Wolverine VS Cyclops

Originally posted by capt it up
rember what happen after he hit the sentinel? ya he nearly passed out and was unable to stand

That's because he was punched hard by that Sentinel prior in doing so and his blood was gushing out from his head

Originally posted by capt it up
rember what happen after he hit the sentinel? ya he nearly passed out and was unable to stand

* that's poor story-writing... besides, Logan is no Sentinel... 😛

That should actually be a durability feat for Scott. It's a miracle he was able to survive that. I'd imagine others quickly dying from getting smacked by that Sentinel 😛

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
That's because he was punched hard by that Sentinel prior in doing so and his blood was gushing out from his head

Originally posted by capt it up
dude he got hit by the sentinal and was pritty mcuh fine till he goes lets end this and as soon as he shoots the blast he can barly stay awake it was from shooting the blast.

His blood was gushing out of his forehead and was trying to keep himself conscious as possible. That is also supported by the fact that there is no other incident in the past that shooting his beams drains him and fatigues him in anyway other than eye strain.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
His blood was gushing out of his forehead and was trying to keep himself conscious as possible. That is also supported by the fact that there is no other incident in the past that shooting his beams drains him and fatigues him in anyway other than eye strain.

Originally posted by capt it up
actauly when he fought his brother he waisted all his energy and was unable to keep firing if I rmeber correctly

Yes, and that's before the retcon on his powersource. Before his power depends on his energy reserves from being a solar battery. Nowadays, not.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Yes, and that's before the retcon on his powersource. Before his power depends on his energy reserves from being a solar battery. Nowadays, not.

It's been ret-conned from the handbooks. I dunno the reasons for the change though and i'm not very comfortable with it either(for the reasons Scott has a semi-bishop like absorbing ability back then). That's probably the reason why the sun battery hasn't been mentioned for some time.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
It's been ret-conned from the handbooks.

Originally posted by capt it up
lol. u do know the hand book up dates still aply to early comic too. so scot does has a limit and has reached it before. unless the hand book states that he has revolved from having to store energy to having unlimited suply which it does not.

no it doesn't. That's the reason why you don't see people like Namor using his telepathy anymore because it's been so long ago and been retconned to nothingness. The same reason also for beast being depowered with no explanations (used to be very high in strength during his avengers stint)

But maybe I'm not a hundred percent right here...let's see... Provide me scans of Scott's power being mentioned to be still sun-based in comics and i'd probably evaluate it further.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
no it doesn't. That's the reason why you don't see people like Namor using his telepathy anymore because it's been so long ago and been retconned to nothingness.

But maybe I'm wrong...let's see... Provide me scans of Scott's power being mentioned to be still sun-based and i'd probably evaluate it further.

Originally posted by capt it up
nope unless it says it evolved to be like that ur prove is void becuase comci evidence suports that he losses energya nd just ebcuase the ahnd book switch to they called it does not mean he switch to having ulimtated energy.

What comic evidence? I don't see anything.

x-factor 60. scot clearly states he using the energy his brother gives off

Originally posted by capt it up
x-factor 60. scot clearly states he using the energy his brother gives off

X-factor 60 is from the time before the retcon was made...

so how is it valid here?

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
X-factor 60 is from the time before the retcon was made...

so how is it valid here?

Cyclops once more for the win.

Originally posted by capt it up
whenw as the re-connect ever said in comic? and when was it ever explain how it cwitched over?

It's retcon btw not reconnect. It's stated on TOHOTMU.

Cyclops possesses the mutant ability to project a beam of concussive, ruby-colored force from his eyes. Cyclops's eyes are no longer the complex organic jelly that utilizes the visible spectrum of light to see the world around it. Instead, they are inter-dimensional apertures between this universe and another, non-Einsteinium universe, where physical laws as we know them do not pertain. This non-Einsteinium universe is filled with particles that resemble photons, yet they interact with this universe's particles by transferring kinetic energy in the form of gravitons (the particle of gravitation). These particles generate great, directional concussive force when they interact with the objects of this universe.

Cyclops's mind has a particular psionic field that is attuned to the forces that maintain the apertures that have taken the place of his eyes. Because his mind's psionic field envelops his body, it automatically shunts the other-dimensional particles back into their point of origin when they collide with his body. Thus, his body is protected from the effects of the particles, and even the thin membrane of his eyelids is sufficient to block the emission of energy. The synthetic ruby quartz crystal used to fashion the lenses of Cyclops's eyeglasses and visor is resonant to his minds' psionic field and is similarly protected.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
It's retcon no reconnect. It's stated on TOHOTMU.

i go with wolverine simply because his comic was good a little while ago.....i wish he'd get millar back....