Wolverine VS Cyclops

Originally posted by jplatinum
Actually, its true.

Logan has the speed to dodge the optic blast, he's dodged bullets at point blank range and sliced up several guns that were shooting at him.

Keep in mind that these were machine guns, that shoot bullets faster than the 700 mph that normal bullets fly.
If logan can dodge several of these at point blank range with his reflexes than he can sure nough dodge cyclops' blast even if it is put on spread, remember the blast extends as it gets farther away, so at close distance it is still narrow enough for logan to dodge it.

Oh, even if logan was hit by it, Regular wolverine would be half unconcious at most. And would begin to heal instantly, it cyclops kept blasting him(assuming he could actually hit him/wolverine just stood there and let him), the worse that the blast would do is knock logan out for a while, cyclops would also be totally drained from over exhaustion of his power and would fallout.

Wolverine would be healed, up on his feet, and slicing cyclops into a million pieces before cyclops could completely heal to fighting condition.

PLus, How do you propose that cyclops will not drain himself.
The blast isn't always on! It is controled by the red glasses and by the red visor. Its the color and the type of material that allows him to keep this power under control.

Some type of color thing.

You idiot! You actually think that he is allways in blasting mode, that can't happen.

In fact, on many times, he's went all out with his power for a few seconds and nearly died cause he exhausted his power too much.

If he managed to hit logan, a big "if", it would be a miracle if he could blast all out for more than a couple minutes without dropping dead himself.

To think that he is constantly, on blasting mode is stupid.
Logan wins one of three ways.

1.He is blasted all out by cyclops, and heals later to killed a half dead exhausted cyclops.

2. Logan dodges the blast(which is the most likely) and takes cyclops out in one or two hits.

3. Logan doesn't even use his claws(which he doesn't eed to take care of scott) and knocks scott out by punching him a couple of times with those adamantium laced fists.
( I can imagine it must hurt like hell to be be hit by someone with peak human strength inhanced reflexes(speed kills) adamantium laced bones martial-arts training=dead cyclops in a couple hard punches.)

Imagine mike reeves with adamantium bones.
He'd be able to punched through a 6 feet stack of concrete, probably.
Imagine that mike reeves is logan, now imagine him hitting scott's head with that much force.

Scotts head would cave in faster than a coconut being hit by a metal sledge hammer.

[Jean scoops up scott's brain from the floor.]

You know, throughout all the drama that happened with you, I supported you. But now, now I just don't know anymore, JP. I just don't know how to feel anymore.

Cyclops optic blasts are indeed ALWAYS on. The ruby quartz just regulate the energies that escape his sight. And I dunno what Cyclops you've been reading, but he won't be exhausted in 10 seconds. In face, since it is always on, he can fire beams off for hours before he feels any fatigue whatsoever. And hell, if it's daytime? Even easier. The solar energy helps to both open the dimensional portal to his power and to store more of it in his body. So he'll basically be plugged in during the day. Even when it's nighttime, he can fire beams for hours.

Sorry, Wolverine loses. Just like he always will against Cyke.

There's a difference from dodging machine gun fire and Cyke's optic blasts. For one, he hardly ever misses. Like...less than .5% of the time he misses. And especially this close. Scott is NOT going to miss him.

Half unconscious, haha. If Scott hits him dead on, it's going to both hurt and severely hinder/knock him out. We both know that one powerful blast can do it. And he's not going to stop with just one, guys. When Scott hits him once, he'll hit him again and again. Scott's FAR too smart and strategic to give Logan a fighting chance at all.

This is like a boxer fighting an excellent marksman in projectiles. Not much of a chance here.

Cyclops wins.

Me too I prefer Logan to scott but cyke takes this one.

By the way black robb nice sig. haveu seen the trailer? "Soon we must all make the choice between what is right and what is easy....."

Originally posted by willRules
thats a good point but when you consider the fact that cyke doesnt have to carefully aim when he can let loose a wide beam optic blast, then its a repeat of that pic someone posted of Scott obliterating sinister................

ok cool then i agree with you 😄

wolverine of course would kick Cyclops butt. Ive seen afew xmen episodes where they go at it cyclops get afew licks at him but wolverine knocked him down. wolverine is one of the best hand to hand fighters.

Originally posted by gladiator69
wolverine of course would kick Cyclops butt. Ive seen afew xmen episodes where they go at it cyclops get afew licks at him but wolverine knocked him down. wolverine is one of the best hand to hand fighters.

It's just too bad he won't be able to use his hands in this match at all.

You know, what with Cyclops thrashing the hell out of him with optic blasts.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
It's just too bad he won't be able to use his hands in this match at all.

You know, what with Cyclops thrashing the hell out of him with optic blasts.

wolverine has much better fighting skills then cyclops and hes faster to. wolverine would get to him before even Cyclops can shoot him. i don't know if you have watched any episodes before or not.

Originally posted by gladiator69
wolverine has much better fighting skills then cyclops and hes faster to. wolverine would get to him before even Cyclops can shoot him. i don't know if you have watched any episodes before or not.

Haha...Oh, man. This is great.

Yes, yes I have in fact. I've seen many many episodes of X-men. I used to watch it all the time. And I've never seen anything like that.

But, since this is a COMIC BOOK DEBATE, let's keep it to comics, shall we?

In the comics, Wolverine has never bested Cyke when Cyke was trying to beat him.

I don't know how fast you think Wolverine is, but he's not fast enough to dodge Cyclops's optic blast.

please dont even go there saying that wolverine is not fast enough from moving from cyclops's blast.

Originally posted by gladiator69
please dont even go there saying that wolverine is not fast enough from moving from cyclops's blast.

Well, let's see.

::Reads his own post again::

Yep, looks like I went there.

Prove me wrong.

hahaha how many xmen comic books do you have pall Ive seen 2 already where cyclops and wolverine go at it. and yes cyclops does shoot him with Cyclops's blast but wolverine gets back up cause he has a healing ability. and at the end wolverine. there's some where there's many where they team up them selves and help each other out but every book i see that they go at it wolverine wins.

Originally posted by gladiator69
hahaha how many xmen comic books do you have pall Ive seen 2 already where cyclops and wolverine go at it. and yes cyclops does shoot him with Cyclops's blast but wolverine gets back up cause he has a healing ability. and at the end wolverine. there's some where there's many where they team up them selves and help each other out but every book i see that they go at it wolverine wins.

You know what's funnier? The fact that all you just did was bring up something else, instead of Wolverine dodging Cyke's blasts, which I assume was our originial argument.

And yes. One blast is not going to kill Wolverine. I never said that. Healing factor will definitely keep him in the fight. If you can call it a fight so much as Cyclops optically having his way with Wolverine.

it would still only be a fight if cyclops shoots him. wolverine would heal up like i said. but he would still get up go at him or anyone else. wolverine keeps on going even if he knows that hes gonna get his ass kicked from some he will still go for it cause wolverine doesn't stand down to no one. unless if jean grey where to offer him a nice kiss then I'm sure he would follow her orders. lol

Originally posted by gladiator69
it would still only be a fight if cyclops shoots him. wolverine would heal up like i said. but he would still get up go at him or anyone else. wolverine keeps on going even if he knows that hes gonna get his ass kicked from some he will still go for it cause wolverine doesn't stand down to no one. unless if jean grey where to offer him a nice kiss then I'm sure he would follow her orders. lol

That's what I'm saying. He'll keep taking it. And it'll get worse for him everytime, cuz he'll still be partially wounded when Cyke hits him with the next blast. Cyke can just continuously pound on Wolverine with his optic blast until he's either completely knocked out cold or dead.

Originally posted by peejayd
* well, who likes you either?

I don't like Cyclops so that is your response to me??? I think you take comics a smidge too seriously, bud. You'd think I insulted your mom or something. I don't like Spider-man either. Oops, does that warrant a death threat?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
You know, throughout all the drama that happened with you, I supported you. But now, now I just don't know anymore, JP. I just don't know how to feel anymore.

Cyclops optic blasts are indeed ALWAYS on. The ruby quartz just regulate the energies that escape his sight. And I dunno what Cyclops you've been reading, but he won't be exhausted in 10 seconds. In face, since it is always on, he can fire beams off for hours before he feels any fatigue whatsoever. And hell, if it's daytime? Even easier. The solar energy helps to both open the dimensional portal to his power and to store more of it in his body. So he'll basically be plugged in during the day. Even when it's nighttime, he can fire beams for hours.

Sorry, Wolverine loses. Just like he always will against Cyke.

There's a difference from dodging machine gun fire and Cyke's optic blasts. For one, he hardly ever misses. Like...less than .5% of the time he misses. And especially this close. Scott is NOT going to miss him.

Half unconscious, haha. If Scott hits him dead on, it's going to both hurt and severely hinder/knock him out. We both know that one powerful blast can do it. And he's not going to stop with just one, guys. When Scott hits him once, he'll hit him again and again. Scott's FAR too smart and strategic to give Logan a fighting chance at all.

This is like a boxer fighting an excellent marksman in projectiles. Not much of a chance here.

Cyclops wins.

wolverine wins ask cyclops he has admitted it i

Manx,

He has blasted at full power and exhausted himself.

Oh, and I didn't mean you were and idiot, I said it for sake of argument, dude.
Don't take my comments so personally.
Its debating, its heated debating, but still debating.

I still say cyclops has to hit logan first, and at close range, this will be difficult.

Cyclops is at athletic human condition and reflexes, logan is peak human condition and inhanced(near super) human reflexes.

This means that logan can move his limbs faster than cyclops can see or hope to dodge.

At close distance, logan can dodge the optic nerve blast cause it is not spread so far, it spread as it goes out, which means logan only has alittle area to worry about being hit cause the bean isn't that big.

Cyclops prepares to blast, logan is a 3 steps ahead of him, he fakes, cyclops lets loose at full power, logan comes in doging to blast and "Raagrrrrh!".
"sniktttt!!!!!!!"

[cyclops' head drops to the floor, jean pukes in disgust.]

[Logan smiles and walks off.]

actauly wolverine is super human level in every thing he above peak human be quite a lot

Originally posted by wolverine8888
actauly wolverine is super human level in every thing he above peak human be quite a lot

Never ever bring a knife to a gun fight. 😉

Why isn't it hard to believe that an inhanced mutant that can heal from just about anything, can survive a nuke or dodge a bullet, yet, you seem to disclaim anyone who says that batman can't do the things he has been written to do!?!

Wolverine is an inhanced level mutant with an adamantium let me repeat adamantium skeleton and an insane healing ability that make him heal from anything as soon as it is done to him.

Batman is only a peakhuman master detective with some fancy fighting moves, some fancy gadgets, and a quick temper.

Okay, that being said, you can beleive batman can trip up flash, punch the hell out of supes, take darksied's punches, beat superhuman beings, beat gods, and slug it out with damn near everyone, but you can't believe that wolverine, who is many times better in every possible way, can dodge bullets or survive a nuke.

Sometimes, you people are a trip.
Sometimes, you people are fan-boyish/bias as hell.