Originally posted by jplatinum
As someone esle stated wolverine killed a simulated version of scot that was just as good as the real one.
Oh, man. JP, come on, man. You're starting to sound like wolverine8888. And no one wants that.
That simulation was crap. If my scanner didn't just break, I'd show you how stupid it was.
If it was just as good as the real thing, why did the X-men THROW themselves on his claws?
Storm didn't hit him with lightning. In fact, she did nothing.
Iceman didn't freeze him.
Jean didn't mind rape him.
Scott DIDN'T FIRE ONE BLAST.
Not very realistic if you ask me.
Originally posted by Creshosk
As I said, the optic nerve. Cyke shoots through that passageway.Since Wolverine can fight blind . . . and has had his entire face blown off. . .
Naw, he can fight blind.
Just right up the optic nerves pathway. . .
I know he can fight blind, Cresh. But take the best blind fighter in the world, and he'll still fight much better with vision.
All I'm saying is he will be crippled if he is blind. Even with his other senses, he will be crippled. Enough to allow Cyke to blast the hell out of him.
Hell, he could do that anyway.
Originally posted by MetalmanxIf he can fight blind extremly well why would he be crippled?
I know he can fight blind, Cresh. But take the best blind fighter in the world, and he'll still fight much better with vision.All I'm saying is he will be crippled if he is blind. Even with his other senses, he will be crippled. Enough to allow Cyke to blast the hell out of him.
Originally posted by MetalmanxThat's what I'm saying, Cyclops is like a surgeon with his strikes, he could hit the optic nerve's pathway and go into the brain. But simply taking out the eye wouldn't be enough.
Hell, he could do that anyway.
Originally posted by Creshosk
If he can fight blind extremly well why would he be crippled?That's what I'm saying, Cyclops is like a surgeon with his strikes, he could hit the optic nerve's pathway and go into the brain. But simply taking out the eye wouldn't be enough.
You honestly don't think it would make him stumble? Wince? Hinder him in the slightest?
Com'on, Cresh. Think about what you're saying.
Even if you have an incredible healing factor, if something takes out your eye, you're gonna feel it, and it's gonna mess you up for at least several seconds.
Originally posted by MetalmanxInitially yes, but the way you make it sound its like take out his eye and he'll fall down and cry like a little baby.
You honestly don't think it would make him stumble? Wince? Hinder him in the slightest?
Originally posted by MetalmanxI am. But why would he be crippled?
Com'on, Cresh. Think about what you're saying.
Originally posted by MetalmanxOf course he feels it. But the dude is tough as nails, he got his face blasted completely off and didn't wince.
Even if you have an incredible healing factor, if something takes out your eye, you're gonna feel it, and it's gonna mess you up for at least several seconds.
As I said, pain alone is not a way to take him out.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotIt really shouldn't take any pages, but here ya go. 😑
17 pages? Jeez. Cyclops wins. It shouldn't take 17 pages to figure that out.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotI'm not sure if a barrage is needed. All it takes is that one that goes through the Supraorbital fissure. . but yeah, a barage could work. . provided the first doesn't do the trick. Because that's the thing about barrages. . they're more than one.
However a barrage of optic blast is.
You keep saying that wolverine is a stupid rusher, but why use his real skills against people who he doesn't need to use them against?
He uses them on people like creed who poses a real threat to him.
How the hell can you say that he just rushs into fights and expect that to cover the whole issue of the relevance of the fight itself.
Yeah, he rushs into fights. Whoop-te-doo! You forget that most of the heroes ruch into fights, its what you do in the fight that counts.
I and you've seen many fights where wolverine was fighting like a skilled warrior and not just swinging-his-claws-blindly-like-a-savage or some shit.
You act like thats all he knows.
He is a skilled fighter.
Half of the time, if I were fighting someone who I didn't need to really use much of my skill on(they're not near my level) I'd just move in and hit them 1 time too.
If you say this about wolverine then you have to admit that superman does the same thing.
You talk about superman's superior intellect and such, but hell, he does the same thing.
He flys into a fight head on at the person and tries to punch them and gets bust in his head, on a regular basis.
Just like when his dumbass tried to go head on with doomsday and you see wher that got him the first time.
Oh how about when he did it to mongul, again he got his ass kicked.
You can't just say wolverine is nothing and he can't fight skillfully or use tactics.
You idiot, who the hell you think was giving them x-men tactic and survival training far before your buddy scott came along to take command. Logan, you damn right!
I hear people discrediting him cause he rushes into fight, hell they all do, but its hwat you do in the fight that counts.
If logan is fighting someone who is not on his level and he knows he can take them easily without using any tactics or real skill He should rush in and just slug it out.
Hell, wouldn't you do the same thing if you were fighting someone who you knew you could just knock the **** out.
He uses his real skill when he sees fit, like with creed or spiderman or etc.
If you don't know that by now, then theres' something wrong with your sense of comprehension.
Originally posted by jplatinum
You keep saying that wolverine is a stupid rusher, but why use his real skills against people who he doesn't need to use them against?He uses them on people like creed who poses a real threat to him.
How the hell can you say that he just rushs into fights and expect that to cover the whole issue of the relevance of the fight itself.
Yeah, he rushs into fights. Whoop-te-doo! You forget that most of the heroes ruch into fights, its what you do in the fight that counts.
I and you've seen many fights where wolverine was fighting like a skilled warrior and not just swinging-his-claws-blindly-like-a-savage or some shit.
You act like thats all he knows.
He is a skilled fighter.
Half of the time, if I were fighting someone who I didn't need to really use much of my skill on(they're not near my level) I'd just move in and hit them 1 time too.If you say this about wolverine then you have to admit that superman does the same thing.
You talk about superman's superior intellect and such, but hell, he does the same thing.
He flys into a fight head on at the person and tries to punch them and gets bust in his head, on a regular basis.
Just like when his dumbass tried to go head on with doomsday and you see wher that got him the first time.
Oh how about when he did it to mongul, again he got his ass kicked.
You can't just say wolverine is nothing and he can't fight skillfully or use tactics.
You idiot, who the hell you think was giving them x-men tactic and survival training far before your buddy scott came along to take command. Logan, you damn right!
I hear people discrediting him cause he rushes into fight, hell they all do, but its hwat you do in the fight that counts.
If logan is fighting someone who is not on his level and he knows he can take them easily without using any tactics or real skill He should rush in and just slug it out.
Hell, wouldn't you do the same thing if you were fighting someone who you knew you could just knock the **** out.
He uses his real skill when he sees fit, like with creed or spiderman or etc.
If you don't know that by now, then theres' something wrong with your sense of comprehension.
I'm getting tired of explaining this in every thread.
I like Wolverine. I really do. He's a great character. But I don't like that people just assume because of his healing factor and adamantium skeleton, that he's unbeatable. Many street level heroes can and have beat him.
Hulk should kill him everytime he hits him.
Anyway.
I do agree with you. Superman does do the same thing. You'd think he'd learn after so many years. But all he does is charge his opponent and hope his IMMEASUREABLE amount of strength will help him to succeed.
And even though Wolverine is skilled, he uses it 1% of the time. You can't argue that. He relies too much on his healing factor and unbreakable bones, and you know it to be true.
"You idiot, who the hell you think was giving them x-men tactic and survival training far before your buddy scott came along to take command. Logan, you damn right!"
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Are we reading the same X-men, JP?
To my knowledge, Scott had been the leader of the X-men 10 years before Logan decided to join.
And what's this? Scott's remained the leader. I don't know what the hell you were talking about that. Scott was the one training all the X-men, and even when Logan came Scott was still doing it, just along with Logan.
I'm just curious as to what X-men comics you happen to be reading, with Wolverine as the leader.
* Logan would make a dumb leader, leadership-wise. bear in mind, Logan usually rushes, a reckless rush, always depending on his adamantium claws, skeleton & healing factor... Cyke, on the other hand, is very strict and rarely never lets his guard down.
* the reason Logan is alive until now is because of his powers. try giving Logan Cyke's powers, combine it with his reckless attitude, he'll be dead before even turning one page of a comic...
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I know he can fight blind, Cresh. But take the best blind fighter in the world, and he'll still fight much better with vision.All I'm saying is he will be crippled if he is blind. Even with his other senses, he will be crippled. Enough to allow Cyke to blast the hell out of him.
Hell, he could do that anyway.
Wolverine getting shot in the eye is a if it is like when people say if wolverine stabs him he is done might or might not happen
Originally posted by willRulesYup, Scott can hit the fissue. of course he'd have to aim a bit more than just making eye contact.
So you agree Scott could win despite this?
Originally posted by DroopyIt's much more likely to happen than Wolverine just up and gutting Scott, seriously.
Wolverine getting shot in the eye is a if it is like when people say if wolverine stabs him he is done might or might not happen
Scot has range and can make the attempt many more times long before Wolverine gets close, and then Scott can blast Wolverine backwards anyway. . .