One betrayal more in man spider 2, doc ock wont be myopic

I must admit, the "power ranger" Green Goblin was a little much. The organic Web-Shooters were very unnecessary. Macy Grey was an ABOMINATION to the sacred name of Spider-Man, but that does not constitute calling it bad. It was a good movie.

As was stated before, I apologize for not noting their name, changes from book, movie, video game, board game, etc., are going to happen when making them into a movie. It is INEVIDABLE! However, needless changes like the organics make people angry. But, do not let something as insignificant as that ruin a perfectly good movie for you.

I loved the organic web-shooters thing, I'm glad they didn't make it hey had web-canisters they he need to fill, thats just gay, theres no material that he could have made strong enough to support his weight and the weight of others.

for freddy vs jason the "how to" of the whole webshooter idea

Weapons: Spider-Man uses web-shooters which are twin devices worn on his wrists which can shoot thin strands of a special “web fluid” at high pressure. The web fluid is a shear-thinning liquid (virtually solid until a shearing force is applied to it, rendering it fluid) whose exact formula is as yet unknown, but is related to nylon. On contact with air, the long-chain polymer knits and forms an extremely tough, flexible fiber with extraordinary adhesive properties. The web fluid’s adhesive quality diminishes rapidly with exposure to air. (Where it does not make contact with air, such as the attachment disk of the web-shooter, it remains very adhesive.) After about 2 hour, certain imbibed ether cause the solid form of the web fluid to dissolve into a powder. Because the fluid almost instantly sublimates from solid to liquid when under shear pressure, and is not adhesive in its anaerobic liquid/solid phase transition point, there is no clogging of the web-shooter’s parts.

The spinneret mechanism in the web-shooter is machined from stainless steel, except for the turbine component, which is machined out of a block of Teflon and the two turbine bearings, which are made of amber and artificial sapphire. The wristlet and web fluid cartridges are mainly nickel-plated annealed brass. Spider-Man’s web cartridge belt is made out of brass and light leather and holds up to 30 cartridges. The cartridges are pressurized to 300 pounds per square inch and sealed with a bronze cap which is silver soldered closed. The wristlets have sharp steel nipples, which pierce the bronze cap when the cartridges are tightly wedged into their positions. A palm switch that is protected by a band of spring steel, which requires a 65 pounds pressure to trigger, actuates the hand-wound solenoid needle valve. The switch is situated high on the palm to avoid most unwanted firings. A rubber seal protects the small battery compartment. The effect of the very small turbine pump vanes is to compress (share) the web fluid and then force it, under pressure, through the spinneret holes which cold-draws it (stretches it: the process wherein nylon gains a four-fold increase in tensile strength), then extrudes it through the air where it solidifies. As the web fluid exits the spinneret holes, it is attracted to itself electro statically and thus can form complex shapes. The spinneret holes have three sets of adjustable, staggered openings around the turbine, which permit a single line, a more complex, spun web line, and a thick stream. The web line’s tensile strength is estimated to be 120 pounds per square millimeter of cross section. The 300 pounds per square inch of pressure in each cartridge is sufficient to force a stream of the complex web pattern an estimated 60 feet (significantly farther if shot in a ballistic parabolic arc).

Originally posted by Freddy_vs_Jason
I loved the organic web-shooters thing, I'm glad they didn't make it hey had web-canisters they he need to fill, thats just gay, theres no material that he could have made strong enough to support his weight and the weight of others.

Um, The Spiders bite gave him the knowledge on how to create man-sized spider webbing, therefore making it super strong. Only Peter could make the webbing.

All you had to do was watch the 90's cartoon, it was simple enough to understand.

Think about everything that Spiderman can now CANNOT do. Sure, he doesn't have the whole "oh no! out of webbing" thing anymore, which is a plus for him, but bad for the people who want a bit of drama.

Comic book "fans" seem to want powers, and more powers, with a side order of invincibility. Nobody cares about adding drama to a story anymore, or adding mythos, they all want super-powers that cannot be beaten. Spider-mans webshooters were devised by Stan Lee for a reason, they were both his greatest strength and his weakness.

You see, Spider-man could run out of web-fluid, but in oder to beat certain enemies (lets use Hydro-Man) he had to think like Peter Parker. He mixed a gelatin substance into his webbing which froze Hydro Man still. Little things like this will be missed from the movies. Instead, all we will see Spider-man do is beat his enemies with brute strength - when in the comics Spider-Man would regularly get his butt whupped by his enemies, and would have to go away and think about what he could do to beat them.

You should download the old Spiderman cartoons from the 90's, from the first couple of seasons. It will show you how Spiderman used to operate. The movie Spiderman just attacks in a cool way so ppl like him

My only arguement (aside from a lot of the aforementioned changes, eg. organics) was the soundtrack. If I have to hear that really bad Chad/Josie song "Hero" one more time, I might just go insane. But, that remains to be seen.

where do you download them from, i missed so much of them and would like to see them.

They should just bring out the DVD's already.

right on brother.

I'm watching them now, its the one with Daredevil in it. One of the best ones.

The one where Peter is arrested and good ole' Matt comes to the rescue?

I liked the Secret Wars and the Venom/Carage saga.

Originally posted by The Ones
im a true spider-man fan and i like spider-man, its the first spider-man movie that got me liking spider-man, no, your wrong, spider-man fans wont mind the changes, even if they are major as long as theres a good plot and a good way to defeting doc ock and they dont screw up (they better bloody not) then ill be satisfied, as well as the true fans since i think i am the #1 spider-man fan

actually you would qualify as the #1 Man-spider fan since you love those moronic organic webshooters so much. 😄

Originally posted by Bagtatta
If you started liking Spider-Man from the 1st movie..then you're not a true fan. a True fan is a long time liker, fool.

At least Doc. Ock doens't look as shitty as Green Goblin..god he looked horrible. I agre that the Gwen Stacey switch is BS, and is stupid. And I don't like the glasses missing..but I can deal, otherwise..the new one doesn't look as shitty as the first one..

well said Bagdatta.yeah if you started liking him from the first movie your not a true fan,a true fan is somebody who is a long time fan and doesnt accept a stupid movie like this manspider movie. 🙄

Originally posted by who?-kid
That's the dumbest thing I read here on the forums, and that's saying a lot. People have to start somewhere, don't they ? If they get to know and like Spider-man, and become a fan thanks to the first movie, why not ?

because they did NOT get to know "SPIDER-MAN" from the first film,they got to know a manspider monster. 🙄

Originally posted by max
why the **** does everybody hate the spider-man movie just because they dident keep it true to the original comics, i mean ultimate spider-man is nothing like the original comics and everybody loves it. i did not like the spider-man first movie or what they made the green goblin look like in the movie but i dont say they ruined spider-man. the movie was just like a bad comic, you dont go on and on about how much you hate it, i mean thats just bullshit.

not me,I hate that comic book.we hate it because it was the character of man-spider we saw NOT SPIDER-MAN. 🙄

Originally posted by Zephonim
Mr. Parker, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN STUPID TO MAKE THE WEB SHOOTERS!! Let me ask you a few questions; would you prefer organic webs or web shooters that appeared from nowhere and had no reasoning behind them; how would you have changed the Goblin costume; why are you pissed about Mary Jane? Gwen wasn't even the first girl Parker was interested in.

no its stupid to make a spiderman movie without the mechs and call it spiderman when the character is manspider. 🙄 because they screwed up MJS character making her into gwen stacy just like they did in the 90's cartoon,a total stupid change just like many in the film and they are doing the same with the 2nd one having him still wear glasses when he is in college.

Originally posted by VENOMfan
well heres my rant about the Spiderman films.....
the "power ranger" Goblin was pretty terrible.

but could they have taken the original costume and expected a better reation?

I dont think so, it worked in comics but if sombody looks like that on the big screen he will be luaghed at not feared. the real Goblin costumes that I feel would have made a good transition are
Phil Ulrich the 4th Goblin and coolest looking IMO

and maybe the second costume Norman wore that looked like what the movie version should have been.

hate to tell you this but many people DID laugh at the goblin costume who were NOT SPIDER-MAN fans especially over that ventriliquest act with no mouth movement. 😆 hell yeah the comic costume could have worked on screen.

Originally posted by kal-el
this is the best spiderman pic ive seen.

you mean man-spider pic.thats the character of man-spider under the costume. 🙄

Originally posted by Freddy_vs_Jason
I loved the organic web-shooters thing, I'm glad they didn't make it hey had web-canisters they he need to fill, thats just gay, theres no material that he could have made strong enough to support his weight and the weight of others.

yep most manspider fans do love the organics. 🙄

Mr Parker,

I have to say I argee with you. The part about how he fought Hydro-Man was a very good point. Artificial webbing is what made Spider-Man Spider-Man, not Man-Spider. A point you have hammered home.

Anyways, one thing you have neglected to mention, and I think I may have read it somewhere, is that it is a weakness of his. How many times in the 90's cartoon did he plummet because his carterage was empty? Or, in the Rocket Raiders episode, "Out of webbing, no captured bad guys? I left (insert current girlfriend. Might have been MJ) for this?!?"

The organics really made me mad when I watched it for the first time, and me and my friend had a debate on the way home. They could have done it with the artificial ones and it would have not been stupid.

But, on the same note, why not a RADIOACTIVE SPIDER like in the comic? Why a genetically altered or what ever the shit it was? It was a good movie, I liked it. But, the UNNECESSARY CHANGES are the sliver in the ass. A good cake, but the icing tasted like soap. If that even makes sense.

But, changes like that, are inevitable. Look at the Return of the King. (Off topic, so I will stop, but if you want to hear my rant and rave about that, I will probably post it later tonight.)

Originally posted by Mr Parker
hate to tell you this but many people DID laugh at the goblin costume who were NOT SPIDER-MAN fans especially over that ventriliquest act with no mouth movement. 😆 hell yeah the comic costume could have worked on screen.

so........Im not quite following, what I said was the "power ranger" costume obviously was either thrown together or made by the guys who whipped up the suits for Mortal Kombat:Annihilation((didnt that win a grammy? no? anyhow..))

but If they tried to say "hollywood" the original Green Goblin costume I fear it would have also been bad but to a slightly lesser extent.

what I mean is Spiderman and DareDevil didnt have severe coustume changes, they were altered but still had the familar look.

where say the X-men, Green Goblin and Kingpin had severe costume changes....Kingpin was quite severe.

anyhow even the slightest cosmetic change to the original Goblin would not have been enuf to make it look alright. but thats just my opinion

what I would have rather seen instead of a whole new character they should have used the Phil Ulrich Goblin costume, I belive that could have translated well.