to hear you can have compassion but its sad that you have none for Jesus, I can only wonder why?

ANd yerssy, Ive got a website for you to check out where I got my numbers, so try again!

Dude not everyone believes what you believe!

why would he be jealous of the passion, the quote has no relation to the passion it was said long before the passion ever came out, since it was about schindler's list which spielberg directed himself, he can't be jealous of his own movie

Kes, you were the first to make an actual insult, not me! If you find my opinion insulting that is another thing!

Tell me , by your statement , am I not allowed to have an opinion that is different than yours??

As far as me being right about everything, I can argue that if you want to, so far on here anyway, I dont see where I am wrong since we have mostly been talking about a movie.

Originally posted by Omegaman
ANd yerssy, Ive got a website for you to check out where I got my numbers, so try again!

you got a website? good for you, what is it? imchristian.com???

go check a decent moviesite imdb and boxofficemojo are known enough to give CORRECT date, or just do a quick search of which movie exactly holds that 5-day gross

When did I say different?? By the same token (thank goodness) not everyone believes like you ,either!!

Originally posted by Omegaman
Its good to hear you can have compassion but its sad that you have none for Jesus, I can only wonder why?

that comment directed to me

and I have no compassion for jesus to me he was nothing more than a common low life criminal, who somehow got ppl to follow him, why? I do not know and I'd like to find out

I do however greatly respect everything the bible teaches altho a lot of ppl just take out of it what they find useful

The difference is that I'm not getting obviously upset over a simple difference in opinion as you obviously are. I have no problem with you, or anyone else liking The Passion. You do, however, have a problem with me and anyone else NOT liking the film.

"Again, I dont care what you think is a stupid statement, come on youve got a picture of a make believe serial killer as a sig! ha ha, yeah right Im the stupid one???"

Oh no, God forbid I like a fictional character, no one else in the world does, right? I'm sure you don't like any fictional characters in any films.

Bottom line is this, I have no problem accepting your opinion of the film. I respect your right to like and dislike whatever you want without PMSing about it. You should try to do the same, rather then desperatly trying to counter my negative opinions for a film in the thread dedicated to that said film, with silly little laughable comments like "but you like TCm and Leatherface! What do you know!!". Wonderful way of proving your point, that may work if you were in the third grade, but those types of defenses against films are simply irrelevant here.

"Im the stupid one???" - Yep, you said it, not me.

Actually the site in a european one! do a search on indielondon.uk-film, you should find it under title..passion breaks 5 day gross. You do the work!

Originally posted by Omegaman
Kes, you were the first to make an actual insult, not me! If you find my opinion insulting that is another thing!

Tell me , by your statement , am I not allowed to have an opinion that is different than yours??

As far as me being right about everything, I can argue that if you want to, so far on here anyway, I dont see where I am wrong since we have mostly been talking about a movie.

You're opinion is not the way you express it is.

You always start this argument! Why judge what BFs fave movies are? Whats the point?! Whatever is fave movie is has nothing to do with this movie and doesnt stop him from having the right to not like this movie!

You are forcing down everyones throat the whole God and Jesus thing. Like I said we dont all believe the same thing!