silver surfer vs superman

Started by Cosmic Cube51 pages

Originally posted by kgkg
Exactly he is telling us he wasn't fast enough.

Look at my calculations 🙂

Not hard to see who wins now. 🙂

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Not hard to see who wins now. 🙂
Damn got to go sleep good night everybody enjoy the scans look very closely and study it 🙂

And this is from Superman #207 which was suppose to be an evidence for FTL well so much for that

Good night

FTL... 😆

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Regardless, Surfer could learn to use this technique through telepathy in mere nanoseconds. All he has to do is read Superman's mind. Speaking of which, Surfer could discover any of Superman's weaknesses through telepathy, including his vulnerability to red sunlight.

For some reason, its not considered "true" telepathy, or supes would be a mind reader. Surfer would not read Kals mind if he does not want it read. He's gone up against telepaths many times. Lets not get ridiculous now.

Look up to my Neo and Train man example above. Unless you did not see the second matrix film?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
For some reason, its not considered "true" telepathy, or supes would be a mind reader. Surfer would not read Kals mind if he does not want it read. He's gone up against telepaths many times. Lets not get ridiculous now.

Look up to my Neo and Train man example above. Unless you did not see the second matrix film?

You say Supes would be able to somehow force SS into this psychic battlefield, but SS hasn't a hope of even reading Supes's mind? why do I get the feeling youre dismissing SS out of hand? 😱 Mind-reading is one of the easiest psychic feats to perform- it doesnt involve dominating another's will like mental control or mind wiping, something that obviously would be quite hard to do against Superman.

and ouch, Supes's speed really got trashed here. So I guess SS speedblitzes HIM. 😉

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
I seem to recall Venom kicking Superman's ass in a crossover, do you really want to bring those up? 😄

my point exactly

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
It lets Supes mentally will an opponent into a matrix like arena out of the physical world where where he sets all the environment rules and weapons.

It's a psyonic kryptonian martial art.

it is just me or this is like one of the worst things they invented for superman? he can´t do that withou using telepathy it doesn´t make any sense, even so i doubt that this could not be broken.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
For some reason, its not considered "true" telepathy, or supes would be a mind reader. Surfer would not read Kals mind if he does not want it read. He's gone up against telepaths many times. Lets not get ridiculous now.

Look up to my Neo and Train man example above. Unless you did not see the second matrix film?

Superman wouldn't even know the Surfer was reading his mind. Superman isn't totally resistant to telepathy, either. I'm not being ridiculous. Surfer is a monumental telepath. Superman's mind was invaded by White Martians. There's no comparison. They were able to find his weakness, why not Surfer?

Regardless, Surfer could read Superman's energy patterns and find his weakness without reading his mind. It's called cosmic awareness.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Superman wouldn't even know the Surfer was reading his mind. Superman isn't totally resistant to telepathy, either. I'm not being ridiculous. Surfer is a monumental telepath. Superman's mind was invaded by White Martians. There's no comparison. They were able to find his weakness, why not Surfer?

Regardless, Surfer could read Superman's energy patterns and find his weakness without reading his mind. It's called cosmic awareness.

Is that why telepaths have gone after supes before, yet Supes identity are still a secret?

Either way..we have gone off the subject. This wont help SS with torquasm vo.

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
You say Supes would be able to somehow force SS into this psychic battlefield, but SS hasn't a hope of even reading Supes's mind? why do I get the feeling youre dismissing SS out of hand? 😱 Mind-reading is one of the easiest psychic feats to perform- it doesnt involve dominating another's will like mental control or mind wiping, something that obviously would be quite hard to do against Superman.

and ouch, Supes's speed really got trashed here. So I guess SS speedblitzes HIM. 😉

There is still nothing here showing SS h2h at light speed is there? The few scans i've seen here prove nothing.

I'm also guessing you have mind-reading powers, since you think you know its exact requirements? 😆

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
There is still nothing here showing SS h2h at light speed is there? The few scans i've seen here prove nothing.

I'm also guessing you have mind-reading powers, since you think you know its exact requirements? 😆

We have already explained that Surfer doesn't fight hand to hand. If Surfer can move his arms at faster than light speed, move at faster than light speed, think at faster than light speed and react at faster tan lightspeed, why wouldn't e be able to fight at faster than light speed?

Besides, he doesn't need to. We've seen that Superman doesn't move anywhere near lightspeed. Dvampire's post is a list of lies.

It's funny that you think Superman could force Surfer onto this plane, but you don't think Surfer could read Superman's mind, although Surfer's mind is far more powerful.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Is that why telepaths have gone after supes before, yet Supes identity are still a secret?

Either way..we have gone off the subject. This wont help SS with torquasm vo.

That is a poor explanation. None of the telepaths he has fought threatened to expose Superman. Telepathy was used on Superman by beings who are far from the Silver Surfer in telepathic power.

We aren't off topic.

You haven't truly explained what Torquasm-vo is, or why Surfer wouldn't be able to resist entering the plane altogether.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
That is a poor explanation. None of the telepaths he has fought threatened to expose Superman. Telepathy was used on Superman by beings who are far from the Silver Surfer in telepathic power.

You haven't truly explained what Torquasm-vo is, or why Surfer wouldn't be able to resist entering the plane altogether.

I've explained it. If you need more info, or refuse to believe what I've posted..then look it up.

Dominus was taken in, and he's quite above the surfer.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I've explained it. If you need more info, or refuse to believe what I've posted..then look it up.

Dominus was taken in, and he's quite above the surfer.

No, you haven't.

Prove that Dominus didn't willingly enter the field, or that he is above the Surfer. I am no longer accepting word of mouth. All I have heard is lies. Prove it.

Post the entire page that scan is from.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
No, you haven't.

Prove that Dominus didn't willingly enter the field, or that he is above the Surfer. I am no longer accepting word of mouth. All I have heard is lies. Prove it.

Dominus, cosmic being who seeks to take Kismets place. Kismet is an eternity type being in the DCU. SS is nowhere near that level of power.

I don't have to sit around and prove anything to you. You either believe it or dont. Feel free to pick up the books and read. Do the research.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Dominus, cosmic being who seeks to take Kismets place. Kismet is an eternity type being in the DCU. SS is nowhere near that level of power.

I don't have to sit around and prove anything to you. You either believe it or dont. Feel free to pick up the books and read. Do the research.

Kismet is not on par with Eternity.

You're being quite the hypocrite. You ask for proof, and I give it to you. Am I not entitled the same courtesy? It sounds like you're hiding something.

What are you guys talking about?

What did I miss?

Dominus mind controlled Superman, and he's nowhere near the Surfer in power. All he is capable of is mind control of lesser beings and projecting illusions. He sounds more like Mysterio. 😆

Originally posted by kgkg
What are you guys talking about?

What did I miss?

He's saying that Superman will be able to force Surfer onto an extraphysical plane where Superman is basically god, but he is unwilling to prove it.

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
You say Supes would be able to somehow force SS into this psychic battlefield, but SS hasn't a hope of even reading Supes's mind? why do I get the feeling youre dismissing SS out of hand? 😱 Mind-reading is one of the easiest psychic feats to perform- it doesnt involve dominating another's will like mental control or mind wiping, something that obviously would be quite hard to do against Superman.

and ouch, Supes's speed really got trashed here. So I guess SS speedblitzes HIM. 😉

Superman #207 was to prove that he could speedbiltz, not how fast he could go. Supes is faster then light, he gets to Earth to Pluto (Imperiex Our Worlds at war) in no time.

In Superman #217 he stats that it took him years to acclimate to that speed (speed of light), and that in the vacuum of space, it's all fun. But on earth, he has to calculate subtle pressure dynamics, air flow, and inertia. He always slows when flying over populated areas to eliminate the sonic boom he creates. He even pluged Lois them ears as he pass by with the his speed.

And Superman took Darkseid from Earth to the sun in seconds and speed biltz him.

And you people keep saying Sufer can speedbiltz but he never does.