Wolverine VS Cyclops

Finally manx,
something we can agree on.
I read the post, it is pretty accurate and it pretty much says what I've been saying.

Not that logan can beat everyone cause I am a fan and even I know that lobo should have merc'ed him, but that he is capable of using his real fighting skills if he wants to.(even though he doesn't use them most of the time.)

Oh, I almost forgot, with everything that I've posted as far as martial-arts+peak human strength+inhuman reflexes+adamantium(super dense)bones, what do you think of his hitting power being around several tons?

Just wanted to know(this was basically the reason I started the other thread.)

You can post it here or post it in the appropriate thread.

Originally posted by jplatinum
Finally manx,
something we can agree on.
I read the post, it is pretty accurate and it pretty much says what I've been saying.

Not that logan can beat everyone cause I am a fan and even I know that lobo should have merc'ed him, but that he is capable of using his real fighting skills if he wants to.(even though he doesn't use them most of the time.)

Oh, I almost forgot, with everything that I've posted as far as martial-arts+peak human strength+inhuman reflexes+adamantium(super dense)bones, what do you think of his hitting power being around several tons?

Just wanted to know(this was basically the reason I started the other thread.)

You can post it here or post it in the appropriate thread.

I don't think Wolverine's hitting power even reaches one ton at all. Not even in the slightest. I'd punching Wolverine's punching power is probably around 1,500 lbs at the most. The adamantium actually doesn't do anything at all to increase his punching strength.

I still think Cyclops wins 9/10 times, however.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I don't think Wolverine's hitting power even reaches one ton at all. Not even in the slightest. I'd punching Wolverine's punching power is probably around 1,500 lbs at the most. The adamantium actually doesn't do anything at all to increase his punching strength.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I still think Cyclops wins 9/10 times, however.

Originally posted by Creshosk
It's a material thing. hitting someone with adamantium would hurt more than hitting them with bone.

Not really. Since bone isn't necessarily "brittle", it might as well be titanium when hitting someone with it.

If you took a baseball bat made of bone and one made of adamantium, and swung them the same way, with the same power at a person, they would both be equally destructive. Neither of them would really outdue the other.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And the other 1/10 is you being generous?

Basically, yes. 😛 (I truly think Cyke wins 10/10).

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I don't think Wolverine's hitting power even reaches one ton at all. Not even in the slightest. I'd punching Wolverine's punching power is probably around 1,500 lbs at the most. The adamantium actually doesn't do anything at all to increase his punching strength.

I still think Cyclops wins 9/10 times, however.

wolverine has built in brass knuckles his punches hurt more than someone with just bone in their skelaton. let someone punch you in the face with just a regular fist with bones and then someone with brass knucks using same stregnth and speed maybe that will knock some sense into you 😛

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Not really. Since bone isn't necessarily "brittle", it might as well be titanium when hitting someone with it.

If you took a baseball bat made of bone and one made of adamantium, and swung them the same way, with the same power at a person, they would both be equally destructive. Neither of them would really outdue the other.

Basically, yes. 😛 (I truly think Cyke wins 10/10).

Then wouldn't anyone be able to either survive being hit by a baseball bat, or kill a person with a regular punch?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Actually the bone might do some damage, but are you saying that people punch with the force at which a baseball bat is swung?

Then wouldn't anyone be able to either survive being hit by a baseball bat, or kill a person with a regular punch?

...It was just an example, man.

I could've used nightstick, quarter staff, etc.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
...It was just an example, man.

I could've used nightstick, quarter staff, etc.

Different materials have different effects, that's all I'm saying, hit someone with a staff made of cotton, Wood, Metal or Brick which is goign to do what?

Give Collosus one of these things and have him fight someone like thing, (who for the scenerio is unarmed) What are the different effects?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Nightsticks can break bones. . . Quarter staffs have less of a chance, and that's assuming a regular untrained joe . . .

Different materials have different effects, that's all I'm saying, hit someone with a staff made of cotton, Wood, Metal or Brick which is goign to do what?

Give Collosus one of these things and have him fight someone like thing, (who for the scenerio is unarmed) What are the different effects?

Okay, you're taking my examples out of context.

I was referring to Wolverine hitting a normal human with a balled-up fist punch. It would really be no different than if he just had regular bones.

Don't worry about it. I'm not really bringing up anything too important, just some opinions.

Not like Wolverine will be punching Cyke anytime soon.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Okay, you're taking my examples out of context.

I was referring to Wolverine hitting a normal human with a balled-up fist punch. It would really be no different than if he just had regular bones.

Don't worry about it. I'm not really bringing up anything too important, just some opinions.

Not like Wolverine will be punching Cyke anytime soon.

True, he'd have to get TO Cyclops to punch him. . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
Nightsticks can break bones. . . Quarter staffs have less of a chance, and that's assuming a regular untrained joe . . .

Different materials have different effects, that's all I'm saying, hit someone with a staff made of cotton, Wood, Metal or Brick which is goign to do what?

Give Collosus one of these things and have him fight someone like thing, (who for the scenerio is unarmed) What are the different effects?

Its leverage, these are all force multipliers by increasing the distance of the swing the speed and force applied at the head is greater, think about golf clubs. I did a huge bit on it in the Brue Lee thread in the GDF I will hunt it up.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Okay, you're taking my examples out of context.

I was referring to Wolverine hitting a normal human with a balled-up fist punch. It would really be no different than if he just had regular bones.

Don't worry about it. I'm not really bringing up anything too important, just some opinions.

Not like Wolverine will be punching Cyke anytime soon.

If his knuckles are unbreakable they will hurt more than someone with just bone. I know bone is strong but not as strong as metal like adimantium

Originally posted by Droopy
If his knuckles are unbreakable they will hurt more than someone with just bone. I know bone is strong but not as strong as metal like adimantium

Originally posted by Juntai
It's more like hitting with brass knuckles... The density of the metal doesnt actually matter, just that it's tougher than bone.

yeah I said that in earlier post about wolverine punching like brass knucks

Originally posted by Droopy
yeah I said that in earlier post about wolverine punching like brass knucks

agreed

Where's Wolverine8888? I wanna hear more of his badly spelled insanely stupid arguments...

Originally posted by Droopy
If his knuckles are unbreakable they will hurt more than someone with just bone. I know bone is strong but not as strong as metal like adimantium

You make it sound as if your knuckles break constantly when hitting someone in the face.

The knuckles might as well be steel when punching somone. Cuz chances are, they won't break. Just like adamantium won't break. Now, if neither break or give in any way at all, just solid and powerful, then they hit with the same strength and cause the same damage.

Does anyone understand what I'm saying.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And he's accurate enough to go through the optic nerve's path.

Simply going through the eye however is not an option however as there is bone (adamantium in Wolvie's case) behind the eye.

sorry, should have made it clearer... at an angle... 😬

but how many times have we seen cyke drop to one knee to steady himself... if he wanted to hit the brain i'd say he'd take that into account...

Originally posted by pr1983
sorry, should have made it clearer... at an angle... 😬

but how many times have we seen cyke drop to one knee to steady himself... if he wanted to hit the brain i'd say he'd take that into account...

Cyclops has the skill to do it. . I remember a comic where I think it was Warbird(Thunderbird II) tried to kill the X-Men in the danger room and Cyclops like 30 or 40 feet away shot the button to open the doors. . .

Dude can shoot the eye out of a dime that was flipped into the air. . .

An eye-sized beam aimed at the eye should rupture it, continue through the aqueous and vitreous humour, impact on the retina, destroy it, continue and some of the force would pass through the supraorbital fissure.