Originally posted by Accel
In a fight where he absolutely has to go all out to win or get sliced and diced? Yes it is. Doesn't mean he has to like it.
The x-men have fought much deadlier foes then Wolverine and how many times has Cyclops cut lose with a blast like that? Half a dozen times? Every time the x-men get into a fight their enemies are willing to kill them buy Scott doesn't take off his visor and clear the field.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The x-men have fought much deadlier foes then Wolverine and how many times has Cyclops cut lose with a blast like that? Half a dozen times? Every time the x-men get into a fight their enemies are willing to kill them buy Scott doesn't take off his visor and clear the field.
We know Cyclops can do it. There's nothing to stop him from doing it here.
Originally posted by Accel
That's not within the best of his abilities then. It's no different from Flash failing to use any of his SpeedForce tricks on his rogues or Thor failing to use his versatility on the Avengers foes he faces.We know Cyclops can do it. There's nothing to stop him from doing it here.
No it is more like Spider-man pulling his punches, a concious decision made by the character. In is out of character for Cyclops to run around blasting people with his full power blasts so unless the thread creater turns CIS off he wont be.
It's been stated that the reason why he doesn't cut loose with his powers in the first place is because he's afraid of people getting hurt.
Here, he has to choose which bothers him more, going all-out on Wolverine or having three claws in his gut.
In this fight, he doesn't have to worry about hurting innocent people around, so he doesn't have to cut back.
If Wolverine keeps dodging his eyebeams like people say he will, then it's going to occur to him to take off his visor as to shoot a blast that not even Logan can dodge.
We all know Cyclops is a tactical thinker and it's well within his personality to think of this before it's too late. It wasn't out of character for him to use to get the Sentinel off his lawn and it won't be out of character for him to use it on the guy he just can't seem to hit with narrow beams.
Originally posted by peejayd
* dodge? what, Logan's gonna dodge all day? (very funny imagining Logan jumping all day long) and how the heck can Logan dodge the blasts? is Logan's reflexes faster than Cyke can fire optic blasts? don't tell us Logan won't get hit, he surely will, and once Logan's been hit, all Cyke's gotta do is blast Logan to smithereens, Logan's internal organs are not adamantium, ya know... 😉
Cyke's blasts were described as being "capable of pulverizing adamantium".
Does anybody else know this?
Originally posted by jasonk3
you would be surprised at what wolverine can do, X-Men vol. 2 #5 he fought Omega Red for over 18 hours, while being exposed to his death spores, so wolverine can dodge all day, but cyclops would eventually get worn out after an hr max.
* Cyke is a strategist and tactician, he knows his capabilities, durability and stamina... judging by your argument, Cyke would KO Logan before Cyke gets worn out...
* Logan and Omega Red are both capable of enduring long battles, fighting for 18 hours or more is not a surprise...
Originally posted by jasonk3
Second you say wolverine's organs aren't adamantium. Correct but in the civil war series, nitro burned wolverienes down to his skeleton, organs and evrything were burned down as well, but few mins later wolverine was back and served nitro a proper ass kickin.
* Logan was back a few minutes later... what if Cyke decided not to give Logan a few minutes? think about that, okay?
Originally posted by jasonk3
Oh and dont bother responding, cuz i kno ure answer is gona be its "PIS" or Bad Writitng.
* if it's not, what is? 😕
Originally posted by h1a8
That is utterly correct. It is PIS. Read the defn of PIS yourself and you will see why. Thus it can't be used as evidence on this forum.
Sorry!
Marvel (the guys who write Logan) says that if he loses a vital organ or sufficient blood then he will die.
* nice one...
Originally posted by Metalmanx
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Originally posted by Soleran
Yup more then likely Cyclops won't kill Wolverine its not in character for him however he could make it so Wolverine could never touch him and KO him consistently.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yes but he doesn't need to use his wide area super-beam to do either of those... so why would he? He is going to do something out of character for the sake of convenience?
I remember back to days of futures past when wolverine was blasted by.. a sentinel to being only a skeleton...
When Cyclops in Age of Apocalypse blasted off wolverines hand.. and therefore Wolverine had that metal stump.
... And now Emma is working on removing the pschological blocks that have limited Cyclop's power level all these years?
Originally posted by Badabing
This is a bit off topic. The forum rules state the combatants are "bloodlusted". Wouldn't that meaning suggest that they would go to any means necessary for a win or does staying in character trump bloodlust?
It is specified all fights are in character and adhere to the personality of said character in the blurb describing the Bloodlust rule. This means that the are fighting to the best of their abilities with in the parameters of their personality.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It is specified all fights are in character and adhere to the personality of said character in the blurb describing the Bloodlust rule. This means that the are fighting to the best of their abilities with in the parameters of their personality.
[QUOTE=7692159]Originally posted by peejayd
[B]* Cyke is a strategist and tactician, he knows his capabilities, durability and stamina... judging by your argument, Cyke would KO Logan before Cyke gets worn out...
* Logan and Omega Red are both capable of enduring long battles, fighting for 18 hours or more is not a surprise...
yea Cyclops is a good tactician but wolverine is better. For ex in Wolverine vol. 1 #51 Forge noted wolverine's physical and mental state is the "equivalent of an Olympic-level gymnast performing a gold medal routine whilst simultaneously beating four chess computers in his head
* Logan was back a few minutes later... what if Cyke decided not to give Logan a few minutes? think about that, okay?
What do you think cyclops would stand their and constantly blast wolverine's body all day? he doesn't have that much energy u kno. So think about that, Okay?
* if it's not, what is? 😕
Like i said, every time a character does something outside his limits it is overlooked, and there are many comic book characters that do things that are beyond their powers, but for some reason sum ppl start complainin when wolverine does something that seems like it beyond his capibilities.