* dodge? what, Logan's gonna dodge all day? (very funny imagining Logan jumping all day long) and how the heck can Logan dodge the blasts? is Logan's reflexes faster than Cyke can fire optic blasts? don't tell us Logan won't get hit, he surely will, and once Logan's been hit, all Cyke's gotta do is blast Logan to smithereens, Logan's internal organs are not adamantium, ya know... 😉
Originally posted by capt it up
ya leaving him with no energy and it quite likly logan will still be awake since it just gunna send logan back becuase it like logan being hit with a punch such as 100 tonner would give.also how many times has scot done that? why when scot does some thing once it ok not PIS? why is that with in scot ability to do?
Originally posted by peejayd
* dodge? what, Logan's gonna dodge all day? (very funny imagining Logan jumping all day long) and how the heck can Logan dodge the blasts? is Logan's reflexes faster than Cyke can fire optic blasts? don't tell us Logan won't get hit, he surely will, and once Logan's been hit, all Cyke's gotta do is blast Logan to smithereens, Logan's internal organs are not adamantium, ya know... 😉
you would be surprised at what wolverine can do, X-Men vol. 2 #5 he fought Omega Red for over 18 hours, while being exposed to his death spores, so wolverine can dodge all day, but cyclops would eventually get worn out after an hr max.
Second you say wolverine's organs aren't adamantium. Correct but in the civil war series, nitro burned wolverienes down to his skeleton, organs and evrything were burned down as well, but few mins later wolverine was back and served nitro a proper ass kickin.
Oh and dont bother responding, cuz i kno ure answer is gona be its "PIS" or Bad Writitng.
Originally posted by jasonk3
you would be surprised at what wolverine can do, X-Men vol. 2 #5 he fought Omega Red for over 18 hours, while being exposed to his death spores, so wolverine can dodge all day, but cyclops would eventually get worn out after an hr max.Second you say wolverine's organs aren't adamantium. Correct but in the civil war series, nitro burned wolverienes down to his skeleton, organs and evrything were burned down as well, but few mins later wolverine was back and served nitro a proper ass kickin.
Oh and dont bother responding, cuz i kno ure answer is gona be its "PIS" or Bad Writitng.
That is utterly correct. It is PIS. Read the defn of PIS yourself and you will see why. Thus it can't be used as evidence on this forum.
Sorry!
Marvel (the guys who write Logan) says that if he loses a vital organ or sufficient blood then he will die.
Originally posted by bigbran
In the forums, we take the character, and his abilities.
If we go by your logic, then there is practically no battles in this forum.
"Cyke wouldn't do that to Logan"
Deadpool wouldn't kill Daredevil, but it is within his powers to do so. (and showings)
What are you talking about? Go read the forum rules champ, all fights are IN CHARACTER. It's out of character for Cyclops cut lose with a blast like that on a living being, much less a friend.
Deadpool is a former soldier and mercenary with no moral qualms about killing so your point makes no sense (but whats new?). DP will kill if he has to because its in character, DD wont because it's out of character. Did you fallow that?
Originally posted by capt it up
did not logan dodge dodge all of scot blast effortlessly in a similar field of battle
If Cyclops was only going to fire short burts of energy Wolverine would likely dodge them all however in a situation like this he is able to use a sustained, contious blast. Wolverine may dodge the initial part of Cyclop's attack but after that Scott only needs get Wolverine in his sights.
capt it up: i really don't mind that you have our own belief that Wolverine would beat Cyclops in this fight. Just as i hope you don't mind that i have a belief that Cyclops would beat Wolverine.
However.....i've read this quite a few times from you, so let's get something clear:
When Cyke blasted the Sentinel away in Astonishing #8, it WASN'T the effort of the blast that tired him out. I'm not even sure where you got the idea that he was about to pass out anyway.
Looking at the panel, it never stated he was going to faint. What it actually showed was Cyke putting his visor back on and Wolverine and Colossus looking surprised. Logan makes a comment somewhere along the lines that "Every now and again you remind me why you're boss". Or something like that.
Cyke has blood dripping from his nose. Wanna know why? It's not because he was strained from the blast.....it's because he got HIT BY A SENTINEL BACKHAND a few panels before. So for him to survive that AND THEN pull off a blast like that, AND THEN NOT pass out (at least by my reckoning, when someone passes out they lose consciousness....and unconscious people don't put their visors back on) - i would say Cyclops is pretty resilient. Or maybe you disagree.
Cyclops rarely gets tired from blasting all out nowadays. If you would be kind enough to agree with me on this Astonishing issue (and you don't have to), then please tell me the last time it was stated in the comics that he gets tired from blasting for a long time. Because at least from my memory, the last time i read him getting tired was back before the 80s....in an UXM annual where the team fight with Arkon (and Scott gets recharged by Storm's lightning). Please correct me if there is a more recent example of him getting tired.
And one more thing - when was the last time Scott went all out before the Astonishing issue? Probably against Onslaught. And guess what? He DIDN'T get tired out by that either.
Originally posted by Accel
Why would it be PIS? Cyclops never blasts that way most of the time because he's afraid of using his powers. That showing just shows how powerful he can be when he means it.
remeber civil war? logan healed from his skeleton the same arguement could be used that lgoans never had the oportunity before how ever both event shoudl be PIS
Originally posted by capt it up
ya another word for PIS.remeber civil war? logan healed from his skeleton the same arguement could be used that lgoans never had the oportunity before how ever both event shoudl be PIS
It's not the same as Cyclops's situation and you really should be aware of that.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What are you talking about? Go read the forum rules champ, all fights are IN CHARACTER. It's out of character for Cyclops cut lose with a blast like that on a living being, much less a friend.Deadpool is a former soldier and mercenary with no moral qualms about killing so your point makes no sense (but whats new?). DP will kill if he has to because its in character, DD wont because it's out of character. Did you fallow that?
Originally posted by Accel
Answer me this. Does it make sense to you that Wolverine essentially healed from NOTHING in that recent scenario?It's not the same as Cyclops's situation and you really should be aware of that.
The writers said in an interview that Wolverine's brain was still intact inside his skull... it still doesn't make sense but at least it wasn't nothing. 🙁
Originally posted by Accel
The forum rules state they fight to the best of their abilities and within their personalities. Cyke blasting a wide spread optic blast is well within the best of abilities and his persoanlity, especially since he's going to have to take Wolverine down here and he knows about Logan's healing factor and ruthlessness.
No. It is in with in the best of his abilities but not his personality.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The writers said in an interview that Wolverine's brain was still intact inside his skull... it still doesn't make sense but at least it wasn't nothing. 🙁
Originally posted by Accel
Eh, I recall the writer trying to justify it by comparing it to that time Wolverine healed from a drop of blood or something like that.
I remember he said he wasn't sure why people where so made since Wolverine has done similar things before and I think he listed the blood drop thing. Anyway are going to find out how his healing factor works in Wolverine 49 and in MCP in '07.
Originally posted by Accel
What, blasting Wolverine with his optic blasts? He's done so multiple times in the past. It's the wide-spread blast part that plays within the best of his abilities.
Scott's blasts vary in both power and intensity and there is a difference between hitting Wolverine with a simple blast and removing his visor and hitting him with his full force blast. Cyclops doesn't even use his full power blast against villians except in extreme situations... and you want to tell me it is in character for him to use it on his friend and team mate?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Scott's blasts vary in both power and intensity and there is a difference between hitting Wolverine with a simple blast and removing his visor and hitting him with his full force blast. Cyclops doesn't even use his full power blast against villians except in extreme situations... and you want to tell me it is in character for him to use it on his friend and team mate?