Silver Surfer vs Thor

Originally posted by DarkOdin
You do realise that Odin did backhand surfer when they fought.

Classic Thor And SS can go either way, If the fighting got to hand to hand Thor wins. If they keep there distances SS wins.
Not b/c one has more power or strength but b/c that is there fighting styles.

Warrior maddness Thor is 10 x times he normal power and doesn't hold back Thor would win.

Current Thor backhands SS like his father did.

The hell are you talking about?

I simply made a comment about how Odin let Surfer help in resurrecting BRB.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
The hell are you talking about?

I simply made a comment about how Odin let Surfer help in resurrecting BRB.

Originally posted by kgkg
1) Surfer was pretty much beaten before that punch as you see him craked up.

Energy and Punches don't have to necessarily destroy planets and solar systems to show how powerful the attacks are.

Heck if you want to look at environmental damage to test how powerful an attacks is :/ Thor has been K.O to no environmental or Minial crack on the ground attacks 🙂

And Silver Surfer has taken Planet destroying shots with no affect whatsoever.

The main point you should consider is who is doing the attack

and i hope you know T and A are near Galactus level.

Those scans should be a Good feat not a bad one

🙂

I gotta agree, colliteral damage should never be a indication of how potent a strike is. Thanos has never hurled a "planet destroying punch" either and the one occasion where he did beat SS with 6 punches he didnt even dent the ground.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
The hell are you talking about?

I simply made a comment about how Odin let Surfer help in resurrecting BRB.

NO you stated

Cosmic Powers unlimited.

Odin allowed Surfer to help him resurrect BRB.

I was commenting on the first hting you said.

Cosmic Powers unlimited.

Odin allowed Surfer to help him resurrect BRB.

Surfer powers are not unlimited.

the commet cosmic powers unlimited is far from true.

It depends on the being uses it.

Surfer is the strougest herald but he is low on the pecking order as ar as power cosmic goes.

Cosmic Powers Unlimited is the name of the story you nub.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
NO you stated

Cosmic Powers unlimited.

Odin allowed Surfer to help him resurrect BRB.

I was commenting on the first hting you said.

[B]Cosmic Powers unlimited.

Odin allowed Surfer to help him resurrect BRB.

Surfer powers are not unlimited.

the commet cosmic powers unlimited is far from true.

It depends on the being uses it.

Surfer is the strougest herald but he is low on the pecking order as ar as power cosmic goes. [/B]

Erm..... cosmic powers unlimited is the name of the comic it happened in.

rofl

Originally posted by DarkOdin
NO you stated

Cosmic Powers unlimited.

Odin allowed Surfer to help him resurrect BRB.

I was commenting on the first hting you said.

[B]Cosmic Powers unlimited.

Odin allowed Surfer to help him resurrect BRB.

Surfer powers are not unlimited.

the commet cosmic powers unlimited is far from true.

It depends on the being uses it.

Surfer is the strougest herald but he is low on the pecking order as ar as power cosmic goes. [/B]

Haha, this guy is too much.

Changed my mind. Thor for the win.

Thor one shots Surfer just like Odin did.

Because you know...Thor's a skyfather now!

bump

I'm back from the other thread and "Really Long Minute Land" lol...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Eh? Thor defeated Ego's manifestation overpowering him and driving him away to the point they reach his brain and Thor takes care of him? That's what happened as I recall. Before that, Ego Prime was giving Thor more trouble.

Things change. Even so....Thor has definitely looked better than FireLord has on at least one or two occasions and they have stalemated on another as I recall.

And if we go down the comparison route it's a slippery slope. Different characters have been portrayed different ways.

Iron Man for example has a pretty solid record against Silver Surfer does he not? You're the expert on Norrin here.

Thor's been temporarily knocked by Air Walker, more than any herald has ever accomplished against Thor, but when pissed off, and realizing he wasn't living Thor easily took him out. Mentality changes a lot of things.

Is it so hard to believe that Thor was simply letting loose, unlike other instances?

And yea, didn't we do this shit once before?

Kinda, but Ego was still specifically noted as being more powerful in that story due to his insanity. That's why Galactus had to go get Thor and Herc(Ego had already beaten him once) to distract him. Also, Thor didn't actually take Ego out. He did drive back Ego's manifestation, but that's only because he was able to disrupt it by using Ego's own weather against him. If he had tried to do the same to Ego Prime when he was trying to take over, it probably would have caused major damage and loss of life so it's understandable that he never used the tactic. Then he DID nail Ego's brain with a blast, but that didn't actually beat him either. The blast did manage to hurt him, but then Ego got all pissed and Galactus teleported the group out because he'd attached the propulsion device to Ego's south pole. Point is, he was more powerful from his insanity.

Thor never really looked better than Firelord though has he? From what I remember all of their fights pretty much ended in stalemates, I don't think Thor has anything resembling a definitive win(I guess I could be wrong about that one though).

You're right they are, but it's not that slippery of a slope to compare Surfer and Firelord in this instance due to the fact that both have fought him at least 3 times and Surfer has shown he's pretty much Firelord+ in every department. I'm not saying that the fights with Firelord prove that Surfer should beat Thor, I'm saying that if Thor has a difficult time with Firelord he shouldn't be KOing Surfer that easily. And why are you going off the era of B&T anyway when Surfer's obviously being written in a better light since Annihilation?

Only during the period in which Surfer was weakened from his confinement on Earth. And both times I'm pretty Surfer dominated until it ended in a double KO from Surfer's own energy.

Airwalker is pretty much the weakest of G's heralds. Not that he has horrible showings or anything, but his functional appearances are few and far between so he doesn't have the feats to back up him being equal to Firelord(let alone Surfer). From what I remember he actually KO'd Thor with his own hammer, and it's not like Firelord has had that option.

Problem is that Thor's most likely been stated as not holding back in other fights(I can't think of a specific instance off the top of my head but it seems like a reasonable assumption given Thor's temper/number of appearances), and he still hasn't pulled off anything like Blood and Thunder. Now if I'm wrong then please correct me but it seems that Thor's not portrayed as that powerful when he goes all out, he's only looked that way when he was in the grips of full blown insanity. That's not to say that he doesn't have high end feats here and there, but there's a big difference between racking up a couple of good feats in a book and being portrayed as all but unstoppable for an entire arc. Unless you think that Grey Hulk breaking the asteroid justifies Hulk taking it to an entire Avengers roster that includes people like Herc.

Probably.

Could go either way. They're peers to each other/

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm back from the other thread and "Really Long Minute Land" lol...

Kinda, but Ego was still specifically noted as being more powerful in that story due to his insanity. That's why Galactus had to go get Thor and Herc(Ego had already beaten him once) to distract him. Also, Thor didn't actually take Ego out. He did drive back Ego's manifestation, but that's only because he was able to disrupt it by using Ego's own weather against him. If he had tried to do the same to Ego Prime when he was trying to take over, it probably would have caused major damage and loss of life so it's understandable that he never used the tactic. Then he DID nail Ego's brain with a blast, but that didn't actually beat him either. The blast did manage to hurt him, but then Ego got all pissed and Galactus teleported the group out because he'd attached the propulsion device to Ego's south pole. Point is, he was more powerful from his insanity.

Thor never really looked better than Firelord though has he? From what I remember all of their fights pretty much ended in stalemates, I don't think Thor has anything resembling a definitive win(I guess I could be wrong about that one though).

You're right they are, but it's not that slippery of a slope to compare Surfer and Firelord in this instance due to the fact that both have fought him at least 3 times and Surfer has shown he's pretty much Firelord+ in every department. I'm not saying that the fights with Firelord prove that Surfer should beat Thor, I'm saying that if Thor has a difficult time with Firelord he shouldn't be KOing Surfer that easily. And why are you going off the era of B&T anyway when Surfer's obviously being written in a better light since Annihilation?

Only during the period in which Surfer was weakened from his confinement on Earth. And both times I'm pretty Surfer dominated until it ended in a double KO from Surfer's own energy.

Airwalker is pretty much the weakest of G's heralds. Not that he has horrible showings or anything, but his functional appearances are few and far between so he doesn't have the feats to back up him being equal to Firelord(let alone Surfer). From what I remember he actually KO'd Thor with his own hammer, and it's not like Firelord has had that option.

Problem is that Thor's most likely been stated as not holding back in other fights(I can't think of a specific instance off the top of my head but it seems like a reasonable assumption given Thor's temper/number of appearances), and he still hasn't pulled off anything like Blood and Thunder. Now if I'm wrong then please correct me but it seems that Thor's not portrayed as that powerful when he goes all out, he's only looked that way when he was in the grips of full blown insanity. That's not to say that he doesn't have high end feats here and there, but there's a big difference between racking up a couple of good feats in a book and being portrayed as all but unstoppable for an entire arc. Unless you think that Grey Hulk breaking the asteroid justifies Hulk taking it to an entire Avengers roster that includes people like Herc.

Probably.

Well Darth, I'm going to take off for a minute too and have a power nap till morning as I have class. But don't worry it'll only be a minute. A minute as in your definition anyways. 🙂

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm back from the other thread and "Really Long Minute Land" lol...

Kinda, but Ego was still specifically noted as being more powerful in that story due to his insanity. That's why Galactus had to go get Thor and Herc(Ego had already beaten him once) to distract him. Also, Thor didn't actually take Ego out. He did drive back Ego's manifestation, but that's only because he was able to disrupt it by using Ego's own weather against him. If he had tried to do the same to Ego Prime when he was trying to take over, it probably would have caused major damage and loss of life so it's understandable that he never used the tactic. Then he DID nail Ego's brain with a blast, but that didn't actually beat him either. The blast did manage to hurt him, but then Ego got all pissed and Galactus teleported the group out because he'd attached the propulsion device to Ego's south pole. Point is, he was more powerful from his insanity.

Thor never really looked better than Firelord though has he? From what I remember all of their fights pretty much ended in stalemates, I don't think Thor has anything resembling a definitive win(I guess I could be wrong about that one though).

You're right they are, but it's not that slippery of a slope to compare Surfer and Firelord in this instance due to the fact that both have fought him at least 3 times and Surfer has shown he's pretty much Firelord+ in every department. I'm not saying that the fights with Firelord prove that Surfer should beat Thor, I'm saying that if Thor has a difficult time with Firelord he shouldn't be KOing Surfer that easily. And why are you going off the era of B&T anyway when Surfer's obviously being written in a better light since Annihilation?

Only during the period in which Surfer was weakened from his confinement on Earth. And both times I'm pretty Surfer dominated until it ended in a double KO from Surfer's own energy.

Airwalker is pretty much the weakest of G's heralds. Not that he has horrible showings or anything, but his functional appearances are few and far between so he doesn't have the feats to back up him being equal to Firelord(let alone Surfer). From what I remember he actually KO'd Thor with his own hammer, and it's not like Firelord has had that option.

Problem is that Thor's most likely been stated as not holding back in other fights(I can't think of a specific instance off the top of my head but it seems like a reasonable assumption given Thor's temper/number of appearances), and he still hasn't pulled off anything like Blood and Thunder. Now if I'm wrong then please correct me but it seems that Thor's not portrayed as that powerful when he goes all out, he's only looked that way when he was in the grips of full blown insanity. That's not to say that he doesn't have high end feats here and there, but there's a big difference between racking up a couple of good feats in a book and being portrayed as all but unstoppable for an entire arc. Unless you think that Grey Hulk breaking the asteroid justifies Hulk taking it to an entire Avengers roster that includes people like Herc.

Probably.

If Firelord ran into a bloodlusted, pissed off Thor like in blood and thunder he'd be crushed and rather easily.

Originally posted by Avlon
Thor one shots Surfer just like Odin did.

Because you know...Thor's a skyfather now!

Thor is not a Skyfather anymore and even at skyfather level he only displayed a tiny fraction of Odin's power.
Odin Force Thor getting beat by Rulk for example

Originally posted by Firestorms
Thor is not a Skyfather anymore and even at skyfather level he only displayed a tiny fraction of Odin's power.
Odin Force Thor getting beat by Rulk for example

pretty sure he was kidding.

Originally posted by Firestorms
Thor is not a Skyfather anymore and even at skyfather level he only displayed a tiny fraction of Odin's power.
Odin Force Thor getting beat by Rulk for example

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Ignorance, heh.

odinforce thor didnt do anything very impressive battlewise

Originally posted by Starscream M
how's that ignorance? its true

odinforce thor didnt do anything very impressive battlewise

So it's pointless 🙂